Rules and Guidelines For Forum Posting

[John317]

Rules and Guidelines For Forum Posting:

1) Be loving. Discuss issues with Christ-like love for your brothers and sisters here.

Recognize that others are seeking the truth just like you. And these praying, thinking Christians might come to different conclusions than your own.

These members will feel just as strongly about the "rightness" of their opinion as you feel about yours. Study with them in humility -- seeking the truth, NOT just trying to convice others you are right. Go wherever the Spirit, Bible, and Spirit of Prophecy lead. HIS truth will win in the end.

2) Speak ONLY for yourself. Do not tell anyone what any other person is saying. Do not put words in their mouth. They will do that themselves. Advocate for your own position strongly but with love for others.

3) Don't call names or be negative towards other people... they are Christ's children. Sinners just like ourselves. Only rebut differing issues, NOT the members who write them.

4) No commercial messages, or spamming.

5) If you ever feel justified for being combative toward another member... see rule #1 and DON'T.

6) Listen to, and cooperate with, moderators.

Feel free to suggest other guidelines by writing to us here at Adventist Forum. God Bless!

[Sulla]

Always good to remind people. Also I have noticed atleast for myself its easy to sound combative but mean to come across that way.

[John317]

Yes, that's true. It can happen easily because all you have are the written words, without tone of voice or the expression of people faces. That won't be a problem, though-- it'll be taken into consideration.

[Woody]

Great Rules. Haven't seen these before. Are they new?

Hmmm. I do feel that most all break some of the rules as listed.

I know that I've written to Stan to complain a time or two.

I've also stated in my words what someone else is saying.

I've been called every name in the book by those who scream about calling others names. But, I don't have a fault of calling others names. I guess that is because I have had that done to me so much.

I do need to call my mama more often as suggested.

Being negative towards other? Now that is pretty subjective. I suppose that those who think I am negative .... will accuse me of that one. How do you distinguish between making it personal and making it towards the issues?

You state the following: "Feel free to suggest other guidelines by writing to us here at Adventist Forum. God Bless!"

This sounds like it comes with some authority from the Adventist Forum. Now I could be wrong ... but from what Stan has said ... I thought that each moderator of each forum ... wrote their own rules. Now ... you seem to be speaking for Stan and the entire forum. So, this confuses me. Can you clarify what your qualifications are and who you are speaking for? You and your forums? OR The entire forum?

[Liz]

Speak ONLY for yourself. Do not tell anyone what any other person is saying. Do not put words in their mouth. They will do that themselves. Advocate for your own position strongly but with love for others.

I really am not trying to be difficult, I am just trying to clarify. Does this mean that we can't stick up for others? If we see them being--maybe attacked is a strong word, maybe quoted out of context? We can't defend them, they have to do it? Is that right? Again I am really trying to clarify, because I am so guilty of doing this--so you are saying I just need to let them take care of themselves?

[cricket]

This sounds like it comes with some authority from the Adventist Forum. Now I could be wrong ... but from what Stan has said ... I thought that each moderator of each forum ... wrote their own rules. Now ... you seem to be speaking for Stan and the entire forum. So, this confuses me. Can you clarify what your qualifications are and who you are speaking for? You and your forums? OR The entire forum?

I'd like the answers to these questions as well.

[fccool]

"If you have a complaint do not PM Stan Jensen. Call your mama instead"

:)

[Nan]

Great Rules. Haven't seen these before. Are they new?

You state the following: "Feel free to suggest other guidelines by writing to us here at Adventist Forum. God Bless!"

This sounds like it comes with some authority from the Adventist Forum. Now I could be wrong ... but from what Stan has said ... I thought that each moderator of each forum ... wrote their own rules. Now ... you seem to be speaking for Stan and the entire forum. So, this confuses me. Can you clarify what your qualifications are and who you are speaking for? You and your forums? OR The entire forum?

These rules were put before all the moderators before appearing here, hence can be considered 'pucka'.

Each forum has to operate within the overall guidelines for CA.

(And I hope I am not usurping the role of an Administrator here. But you are probably still enjoying your Christmas celebrations, and Christmas is over, where I am )

[Morning Glory]

Pucka? What does that mean?

MG?

[cricket]

How does one issue a complaint?

Is the "Notify" link no longer to be used?

What constitutes "commercial messages"? Is it only in posts, or in signatures as well?

How long is the window for suggestions open? And where is the appropriate place to issue a suggestion?

[John317]

Members may issue a complaint by using the "Notify" link or by sending a private message to the moderator whose name is at the bottom of the thread.

The commercial messages referred to are those on posts or in PMs. You may have commercial messages in signatures or in profiles.

Suggestions may be made at any time. For now the appropriate place to make suggestions is on this thread.

Members will be notified when a permanent place is made for suggestions.

[Woody]

Originally Posted By: Redwood

Great Rules. Haven't seen these before. Are they new?

You state the following: "Feel free to suggest other guidelines by writing to us here at Adventist Forum. God Bless!"

This sounds like it comes with some authority from the Adventist Forum. Now I could be wrong ... but from what Stan has said ... I thought that each moderator of each forum ... wrote their own rules. Now ... you seem to be speaking for Stan and the entire forum. So, this confuses me. Can you clarify what your qualifications are and who you are speaking for? You and your forums? OR The entire forum?

These rules were put before all the moderators before appearing here, hence can be considered 'pucka'.

Thank you Nan. The communication on this Forum is strained when the person speaking does not give the authority on which he is speaking. This is a frequent problem identified. A little more information is helpful rather than a dictatorial and authoritative approach. Just simply saying that the moderators had come together and approved it .... would have been more instructive for all of us.

The same needs to be said when the rule is to listen to the moderator. I don't listen to the main moderator on this forum (I have him on 'ignore' most of the time.) ... unless he identifies himself as a moderator. I do see an improvement in this area by many of the moderators ... but it does again need to be reminded of them.

[John317]

Originally Posted By: Redwood

Great Rules. Haven't seen these before. Are they new?

You state the following: "Feel free to suggest other guidelines by writing to us here at Adventist Forum. God Bless!"

This sounds like it comes with some authority from the Adventist Forum. Now I could be wrong ... but from what Stan has said ... I thought that each moderator of each forum ... wrote their own rules. Now ... you seem to be speaking for Stan and the entire forum. So, this confuses me. Can you clarify what your qualifications are and who you are speaking for? You and your forums? OR The entire forum?

These rules were put before all the moderators before appearing here, hence can be considered 'pucka'.

Each forum has to operate within the overall guidelines for CA.

(And I hope I am not usurping the role of an Administrator here. But you are probably still enjoying your Christmas celebrations, and Christmas is over, where I am )

Thanks, Nan. I agree with you.

There's no reason to be confused about these rules. They apply to the whole Forum. Each moderator doesn't write their own rules but each moderator is free to make his own judgment call as to their enforcement or application. We hope that the members will not have to be told in detail how to follow these rules but will understand the principles and apply them themselves.

As you say, these rules were put before all the moderators, including the Administrators, and are "pucka," or official or genuine.

Merry Christmas!

[Woody]

What is the procedure for 'notifying' when a moderator posts an abusive post that is against the rules? Naturally it would be impossible to get past the moderator ... who does no moderate himself. Is there an appeals process?

[Dr. Shane]

I think if a member has a problem with a specific moderator it is only prudent to avoid posting in that moderator's forum.

[Woody]

Quote:

Each moderator doesn't write their own rules

I wish you had just stated that this was a new decision. Because prior to this Stan indicated that each moderator could run his form as he pleased and write whatever rules he wanted. Just check out the rules on the forum that Bravus moderates.

It is difficult enough when the rules change ... but to claim that things have always been this way ... just really confuses many of us.

[Stan]

"If you have a complaint do not PM Stan Jensen. Call your mama instead"

Brilliant!!!

[Dr. Shane]

Bravus is a teacher of teachers. I think that is all that needs to be said about Bravus.

[John317]

The moderators decisions on the Forms are official, as are the rules and guidelines for forum posting. Members may make suggestions and the rules can be added to or changed if moderators decide that is best for Adventist Forum.

If you feel that a moderator has been unfair to you, you can talk to the moderator by PM, but don't bring these issues up on public threads.

Listen to, and cooperate with, the all the moderators.

Thank you. Hope you are having yourself a very merry Christmas.

[John317]

Yes, I thought you'd appreciate that added.

We know just how busy you are.

[Nan]

Pucka? What does that mean?

MG?

Sorry it is a term from the days of the British in India, still used a bit, meaning genuine or the real thing.

[jasd]

>>Bravus is a teacher of teachers. I think that is all that needs to be said about Bravus.<<

Is this supposed to be cryptic or informative?

...kinda, makes Bravus sound

amoebic.

I think of Bravus as more complicated than that. Anyway, per the 'rules' re his 'forum' - I think, I may be on the same track as Redwood, I mean, what's with a 'personality'(?) test, or is it a stress test? emotional? quotient? or just plain shibbolethic? ahh, ishklick?

:: Merry Xmas? umm, I thought it was until I encountered a

"Rules and Guidelines" thread posted - today of all days...

So, what am I missing? ...seems I've been missing a whole bunch of juiciness - as otherwise, I've not noticed anyone behaving badly. Oh, silly me, I get it,

it's a Santaish - naughty or nice schtick! :-o

[Robert]

I'm the sweetest, nicest person here!

[rudywoofs (Pam)]

jasd said:

Quote:

:: Merry Xmas? umm, I thought it was until I encountered a

"Rules and Guidelines" thread posted - today of all days...

So, what am I missing? ...seems I've been missing a whole bunch of juiciness - as otherwise, I've not noticed anyone behaving badly. Oh, silly me, I get it,

it's a Santaish - naughty or nice schtick! :-o

I second that thought.

[Dr. Shane]

Originally Posted By: Shane

Bravus is a teacher of teachers. I think that is all that needs to be said about Bravus.

I think of Bravus as more complicated than that.

Ahhh...... teachers make rules.... and students obey them.... at least they are suppose to.... and yes Bravus is more complicated than that. He writes books too.