Moderators John317 Posted February 9, 2009 Moderators Posted February 9, 2009 Obama calls anew for swift action on economy By MARK S. SMITH, Associated Press Writer – 1 hr 27 mins ago ELKHART, Ind. – Making his case in the most dire terms, President Barack Obama said that if Congress does not quickly pass an economic stimulus package, the nation will slip into a crisis so deep that "we may be unable to reverse" it. "We can't afford to wait. We can't wait to see and hope for the best," Obama said in Elkhart, Ind., a community reeling in job losses during the recession that has defined his young presidency. "We can't posture and bicker and resort to the same failed ideas that got us in into this mess in the first place." Obama took the Washington debate Monday to a Midwest setting of everyday Americans, sought to build support for a massive infusion of government spending. The popular president got at least one biting question during a candid question question-and-answer session, when a woman who identified herself as Tara took Obama to task for some of the tax lapses of his high-level nominees. "You've come to our county and asked us to trust you, but those that you have appointed to your Cabinet are not trustworthy and can't handle their own budget and taxes," she said. Others in the town-hall session booed her, but Obama interjected: "No, no, this is a legitimate question." Obama said he has taken responsibility for the perception that some people shouldn't have to play by the same rules as everyone else. Two nominees, including Tom Daschle, who was in line to be secretary of Health and Human Services, withdrew from consideration after revelations of delinquent taxes. But he added that the mistakes were honest ones and said: "If you're not going to appoint anybody who's ever made a mistake in your life, then you're not going to have anybody taking your jobs." On the economic crisis, Obama acknowledged that the legislation currently circulating in Congress is not beyond criticism, even poking fun at its authors at one point. Said Obama: "It's coming out of Washington. It's going through Congress." "You know, look, it's not perfect," the president conceded. "But it is the right size, it is the right scope. Broadly speaking, it has the right priorities to create jobs that will jump-start our economy and transform the economy for the 21st century." The $827 billion Senate version of the plan was expected to pass the Senate on Tuesday. However, it remained to be seen how much GOP support it would draw. And it must be reconciled with the House version, which totaled $820 billion in spending and tax cuts. Senate and House negotiators were already preparing to deal, with the goal of a bill on Obama's desk by the end of this week or beginning of next. Obama went so far as to say he could not assure that every item in the stimulus plan would work as hoped. But he said he has no doubts that "delay or paralysis" in Washington will deepen the country's crisis. He was speaking in northern Indiana, where the unemployment rate soared to 15.3 percent in one county in December, up a whopping 10.6 percentage points from December 2007. The region has been hammered by layoffs in the recreational vehicle industry. "Doing nothing is not an option," Obama said. "We've had a good debate. Now it's time to act." At ease back in campaign mode, Obama took a range of questions after making an opening pitch for the stimulus package. He tried to put the economic legislation in real terms, saying it would help people through broader unemployment benefits, tax relief and job opportunities. "Being here in Elkhart, I am more confident than ever that we will get where we need to be," Obama said. "Because I know people are struggling, but I also know that folks here are good workers and good neighbors who step up, who help each other out, who make sacrifices when times are tough." Obama was also holding a prime-time news conference back at the White House on Monday and traveling Tuesday to Florida to another region hurting badly during the economic meltdown. The blitz shows that Obama and his advisers are worried about a looming Senate vote on the stimulus bill, which failed to gather meaningful Republican support during rare weekend debate. A key vote on the legislation was set in the Senate for Monday afternoon. The town-hall sessions allow Obama to appeal directly to Americans for grass-roots backing of his plans. Originally, aides had insisted that Obama's time would be better spent remaining in Washington to shepherd the stimulus bill, rather than taking the more traditional presidential route of traveling around the country to pressure lawmakers from his bully pulpit. Quote John 3:16-17 For God so loved the world, that he gave his only Son, that whoever believes in him should not perish but have eternal life. [17] For God did not send his Son into the world to condemn the world, but in order that the world might be saved through him.
Members phkrause Posted February 9, 2009 Members Posted February 9, 2009 Not sure what to believe one way or the other. But I think that they should try it and see if it works. You know on NPR radio the other day they were interviewing this financial guy, and he thought that they should spent even more. He suggested spending 1.5 trillion. So it seems to me you can ask all there financial guys and you get a different answer from all of them. I fill that lets do it and see. It can only get worse. hahahahaha Its not really funny but I think you get it. pk Quote phkrause When the righteous are in authority, the people rejoice; But when a wicked man rules, the people groan. Proverbs 29;2
Moderators John317 Posted February 9, 2009 Author Moderators Posted February 9, 2009 I think that we need to take whatever time is needed to do it right, and not rush it through and pass something that is not what the economy needs, just because we're in a hurry. It seems to me that there are a lot of people who would like to have some of those things become law before anyone really has a chance to think them through. You can be sure that the bill could be done far better. Even Obama concedes this. Quote John 3:16-17 For God so loved the world, that he gave his only Son, that whoever believes in him should not perish but have eternal life. [17] For God did not send his Son into the world to condemn the world, but in order that the world might be saved through him.
Members phkrause Posted February 9, 2009 Members Posted February 9, 2009 If he concedes this than why does it look like he is in such a hurry. I heard him talking today. And I'm very impressed with his ability to take questions and be able to answer them without having to have a script of what to say. He is very knowledgable on everything. I get the filling that he knows exactly what he wants. Quote phkrause When the righteous are in authority, the people rejoice; But when a wicked man rules, the people groan. Proverbs 29;2
Woody Posted February 10, 2009 Posted February 10, 2009 I thought it was interesting that he was critical of Washington DC and Congress considering that his own party controls Congress and Washington DC. So in essence ... he was criticizing his own party. Funny that he can get away with that. If I criticize the Demos ... I get in big trouble. Quote May we be one so that the world may be won. Christian from the cradle to the grave I believe in Hematology.
Dr. Shane Posted February 10, 2009 Posted February 10, 2009 I think there is a need for swift action. I do like the McCain Amendment, which is not going any where. Other than that I don't like too much more of the Republican criticisms. Quote Pastoral Family Counselor... Find me at www.PostumCafe.com Author of Peculiar Christianity
Members phkrause Posted February 10, 2009 Members Posted February 10, 2009 I think some think that you are critical to only what demos do and think that all that the repubs do is OK. Where as Shane and John are critical towards certain issues, be them demo or repub even though they are, they'll probably let me know if I am wrong, both republicans. At least I see there preface towards the republican party. And I will agree that there are a few here that would only vote demo, period. I did not vote for Obama, but I am willing to see if he can bring about a turn around in the economy, that he inherited from the previous administrations. And right now he seems to be holding all the house and senate accountable. So far his talk is good, lets see if he can walk all that talk. pk Quote phkrause When the righteous are in authority, the people rejoice; But when a wicked man rules, the people groan. Proverbs 29;2
Members phkrause Posted February 10, 2009 Members Posted February 10, 2009 I also like McCain's amendment. I've always like McCain. I was hoping that his ideas would have been look at a little more. pk Quote phkrause When the righteous are in authority, the people rejoice; But when a wicked man rules, the people groan. Proverbs 29;2
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