Woody Posted December 16, 2008 Posted December 16, 2008 I've read in Ellen White's writings that we may become members of the Royal Family as children of the King. My question is ... Do angels belong to the Royal Family? Or can they? Or are we as Earthlings the only ones that have that opportunity? Would this not place us above the angels? Quote May we be one so that the world may be won. Christian from the cradle to the grave I believe in Hematology.
Woody Posted December 16, 2008 Author Posted December 16, 2008 Yes. I was hoping though that someone could tell me. I just have no idea and figured that perhaps EGW might have commented on the subject. Quote May we be one so that the world may be won. Christian from the cradle to the grave I believe in Hematology.
skyblue888 Posted December 16, 2008 Posted December 16, 2008 Red, I will attempt to answer that question with the Scripture and the pen of inspiration. Thanks for asking. "The first man was of the earth, made of dust; the second Man is the Lord from Heaven." 1 Cor.15:47. In other words, the above passage of Scripture means that "It is the privilege of every believer in Christ to possess Christ's nature, a nature far above that which Adam and Eve forfeited by transgression." E.G. White, The Upward Look, 18. To everyone that comes to God trusting wholly in the merits of a crucified and Saviour "The Lord places His own merits upon him and thus elevates him in the scales of moral value with God." E.G. White, Our Father Cares,121. Thus we may be one with Christ as He is one with the Father and become members of the Royal Family. laval Take a close look at it one more time! This passage of Scripture and the two statements from the pen of inspiration tell us something that not one in one hundred understands for himself. Yet, it is a most precious truth, so precious that all the treasured wealth of man since the beginning of time is nothingness when compared to it. It is a truth that all need to understand and appreciate for it is the fullness of the blessing of the Gospel of Christ! Rom.15:29. How many of us can say that we truly appreciate these words for what they really are. We can talk about everything under the sun even when it comes to religious things but the most important and stupendous truths that God has ever sent to us are totally unappreciated if not totally ignored. It is the privilege of every believer in Christ to possess a nature that not even holy angels possess. Not many understand what it means to "become a partaker of the divine nature." 2 Peter 1:4. It is this nature that elevates us above the angels who have never sinned and that makes us members of the Royal Family. Angels are not members of the Royal Family. They are ministers serving the Royal Family just as the Royal Family in England is served by ministers appointed by the Royal Family. Holy angels have a perfect nature but nevertheless it is still angelic nature, no more, no less. They were created with a nature superior to that of man but now through Christ man can be elevated far above perfect angelic nature if they will appropriate the merits of Christ to themselves. Thus they are elevated, in the scales of moral value, with God! This is food for thought, don't you think? And yet I have never heard a clear presentation on these things. Have you? Not until we know what is the sinner's privilege can we begin to appreciate the words of Paul: "Thank God for His unspeakable Gift." 2 Cor.9:15. sky (laval) I believe this is the truth the enemy has succeeded, to a large degree, in hiding from mankind by casting his shadow across our pathway. Quote "The merits of His sacrifice are sufficient to present to the Father in our behalf." S.C.36.
Woody Posted December 16, 2008 Author Posted December 16, 2008 Thanks Sky. I appreciate the quotes. But I was wondering if you answered the questions? Could you put it in your own words briefly ... the answers to the questions? I think what you are saying is that we do become members of the royal family ... but what about the angels? Does this mean they would be lower than us? Do we have a class system in heaven? Thanks Sky ... Quote May we be one so that the world may be won. Christian from the cradle to the grave I believe in Hematology.
Moderators Gerr Posted December 16, 2008 Moderators Posted December 16, 2008 I've read in Ellen White's writings that we may become members of the Royal Family as children of the King. My question is ... Do angels belong to the Royal Family? Or can they? Or are we as Earthlings the only ones that have that opportunity? Would this not place us above the angels? Quote: Now there was a day when the SONS OF GOD came to present themselves before the LORD..." Job 1:6. ESV For this reason I bow my knees before the Father, from whom every family in heaven and on earth is named The Holy Bible : English standard version. 2001 (Eph 3:14-15). Quote
Members phkrause Posted December 17, 2008 Members Posted December 17, 2008 I'm not sure about a class system. I've read somewhere that the Angels are above us right now, but Jesus comes to gather us to him, than we will be higher the angels. Not sure where I've read this, either the Bible or SOP or both? pk Quote phkrause When the righteous are in authority, the people rejoice; But when a wicked man rules, the people groan. Proverbs 29;2
Woody Posted December 17, 2008 Author Posted December 17, 2008 Quote: "By the offering made in our behalf we are placed on vantage-ground. The sinner, drawn by the power of Christ from the confederacy of sin, approaches the uplifted cross, and prostrates himself before it. Then there is a new creature in Christ Jesus. The sinner is cleansed and purified. A new heart is given to him. Holiness finds that it has nothing more to require. The work of redemption involved consequences of which it is difficult for man to have any conception. There was to be imparted to the human being striving for conformity to the divine image an outlay of heaven's treasures, an excellency of power, which would place him higher than the angels who had not fallen. The battle has been fought, the victory won. The controversy between sin and righteousness exalted the Lord of heaven, and established before the saved human family, before the unfallen worlds, before all the host of evil workers, from the greatest to the least, God's holiness, mercy, goodness, and wisdom." SD 243 Quote May we be one so that the world may be won. Christian from the cradle to the grave I believe in Hematology.
skyblue888 Posted December 17, 2008 Posted December 17, 2008 Red, i knew the whole time that you knew the answer. :) Quote "The merits of His sacrifice are sufficient to present to the Father in our behalf." S.C.36.
Members phkrause Posted December 17, 2008 Members Posted December 17, 2008 pk Quote phkrause When the righteous are in authority, the people rejoice; But when a wicked man rules, the people groan. Proverbs 29;2
Woody Posted December 18, 2008 Author Posted December 18, 2008 Red, i knew the whole time that you knew the answer. Oh no. That would be a discussion stopper. I don't claim to have the answer. There are always two sides of a coin. So, I am still here to learn. Quote May we be one so that the world may be won. Christian from the cradle to the grave I believe in Hematology.
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