US$700 Billions--From Taxpayers or Printing Money Out of Thin Air?

[delta]

When God said, "Let there be light." And yes, there was light.

He is God, He can creates everything out of nothing.

As a parable, the same scenario applies to "The Federal Reserve" in USA, a Jesuits-driven Central Bank that is 100% privately owned by the richest of the rich and the largest bankers. The Federal Reserve has nothing to do with the US Government and it's not a government institution at all, of course. But the Government allowed them to choose this name to deceit everybody that "The Federal Reserve" is a government property.

But "The Federal Reserve" has too much power in everything related to financial and now including in economic system and everithing that The Fed has been doing should never be audited. Not also in the future.

The biggest danger in US system is that Federal Reserve has a full authority to print money as much as they want out of thin air-without a backup such as gold to sustain the value of the US paper money printed. Then the money they printed usually given to wholesale banks as a loan and then those wholesale banks lend money to relail bankers as well as to individuals.

Can you imagine how much money that already in circulation right now because of the money printed out of thin air? Oh well, of course this will end up with higher and higher prices of everything-and keep moving higher. Yet your income probably stay the same still.

All of those toxic lendings in the big financial institutions right now already preset by the big bosses in the Jesuit driven Federal Reserve--believe it or not. And since there is no other choice, then finally those bankers must surrender all of their own assets as well as the toxic loans back to The Federal Reserve in which they all get the loans. By doing this satanic tactic, then The Federal Reserve, driven by Jesuits, has more and more power and belongings but all of the debtors become less and less in power and freedom in this freedom country, USA!

And now guess what? Financial aid for $700 billions. Where all of the bail out money comes from?

But don't worry. Even right now that satanic Federal Reserve can temporarily eliminate the pain now by adding much more pain but in the future....simply by saying the words, "Let there be $700 Billions!!!" And there should be $700 billions instantly, of course. To print the money is as needed basis only but the $700 billions already proclaimed and existed, and already in the system and circulation.

(Again, this snowball effect should end ups with too much money in circulation: the cause for inflation and hyperinflation--at the same time you probably don't have enough money of your own and yet the prices are more expensive already)

The biggest stumbling block for the Federal Reserve right now is how to deceit all people that the $700 billion money not comes out of thin air.

So now even though it's risky by saying a lie that the money will come from taxpayers, however the highest priority for the Federal Reserve is how to keep all eyes stay blind and people not questioning, "Do you have the authority to print money out of thin air?" "Where are all of the money come from?"

It doesn't matter who will be the next president. But since long time ago if any of US president (and candidates) disagree with The Federal Reserve central banking system...that person must be removed and even assassinated.

[Woody]

Why is it that there seems to be a central theme of the Jesuits when this author is posting?

[delta]

Do your homework, Redwood.

Even though you are a pro-Jesuit and will do anything to defend it, I just ask you to read the history of The Federal Reserve.

Let's be fair here.

God bless you.

[Woody]

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Let's be fair here.

Fair is in the eye of the beholder.

[delta]

Again, don't ask me but check by yourself, please...if you want. I know you won't believe it but the truth is the truth no matter what.

[delta]

BTW, where is this $700 billion going? It sure seems like it is rewarding bad behavior.

[delta]

Thousands of articles, movies and sermons to unlock the secrets of the Master Planner and...who owns The Federal Reserve:

http://www.google.com/search?q=Jesuit%2C+%22Federal+Reserve%22%2C+Who+owns&btnG=Search&hl=en&sa=2

[delta]

Just click here===> JESUIT: The Master Planner and the Owner of "THE FEDERAL RESERVE"

[Kountzer]

Lincoln opposed the fed. bank and was assasinated. One of the conspirators made it to Europe and to the Vatican, where he was given asylum. In 1867 the USA broke of relations with the Vatican.

A few of the world's richest men: Guggenheim, JJ Astor were opposed to the fed bank. They were invited to ride on the inaugural voyage of the Titanic. The captain of the ship was a 26 year veteran of sailing in the N Atlantic. Instead of caustiously cruising thru the icebergs, he wrecklessly plowed ahead at 22 knots. He was also a Jesuit.

JFK passed a bill, bill 11110, that greatly limited the powers of the fed bank. Not long afterwards he was assasinated.

Coincidences? I think not.

DB

[John317]

Lincoln opposed the fed. bank and was assasinated. One of the conspirators made it to Europe and to the Vatican, where he was given asylum.

What is the name of this co-conspirator in the assassination of President Lincoln? Was it John Surratt?

[John317]

Not sure if this is accurate or true but I find it very interesting and plan to do more research on the topic. Anyone know about this stuff for sure?

http://www.cloakanddagger.de/media/where_the_vatican_wealth_is_stor.htm

WHERE THE VATICAN WEALTH IS STORED

A clutch of paragraphs from THE VATICAN BILLIONS by Avro Manhattan:

"The Vatican has large investments with the Rothschilds of Britain, France and America, with the Hambros Bank, with the Credit Suisse in London and Zurich. In the United States it has large investments with the Morgan Bank, the Chase-Manhattan Bank, the First National Bank of New York, the Bankers Trust Company, and others. The Vatican has billions of shares in the most powerful international corporations such as Gulf Oil, Shell, General Motors, Bethlehem Steel, General Electric, International Business Machines, T.W.A., etc. At a conservative estimate, these amount to more than 500 million dollars in the U.S.A. alone.

"In a statement published in connection with a bond prospectus, the Boston archdiocese listed its assets at Six Hundred and Thirty-five Million ($635,891,004), which is 9.9 times its liabilities. This leaves a net worth of Five Hundred and Seventy-one million dollars ($571,704,953). It is not difficult to discover the truly astonishing wealth of the church, once we add the riches of the twenty-eight archdioceses and 122 dioceses of the U.S.A., some of which are even wealthier than that of Boston.

"Some idea of the real estate and other forms of wealth controlled by the Catholic church may be gathered by the remark of a member of the New York Catholic Conference, namely 'that his church probably ranks second only to the United States Government in total annual purchase.' Another statement, made by a nationally syndicated Catholic priest, perhaps is even more telling. 'The Catholic Church,' he said, 'must be the biggest corporation in the United States. We have a branch office in every neighborhood. Our assets and real estate holdings must exceed those of Standard Oil, A.T.&T., and U.S. Steel combined. And our roster of dues-paying members must be second only to the tax rolls of the United States Government.'

"The Catholic church, once all her assets have been put together, is the most formidable stockbroker in the world. The Vatican, independently of each successive pope, has been increasingly orientated towards the U.S. The Wall Street Journal said that the Vatican's financial deals in the U.S. alone were so big that very often it sold or bought gold in lots of a million or more dollars at one time.

"The Vatican's treasure of solid gold has been estimated by the United Nations World Magazine to amount to several billion dollars. A large bulk of this is stored in gold ingots with the U.S. Federal Reserve Bank, while banks in England and Switzerland hold the rest. But this is just a small portion of the wealth of the Vatican, which in the U.S. alone, is greater than that of the five wealthiest giant corporations of the country. When to that is added all the real estate, property, stocks and shares abroad, then the staggering accumulation of the wealth of the Catholic church becomes so formidable as to defy any rational assessment.

"The Catholic church is the biggest financial power, wealth accumulator and property owner in existence. She is a greater possessor of material riches than any other single institution, corporation, bank, giant trust, government or state of the whole globe. The pope, as the visible ruler of this immense amassment of wealth, is consequently the richest individual of the twentieth century. No one can realistically assess how much he is worth in terms of billions of dollars."

[delta]

Technically, The Federal Reserve is nothing but one of the infrastructures. However, those infrastructure is fully constructed by Jesuits.....

Now just a reminder here-as a little background-of why is it so important to reveal its cruelty, the subtle deceits and Jesuit's barbaric-destructive plans in the near future not only in economic but also in human rights.

Again, no offense at all to our beloved Catholics families and friends, but rather this study shall be one of our greatest love to our Catholic Friends and that's why it need to be revealed to God's people where are still in this system. Yet, deciding to choose "keep silent" is just kindda politically correct only.

But Romanism as a system is no more in harmony with the gospel of Christ now than at any former period in her history. The Protestant churches are in great darkness, or they would discern the signs of the times. The Catholic Church is far-reaching in her plans and modes of operation. She is employing every device to extend her influence and increase her power in preparation for a fierce and determined conflict to:

- Regain control of the world

- Re-establish persecution

- Undo all that Protestantism has done.

Catholicism is gaining ground upon every side. See the increasing number of her churches and chapels in Protestant countries. Look at the popularity of her colleges and seminaries in America, so widely patronized by Protestants. Look at the growth of ritualism in England and the frequent defections to the ranks of the Catholics. These things should awaken the anxiety of all who prize the pure principles of the gospel.

Protestants have tampered with and patronized popery; they have made compromises and concessions which papists themselves are surprised to see and fail to understand. Men are closing their eyes to the real character of the Catholic Church and the dangers to be apprehended from her supremacy. The people need to be aroused to resist the advances of this most dangerous foe to civil and religious liberty.

[delta]

There are about 300 million men, women, and children currently living in the United States, so the bailout is equal to roughly $2,300 per person.

So let the wall street, CEOs, Pres. Bush and all in his animal kingdom as well as Jesuits as the owner of The Federal Reserve have a party now.....then let all of the US Citizens pay for it.

Agree?

[Gerr]

All these years I thought the Federal Reserve was gov't owned!!! What a revelation when I checked into it last night. I found out that it was established/owned by a number of huge banks. Two of these are Rothschilds and Lehman. Another is Morgan Stanley. Rothschilds and Lehman Jesuits? C'mon!!!

Gerry

[Neil D]

I have a problem.....

Whenever there is a cry, "The Jesuits are coming. The Jesuits are coming", I tend to ignore the whole problem....

Mainly because my history in checking out the Jesuits, granted, thier history is not one of the best in their forcing confessions, and killing of protestants, has been that they have reliquished those tactics...

Maybe they do work in the back darkened rooms and make deals and still, possibly force deals down the throats of certain businessmen, or maybe they do control business interests such that the Vatican siphons off 10% of thier value each month....

....but so what? So what if the Mormon interests also do the same thing...So what if the Adventist church does the same thing....So what????

Conspiracy theorys are fads...and they come and go much to the sensationalistic excitment of those that need those fixes....

Someone said, on this forum, that to create money, we need credit...Well, it seems to me if this principle is true, that the US needs to create $700 billion more dollars for availablity....and over the next 25 years , is that going to be a bad thing?

[delta]

I have a problem....

Whenever there is discussion like this, Neil.D always jump into immediate conclusion: "This must comes from conservative Adventists. They are fanatics, they are not mainstream Christian and the Conservative Adventists must be eliminated due to their fanaticism. They are fanatics...I hate them for real. Never convince yourself that I don't hate conservative Adventism. They are nothing but heretics."

But let's see outside the box now:

Just in North America alone, approximately 5,367 protestant churches from any denomination such as Lutheran, Methodist, Calvinist, etc including some more from non-denominational sunday churches reported that they are ready to preach and discuss, even held free seminars about the Federal Reserve, histories behind it as well as study or at least an introduction about Jesuit as the owner of the Federal Reserve. This all due to recent economic collapse that already pre-set in USA.

The study of Jesuit owned-Federal Reserve banking system are mostly requested by church members and not firstly initiated by their own pastors--and they hope the study would be finished before the US ThanksGiving holiday. Again, what's in the Church Members' mindset right now is the safety of their lifesafings money, the future of the US economics finally is the SYSTEM. Who, what, why and how....

The number of churches to study about the us Banking system would probably keep increasing since the church members usually not interested in general election to be inserted in any sermons and who's gonna be for the next president.

However, the economic collapse must directly influence the church member in bad direction. That's why the number $700,000,000,000.00 not only a big number, but also a big question, "Where the money comes from?" TaxPayers or Printing money out of thin air....?"

Search by yourself-if you want-about the interconnection between JESUIT and FEDERAL RESERVE, and you can easily find more than 2 millions webpages, articles and videos in Yahoo (2.256 millions in google). This kindda huge number....but if you read or watch some articles you won't be surprise because the biggest reason is that The Federal Reserve is owned by Jesuits !!!

Now you wanna convince yourself that million upon million articles and movies about this Jesuit-owned Federal Reserve are all conspiracy theory? ... are fads?

Or, at least you wanna convince yourself that the million articles all come from Conservative Adventists you hate?

Well, now back inside to our church. Since the protestant churches have increase in interest of study the Revelation and what really happening in our country right now (I mean, USA)....unfortunately there's still no confirmed information that Adventists Church in North America will have the study, sermon or seminar of what's really happening right now especially in financial and economic.

I believe that God has given a special message to the Seventh-day Adventist Churh to proclaim to the world just before the close of probation...and we're not supposed to be in slumber (anymore).

But I also believe that God will use even the communists if Adventist People always accuse their own brethren as "alarmists" or "Fanatics" whenever they say, "Be ready, Jesus is coming quickly!"

It's not too hard to find some Adventist people that become so allergic whenever their fellow Adventists say, "This is sign of the times, this world is near to the end. Be ready. Be ready" They are not sceptical, and still believe Jesus is Coming soon, but allergic to this end time message."

[Neil D]

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I have a problem....

Whenever there is discussion like this, Neil.D always jump into immediate conclusion: "This must comes from conservative Adventists. They are fanatics, they are not mainstream Christian and the Conservative Adventists must be eliminated due to their fanaticism. They are fanatics...I hate them for real. Never convince yourself that I don't hate conservative Adventism. They are nothing but heretics."

Since I am the subject, somehow, of this thread, let me voice my opinion..

First, I never said that I hate conservatives....I never said that they were fanatics...

If you are going to use 'my' words, let us be accurate....I maintain that-

...people who see Jesuits everywhere are also conspiracy theorists...and mostly it's the Adventists who are espousing that Jesuits are all over the place...Of course, Mormons are also doing it as well, but they don't seem to do it as publically as Adventists to. At least when something is going badly, in this case, the economy, then there is some Catholic institution that is behind the problem.

Second, Adventists have been given the greatest description of the Example of Agape Love ever in human history and yet, all they can espouse is Law, vegetarianism, righteousness by faith [for themselves], and sometimes, how the Catholic Church still has the control in the world today thru the Pope or [as in this case] the Jesuits. They still can not describe what agape love truly is, nor can they emulate it very well either. Instead, they major in dysfunctional relationships.It is truely amazing that the Lord has not wiped us off the face of this planet, and started over...

Ultra conservative Adventist can not describe a loving relationship. But they can describe your behavior. They can not tell of love and what is moving in a relationship, but they can tell you what behaviors are not socially acceptable. They can not describe why they love a lost relative, but they can tell you of his faults....

I maintain that Christianity is to make you into a better person, not cripple you in your relationships. Christianity is accually a study of dynamic relationships and the fulfillment of Christ in His disciple. Anything less than that, and a person may not be safe to save in heaven....

Now, having said all that and keeping it in mind, I would ask you, Delta, how does a loving Creator best solve a problem like this that is going to effect the whole world....or would it affect the whole world at all?

[doctorj]

Perhaps a good article to read in conjunction where this discussion has been going is:

http://www.usagold.com/federalreserve.html

I would suggest a balanced read of both what has been presented in this article and what has been written in this discussion should be a good way to go.

[delta]

Dear Neil.D

Thanks for your posting.

First, when you declare, "I never said that I hate conservatives....I never said that they were fanatics...". Well, that's your business. However, everybody shall be known by their own fruits, not by the trees. So are you sure of what you say here?

But the attitude of your conclusions always attack your fellow ultra conservative Adventists by giving a signal that they have no love. They only have hatred messages against some other denominational. Sorry, but also your statements' tendency here is too judgemental by signaling everyone that the conservative Adventists are judgemental people.

BTW, just a reminder here that the "rebuke message" is not the same with "rebuke message but not so polite." You catch that? In case this happened to me, should I complaint about the rebuke message I got or to complaint about the way they rebuke me?

But you are so proud to attack the ultra conservative Adventists and said that their behaviors are not socially acceptable because they can not describe a loving relationship.

Who did brainwash you to love the doctrine, "We shall have unconditional love to everybody, including the terrorists except to ultra conservative Adventists", "Love your enemy and the terrorists. Pray for them who hates you but you must hate and never pray for the ultra conservative Adventists!!! Amen?

If you wanna talk about Agape Love, you must also speak up about the fake Agape Love, and how to see the difference.

Now just a reminder here of why is it so important to reveal Jesuit and its cruelty, the subtle deceits and Jesuit's barbaric-destructive plans in the near future...not only in economic but also in human rights.

Again, no offense at all to our beloved Catholics families and friends, but rather this study shall be one of our greatest love to our Catholic Friends. That's why these all need to be revealed to God's people where are still in this system. Yet, deciding to choose "keep silent" is just kindda politically correct only (begging to be socially accepted)...but not to show our Agape love to them at all.

It is true that there are real Christians in the Roman Catholic communion. Millions in that church are serving God according to the best light they have. They are not allowed access to His word, and therefore they do not discern the truth. They have never seen the contrast between a living heart service and a round of mere forms and ceremonies.

God looks with pitying tenderness upon these souls, educated as they are in a faith that is delusive and unsatisfying. He will cause rays of light to penetrate the dense darkness that surrounds them. He will reveal to them the truth as it is in Jesus, and many will yet take their position with His people.

[Neil D]

Oh the fodder...where shall I begin?????? Let's start here....

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If you wanna talk about Agape Love, you must also speak up about the fake Agape Love, and how to see the difference.

It is said that the IRS studys a real dollar bill only....The reason is that there are so many ways to counterfit the origional that you can not keep up. So why do we need to speak to the difference of "fake Agape Love"....? Sorry, you don't make any sense here, Delta.

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Who did brainwash you to love the doctrine, "We shall have unconditional love to everybody, including the terrorists except to ultra conservative Adventists", "Love your enemy and the terrorists. Pray for them who hates you but you must hate and never pray for the ultra conservative Adventists!!! Amen?

Well, that is not what I said, how ever I do agree with the doctrine to have unconditional love for everyone....My example is Jesus who said, whoever shall strike you on one cheek, offer to him the other...Love your enemys...It was also Jesus who said to beware the leven of the Pharasses...Pharasses, as you remember, were the equivalent to the ultra conservative SDA, as they were very conservative in thier interpretation of the bible.

And what does MY attitude have to do with this thread entitled- : US$700 Billions--From Taxpayers or Printing Money Out of Thin Air?...? Regardless of my attitude, why, Delta are you high-jacking this thread ....for your enjoyment????

As a moderator, I have to set the example and get the thread back on track. In this case, what does congress planning to do to rescue the failed finacial system....?