Bob Carmin Posted March 8, 2008 Posted March 8, 2008 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZZmrrQ5_q1A Quote
Pearly Posted March 8, 2008 Posted March 8, 2008 You are my kind of guy.... I love peanut butter and I cannot sleep at night if I know we do not have peanut butter in the home. Pearly Quote
David Koot Posted March 8, 2008 Posted March 8, 2008 And here I thought pnb wasnt good for a person! Seem to recall EGW counseling to be sparing with peanuts, not as healthy as other nuts. Quote
Stan Posted March 8, 2008 Posted March 8, 2008 any body who claims to love peanut butter, and does not have ADAM's PB on the list... well.. i .. hmm.... EGW said almonds are amount the best nuts, but I believe her principal was to have a variation. Quote If you receive benefit to being here please help out with expenses. https://www.paypal.me/clubadventist Administrator of a few websites like https://adventistdating.com
olger Posted March 8, 2008 Posted March 8, 2008 I believe that peanuts are not a nut. A legume perhaps? Quote "Please don't feed the drama queens.."
Beryl Posted March 8, 2008 Posted March 8, 2008 Correct, Olger, the peanut is a legume. They are better for you roasted -- NOT IN OIL. Place the nuts (legumes) in a single layer on an oven tray, and roast at 170C for about 15-20 minutes, giving it a shake every so often to turn the nuts. When they are just beginning to turn light brown they are done. Enjoy the just as they are -- they are good for you. The oil that is normally used to "roast" (deep fry) nuts is vegetable oil that has been solidified then re-melted, and is therefore full of the bad trans fatty acids which are worse for you than the solid fats. Other nuts that can be roasted by the same method include pecans, cashews, pistachios, almonds. Dry roasting nuts makes their nutrients more available to your system. Beryl Quote "Grace is God doing for us, in us and through us that which He requires of us but which is impossible for us to do in or for ourselves." But He said to me, "My grace is sufficient for you, for my power is made perfect in weakness." 2 Cor. 12:9.
Beryl Posted March 8, 2008 Posted March 8, 2008 Sorry, I forgot to point out that the smaller nuts require a shorter roasting time -- some as little as 6 or 7 minutes. Just keep your eye on them! And enjoy! Beryl Quote "Grace is God doing for us, in us and through us that which He requires of us but which is impossible for us to do in or for ourselves." But He said to me, "My grace is sufficient for you, for my power is made perfect in weakness." 2 Cor. 12:9.
David Koot Posted March 8, 2008 Posted March 8, 2008 EGW said almonds are amount the best nuts, but I believe her principal was to have a variation. True indeed. And to eat sparingly of nuts. As modern nutrition indicates as well. Then WHY did SDA's get so much into the PNB thing? I mean, years ago, one of our colleges was known in the community as "peanut hill." And yes, peanuts are a legume, but most of us still think of them as 'nuts.' I also found it intriguing, a few years back, to note studies which found that SDA men who were vegetarian had a lower incidence of some types of cancer but a high incidence of prostate cancer??? Must be the vege-foods hehehe. Dave Quote
olger Posted March 8, 2008 Posted March 8, 2008 now I'm HUNGRY ! be back later.. Quote "Please don't feed the drama queens.."
David Koot Posted March 8, 2008 Posted March 8, 2008 For example, my cousin, who is a thoracic surgeon, is a lifelong SDA. I lived in their home for awhile, and I can attest that every weekday morning, PNB was a staple of the breakfast diet. The family was vegetarian. Yet, now he has come down with prostate cancer, and his wife died of cancer. Another example: Charles Klatt, who was Ministerial Director in Southern New England, died of prostate cancer. I talked to him while he was in the hospital at LLU. It definitely is a problem! But I wonder if aflatoxins which can occur in PNB could be a cause? Dave Quote
carolaa Posted March 8, 2008 Posted March 8, 2008 The oil that is normally used to "roast" (deep fry) nuts is vegetable oil that has been solidified then re-melted, and is therefore full of the bad trans fatty acids which are worse for you than the solid fats. I've switched over to natural peanut butter. I'm glad it's a lot easier to find these days than it used to be. I've also started eating almonds and cashews almost every day. Quote
aldona Posted March 8, 2008 Posted March 8, 2008 Here in Australia you can get macadamia nut butter. Very expensive at up to $10 for a little 8-ounce jar, but delicious. Great as a treat for special occasions. I've also had cashew nut butter and "ABC" spread (almonds, brazil nuts and cashews). One of my all-time favorites is tahini (sesame seed paste) on rye bread with honey. Mmmmmm delicious. aldona Quote www.asrc.org.au (Asylum Seeker Resource Centre, Melbourne)Helping over 2000 refugees & asylum seekers each monthIMSLP/Petrucci Music LibraryThe Public Domain Music Score Library - Free Sheet Music DownloadsLooking for classical sheet music? Try IMSLP first!
Amelia Posted March 8, 2008 Posted March 8, 2008 OK, what about the fats in all these nut butters? I know that the fat in almonds is supposed to be "good" fat. But cashew and macadamias I don't know about. And seed fats? Quote <p><span style="color:#0000FF;"><span style="font-weight:bold;"><span style="font-style:italic;">"Do not use harmful words, but only helpful words, the kind that build up and provide what is needed, so that what you say will do good to those who hear you."</span></span> Eph 4:29</span><br><br><img src="http://banners.wunderground.com/weathersticker/gizmotimetemp_both/US/OR/Fairview.gif" alt="Fairview.gif"> Fairview Or</p>
Dr. Shane Posted March 8, 2008 Posted March 8, 2008 If peanuts are actually legumes, that would mean they are in the same category as beans. I have yet to see any hard research that suggests they are unhealthy. "Recent research has identified the amount of beta-sitosterol (SIT) in peanuts and peanut products. SIT is the most widely found phytosterol in foods and new research shows it may help protect against colon, breast and prostate cancer. Researchers at the State University of New York in Buffalo examined the SIT content of several peanut products. They found that snack peanuts contain about 65mg SIT per 100 gms, while peanut oil contains about 190mg per 100 gm, making it a good source of SIT as well. In fact, refined (or pure) peanut oil contains about 38% more protective SIT than refined olive oil. Dr Atif Awad, co-investigator of the study and professor of nutrition at the State University of New York at Buffalo, said 'studies from our laboratory and others suggest that plant sterol consumption offers protection from colon, breast and prostate cancer. Therefore, identifying popular foods such as peanuts, peanut oil, peanut butter and peanut flour as good sources of SIT may provide major health benefits for many people.'" I do understand we shouldn't eat more than two tablespoons in one meal. Although the fat is good. Too much fat of any kind will cause weight problems. Quote Pastoral Family Counselor... Find me at www.PostumCafe.com Author of Peculiar Christianity
carolaa Posted March 9, 2008 Posted March 9, 2008 So it's not the peanuts that are giving SDAs so much prostate cancer. It must be all the chemicals in the highly processed vege-meats. Quote
carolaa Posted March 9, 2008 Posted March 9, 2008 OK, what about the fats in all these nut butters? I know that the fat in almonds is supposed to be "good" fat. But cashew and macadamias I don't know about. And seed fats? I'm pretty sure that fats from plant foods are all the good kind. The only questionable one I've heard about is possibly coconut. Quote
Windsor Posted March 9, 2008 Posted March 9, 2008 "A clinical study with walnuts, recently conducted by researchers led by Dr. Joan Sabaté, one of the co-investigators in The Adventist Health Study, found that replacing a proportion of other fatty foods in one's diet with walnuts may help to reduce serum cholesterol in a significant way. His findings were published in the New England Journal of Medicine on March 4, 1993. The study received extensive national and international press coverage." Quote Remember Adventists Online?
David Koot Posted March 9, 2008 Posted March 9, 2008 So it's not the peanuts that are giving SDAs so much prostate cancer. It must be all the chemicals in the highly processed vege-meats. You have a VERY good point. And THAT is why I usually stay away from the stuff. But it is a staple of the SDA diet. (Sorry, Stan!) Quote
Dr. Shane Posted March 9, 2008 Posted March 9, 2008 Rice and beans are the staples in our diets. For breakfast we eat mostly oatmeal, whole grain pancakes or fiber-rich dry cereal like shredded wheat or raisin bran. Quote Pastoral Family Counselor... Find me at www.PostumCafe.com Author of Peculiar Christianity
Amelia Posted March 9, 2008 Posted March 9, 2008 I only eat 3 brands of cereal. In addition to oatmeal I eat and Quote <p><span style="color:#0000FF;"><span style="font-weight:bold;"><span style="font-style:italic;">"Do not use harmful words, but only helpful words, the kind that build up and provide what is needed, so that what you say will do good to those who hear you."</span></span> Eph 4:29</span><br><br><img src="http://banners.wunderground.com/weathersticker/gizmotimetemp_both/US/OR/Fairview.gif" alt="Fairview.gif"> Fairview Or</p>
David Koot Posted March 9, 2008 Posted March 9, 2008 Well, yeah, those cereals are better than Lucky Charms. But KIM that sweetener added, such as sugar, is not a good thing. Better to cut up fresh or dried fruit as topping, plus walnuts etc, coconut, dates, wheat germ, torumel yeast, good stuff like that. Add rice milk, soy or almond milk, hazelnut milk has a good taste I think. Dave Quote
Amelia Posted March 9, 2008 Posted March 9, 2008 The Kashi has only 7g sugar per serving and the puffins only 5g sugar per serving. 1/4th cup(suggested serving) chopped dates has 28g sugar. 1 whole date has 5.5g sugar. Quote <p><span style="color:#0000FF;"><span style="font-weight:bold;"><span style="font-style:italic;">"Do not use harmful words, but only helpful words, the kind that build up and provide what is needed, so that what you say will do good to those who hear you."</span></span> Eph 4:29</span><br><br><img src="http://banners.wunderground.com/weathersticker/gizmotimetemp_both/US/OR/Fairview.gif" alt="Fairview.gif"> Fairview Or</p>
Neil D Posted March 9, 2008 Posted March 9, 2008 I also found it intriguing, a few years back, to note studies which found that SDA men who were vegetarian had a lower incidence of some types of cancer but a high incidence of prostate cancer??? Must be the vege-foods hehehe. Dave As I recall, there is a link, a rather direct one as I recall, between milk and prostate cancer...The more milk you drink, the higher the incidence to it... Adventist Health Study is where I think it came from... and no, I don't recall a direct link to Prostate Cancer and PNB.... with the exception that you have to eat an awful amount every day...and then you would get cancer of some sort....but it was an awful large amount of PNB. Maybe we can get Suzanne Sutton up here and she could tell us... Quote Democracy is a device that ensures we shall be governed no better than we deserve. George Bernard Shaw
Dr. Shane Posted March 9, 2008 Posted March 9, 2008 I think Kashi is a pretty good brand. I am not familiar with the other one. Not all sugars are equal. Refined sugar cane, sugar beets and honey are the best BUT in small quantities. High fructose corn syrup is the worse. Sugars contained in fruit are in another class because they are not refined and come integral with fiber and nutrients. Quote Pastoral Family Counselor... Find me at www.PostumCafe.com Author of Peculiar Christianity
Neil D Posted March 9, 2008 Posted March 9, 2008 Quote: Not all sugars are equal. Refined sugar cane, sugar beets and honey are the best BUT in small quantities. High fructose corn syrup is the worse. Sugars contained in fruit are in another class because they are not refined and come integral with fiber and nutrients. Sucrose (common name: table sugar, also called saccharose) is a disaccharide (glucose + fructose). It is best known for its role in human nutrition and is formed by plants but not by other organisms such as animals. Like other carbohydrates, sucrose has a hydrogen to oxygen ratio of 2:1. It consists of two monosaccharides, α-glucose and fructose, joined by a glycosidic bond Biochemists regard sugars as relatively simple carbohydrates. Sugars include monosaccharides, disaccharides, trisaccharides and the oligosaccharides - containing 1, 2, 3, and 4 or more monosaccharide units respectively. Monosaccharides include fructose, glucose, galactose and mannose. Disaccharides occur most commonly as sucrose (cane or beet sugar - made from one glucose and one fructose), lactose (milk sugar - made from one glucose and one galactose) and maltose (made of two glucoses). High-fructose corn syrup (HFCS) is any of a group of corn syrups which have undergone enzymatic processing in order to increase their fructose content and are then mixed with pure corn syrup (100% glucose) to reach their final form. The typical types of HFCS are: HFCS 90 (used almost exclusively in the production of HFCS 55) which is approximately 90% fructose and 10% glucose; HFCS 55 (most commonly used in soft drinks) which is approximately 55% fructose and 45% glucose; and HFCS 42 (used in other a variety of other foods, including baked goods) which is approximately 42% fructose and 58% glucose.[1] Honey is a mixture of sugars and other compounds. With respect to carbohydrates, honey is mainly fructose (about 38.5%) and glucose (about 31.0%)[3], making it similar to the synthetically produced inverted sugar syrup which is approximately 47% fructose, 47% glucose and 5% sucrose. Honey's remaining carbohydrates include maltose, sucrose, and other complex carbohydrates[3]. Honey contains trace amounts of several vitamins and minerals[15]. As with all nutritive sweeteners, honey is mostly sugars and is not a significant source of vitamins or minerals[16]. Quote Democracy is a device that ensures we shall be governed no better than we deserve. George Bernard Shaw
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