Stupid White People

[Dr. Shane]

Hillary Clinton is making the case that she would be better to defeat John McCain in the general election because more white people without a high school diploma are voting for her. Basically she is saying that she is getting the stupid-white-guy* vote and since there are a lot of stupid white people out there, Obama can't win without their votes.

Here is a good example.

Democratic country keeps its distance from Obama

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Like most people in Mingo County, West Virginia, Leonard Simpson is a lifelong Democrat. But given a choice between Barack Obama and John McCain in November, the 67-year-old retired coalminer would vote Republican.

“I heard that Obama is a Muslim and his wife’s an atheist,” said Mr Simpson, drawing on a cigarette outside the fire station in Williamson, a coalmining town of 3,400 people surrounded by lush wooded hillsides.

Mr Simpson’s remarks help explain why Mr Obama is trailing Hillary Clinton, his Democratic rival, by 40 percentage points ahead of Tuesday’s primary election in the heavily white and rural state, according to recent opinion polls...

West Virginia is hostile territory for Mr Obama because it has few of the African-Americans and affluent, college-educated whites who provide his strongest support.

*(I am not saying all white people without a high school diploma are stupid - some are self-educated and quite successful, but as a general rule there is a reason they dropped out of high school)

[Amelia]

Now there's something to boast about.

[Dr. Shane]

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“I heard that Obama is a Muslim and his wife’s an atheist,”

You mean you haven't heard of his pastor Reverend Wright who married him (to his wife) and baptized both of their children? Where do these people come from?

[Amelia]

Maybe there is a group of people who only get their news from the covers of the rags mags on the racks in checkout lines?

[Tom Wetmore]

... or only from Fox Noise, Comedian Rush Limbaugh, etc...

[jasd]

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Hillary Clinton is making the case ... because more white people without a high school diploma are voting for her. Basically she is saying that she is getting the stupid-white-guy* vote and since there are a lot of stupid white people out there,

>>”...by 40 percentage points ahead of Tuesday’s primary election in the heavily white and rural state, according to recent opinion polls...”<<

Asterisk notwiststanding,

what might the immediately above say of the fact that Clinton trails ‘bama by approx 90% of the Black vote – everywhere? that they are more educated? less stupid? more mainline? less dissonant? less inbred, ...than Stupid White People?

Say WHAT!? --Pogo

Sheesh! sometimes, you seem to be drawn to the (umm) most amazing sort of thing; y’know, like, tabloidism on steroids

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Stupid White People

Sheesh! I found the above agitprop only in your text – not that dragged-and-dropped.

Too many of our citizens are today emerging from our centers of ‘higher’ learning indoctrinated in masochism.

[Dr. Shane]

I tend to doubt the uneducated, white, Democrats are getting their news from FOXNews or Rush Limbaugh. More likely they are getting it from their union hall, local bar stool or church pulpit.

"Stupid White People" is just saying it without political correctness. It is the elephant in the living room. It is what everyone is thinking but no one dares to say.

Stupid may not be the best word to use. The word "simple" is probably most accurate. These are people who probably have never read the US Constitution, don't know the role of the Federal Reserve, don't understand the difference between the UN and NATO or realize that Mexico buys as many US made products as the US buys Mexican made products. They are simple. They don't grasp the issues. Perhaps not because they can't grasp them but because they don't want to. They would rather worry about which teams are headed to the playoffs than whether or not the market is a bull or a bear. They are more concerned about what they can barbecue on Sunday than who is going to be on Meet The Press. So it is better to say they are simple, rather than stupid.

That said, these are the folks voting for Hillary. They are the ones that don't grasp the issues either because they can't or are more concerned about other things. Either way, it doesn't say a lot for Hillary.

[Kountzer]

I heard a talking head on one of the Sunday morning political shows say that Hillary has forgotten that Bill won the nomination back in '92 without garnering much of the same type of white vote.

[Bravus]

Do you think it's a reasonable generalisation to say that Hillary is winning states in the primaries that are much more likely to go to a Republican than a Democrat in the general, whereas Barack (I try to use either both first names or both last names) is winning the seats that are likely to go blue, plus some that need to move?

[Dr. Shane]

Hillary won Pennsylvania and Ohio and Barrak will need to win those states in the general election. However, the contests have been among Democrats for the most part. So to say Barrack can't win a state in the general because he didn't win it in the primary isn't really true. If more Democrats come out to vote in Ohio than Republicans, Barrack could win Ohio in November.

[D. Allan]

*(I am not saying all white people without a high school diploma are stupid - some are self-educated and quite successful, but as a general rule there is a reason they dropped out of high school)

Like Thomas Edison?

Stupid people remain stupid, even after graduation.

[Dr. Shane]

Wasn't Edison actually kicked out of school because they didn't believe he could learn and his mother home-schooled him? Anyway, like I said, "simple" white people would probably be a better discription than "stupid" white people but the word "stupid" is sure to draw more hits.

[cricket]

Shane, Shane, Shane. Obama's first name is spelled "Barack" not "Barrak". Also, the word "stupid" is only used by those whom the descriptor fits.

[jasd]

>>More likely they are getting it from their union hall, local bar stool or church pulpit.<<

“More likely...,” eh? More subjective than substantive, eh? And how much of a negative is that – considering the slant of news regurgitated by the mainstream media?

>>"Stupid White People" is just saying it without political correctness.<<

Okay, though I reject the premise of your précis – I accept the above “Stupid White People” as your intended slug line.

You've made it yours; you own it.

>>It is the elephant in the living room. It is what everyone is thinking but no one dares to say.<<

Sez who? talking/bobble heads taking their cues from soundbytes du jour? Please, don’t tell me..., it’s the Major Media, yes? Schmelephant.

>>These are people who probably have never read the US Constitution, don't know the role of the Federal Reserve, don't understand the difference between the UN and NATO...<<

...or don’t know the historical association between the USS Maine and the Lusitania? or what amendment in the Bill of Rights is most closely tied to the Magna Carta? or have no idea what derivatives are? or...

>>...or realize that Mexico buys as many US made products as the US buys Mexican made products.<<

...or that those multiplied billions of dollar-remittances sent home by Mexican migrants constitute Mexico’s largest source of foreign revenue (that giant sucking sound is the elephant in the room) other than from PEMEX, its Petroleum Industry? or that in the last general election – more than 300,000 ‘undocumented Hispanics’ in California – voted? or...

>>They are simple. They don't grasp the issues. Perhaps not because they can't grasp them but because they don't want to.<<

Good grief, ‘bama’s issues are basically “Hope”, “Change”, and the “Urgency of now” – with his wife’s being “Misery in America” (can we all say BitterClinger?). A retired, stupid, white, coal miner enjoying his smokes in W.VA – can easily “grasp” those issues – and rightfully, reject them - ABC, NBC, CBS, CNN et al, notwithstanding.

>>They would rather worry about which teams are headed to the playoffs than whether or not the market is a bull or a bear.<<

Like..., What? do you suggest that they don’t service car payments or home mortgages, or are not concerned about family and future, or aren’t conscientious about simply putting food on the table? They pay their taxes, take care of their families, go to church – Hooah! that’s flyover country.

>>They are more concerned about what they can barbecue on Sunday than who is going to be on Meet The Press.<<

And, who can’t relate to that? (so, who was it on Meet The Press today - who thought Russert's pop was deceased? McAuliffe, was it not? former DNC Chairman... bummer)

>>That said, these are the folks voting for Hillary. They are the ones that don't grasp the issues either because they can't or are more concerned about other things.<<

ORLY? there’s not just a bit of the pejorative in that generous opinion?

>>Either way, it doesn't say a lot for Hillary.<<

Okaaayyyy........ Sez Shane

Quite constructive.

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“I heard that Obama is a Muslim and his wife’s an atheist,”

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You mean you haven't heard of his pastor Reverend Wright who married him (to his wife) and baptized both of their children?

Dare I surmise that you’ve also heard the urban legend?

>>Where do these people come from?<<

Same place?

[Dr. Shane]

Exit polls have clearly shown that simple white folks are supporting Hillary and the higher educated white folks are supporting Barack.

I don't think it is a matter of simple folks not being able to grasp the issues but rather they choose not to. They have other priorities. Perhaps better than those us more educated folks have. Who is to say? Nonetheless, these are the folks voting for Hillary.

[jasd]

>>Exit polls have clearly shown that simple white folks are supporting Hillary and the higher educated white folks are supporting Barack.<< [ed.jasd]

Doesn't speak well for our educational system, does it? I mean,

c'mon, 'bama has had, What? two years involvement in Nat'l Politics - and a bunch of years of Chicago politics. So, aside from the numinous sloganeering of "Hope", "Change", and the "Urgency of now" – it appears he has nothing to offer John and Jane Q BitterClinger other than Chicago politics – taken national.

Yikes, have mercy! --Pogo

One sincerely wishes that the fey and effete had as much good sense as those ‘cretinous Whites’ of coal country USofA.

>>...us more educated folks have.<<

Ain it spelt – egicated?

Us? Hopefully, the “us” is clique-claque-speak eliminating myself: I’m just a good ol’ boy.

(anyways, ...just bustin' yore chops)

[Neil D]

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>>Exit polls have clearly shown that simple white folks are supporting Hillary and the higher educated white folks are supporting Barack.<< [ed.jasd]

Doesn't speak well for our educational system, does it? I mean,

Ah, a credit to "no child left behind". Let's see, that was implimented 8 years ago by a GW Bush, right?

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c'mon, 'bama has had, What? two years involvement in Nat'l Politics - and a bunch of years of Chicago politics. So, aside from the numinous sloganeering of "Hope", "Change", and the "Urgency of now" – it appears he has nothing to offer John and Jane Q BitterClinger other than Chicago politics – taken national.

Hmmmm...so let me get this straight...People are flocking to him because he offers hope, change, and a way to unite the people of the US...as opposed to the last 16-20 years with decisive and polarizing politics where by ones politics is determined by a bumper sticker. Hmmmm....not very intelligent politicing those bumper stickers..

And you oppose his patient explainations of his opponets rhetoric? You don't like when he lectures/teaches what needs to be done and why? You don't like it when he foregoes the Lobbist and industrializm liberal spending to keep thier politician in thier pockets and panders to the middle class? Hmmmmmmm......You appears to not like when favorable politics come to your door step. Do you?

[Bravus]

20% of West Virginia voters stated in exit polls that race played a role in their votes

[Dr. Shane]

I still have not decided who I am going to vote for in the Fall. I do believe Hillary is more qualified than Obama but I also believe the character matters. I trust Obama more than I trust Hillary and that is why I voted for him in the Primary and Texas caucus. At this point, I trust Obama more than I trust McCain but only slightly. Many white racists don't trust black people so it makes sense they wouldn't vote for Obama.

[jasd]

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Doesn't speak well for our educational system, does it? I mean,

Ah, a credit to "no child left behind". Let's see, that was implimented 8 years ago by a GW Bush, right?

GW Bush? Hey, rot in our educational system predates him and is systemic. Note the number of incidental countries whose children’s intellectual repertoire now exceeds ours.

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c'mon, 'bama has had, What? two years involvement in Nat'l Politics - and a bunch of years of Chicago politics. So, aside from the numinous sloganeering of "Hope", "Change", and the "Urgency of now" – it appears he has nothing to offer John and Jane Q BitterClinger other than Chicago politics – taken national.

>>Hmmmm...so let me get this straight...People are flocking to him...<<

Umm, George Soros? Moveon.org? Money, money, money? If I invested that much paper behind my goat shed – it would grow fungus. Anyways,

it helps ‘bama that the mainstream media manipulates the electorate by reporting favorably on ‘bama approx 80% of the time versus 50% for Clinton. It appears that the mainstream media seeks to construct its golem in ‘bama. My take on the matter is

that ‘bama appeals to the subcortical ganglia of many.

>>...because he offers hope, change, and a way to unite the people of the US<<

Words, words, words... blowin’ smoke; you forget how Congress figures into the equation. Remember Pelosi’s 100 days?

“Uniting”? by diverging from his message of “hope, change, and the urgency of now” to ridicule his competition, “[Clinton] is running around thinking she’s Annie Oakley”, “[Clinton] ... politician who will ‘do anything,’ including ‘throwing back a shot and a beer.’ “ Well, let’s see,

I s’pose Clinton might have called ‘bama a “long-legged pimp” as does James David Manning, Black Preacher, Harlem.

>>...as opposed to the last 16-20 years with decisive and polarizing politics where by ones politics is determined by a bumper sticker. Hmmmm....not very intelligent politicing those bumper stickers..<<

Better, empty sloganeering?

>>And you oppose...? You don't like...? You don't like...? You appears to not like...?<<

Speaking of “not liking”... I don’t like a phony who plays his ‘friend and mentor’ off against political expediency – and throws him under the bus only when deemed politically necessary. I don’t like the presumption of a Chicago political hack that, with two years nat’l experience, wants to more directly impact my future. Tchah! I don’t like... well, don’t get me started.

(Did you notice that the Abortion Rights Group endorses ‘bama? ...a simple matter of like minds?)

[jasd]

>>Many white racists don't trust black people so it makes sense they wouldn't vote for Obama.<<

So, what's the distinction between 'racist' and 'racial'?

Anyway, there are those of us who wouldn't vote for 'bama for the most obvious reason that --

he is soooooo, unqualified.

[Bravus]

Must admit I find all the good ole boy love for Hillary a heart-warming thing.

[jasd]

>>Must admit I find all the good ole boy love for Hillary a heart-warming thing.<<

Nah, Bravus, just a hearty dislike (and dread) for the calibre of the candidate who may ricochet into the candidacy for the Dem Party

[Jeannieb43]

Anyway, there are those of us who wouldn't vote for 'bama for the most obvious reason that --

he is soooooo, unqualified.

Whether or not he's "qualified" (at the start), he'll have to appoint a good Cabinet to advise him. And he'll be a better risk than ANYbody from the Repubs. I'll take anybody the Dems put up, now that Bush has put our country into the dung heap.

[jasd]

>>...he'll have to appoint a good Cabinet to advise him.<<

The same might be said of someone as myself; yet, that would not change reality – I would suck as POTUS - but who knows? two years as apprentice..., and then, "To the moon!"

Hope springs eternal, yes?

“...the Illinois Democrat said he'd offer the former president a job in his administration "in a second." ”

“Obama also said he would be happy to offer Al Gore a position in his administration tackling climate change issues.”

For one who’s made “change” his mantra – well...

seems ‘bama’s definition of “change” includes the same-o’, same-o’ beltway and Boston-Washington corridor politics [as well, no doubt, cronyism and, of course, the Chicago machine] – but then, that is simply extrapolation...

>>And he'll be a better risk than ANYbody from the Repubs.<< [ed.jasd]

I’d rather Dubya pre-empted for a third term.

>>I'll take anybody the Dems put up,...<<

That oughta make Michelle Obama ecstatic – given that she seems so preoccupied with “Misery in America” (can we say, ‘wish fulfillment’?).

>>...now that Bush has put our country into the dung heap.<<

Funny, I’ve witnessed the opposition party (Dems) play the role of not-so-clandestine fifth column (surprise!) for decades – and were I to have sat in the Trinity Unity Church of Christ, Chicago – for twenty years – I’d say, “America’s chickens have come home to roost!” So, big surprise – that they (Dems) continue in character, yes?

“Lucky, lucky” [/desperately]