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Go to Recovery.gov to read the new Stimulus Package -- the entire law. Plus go back often to this site to see how the money is being used.

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Please don't call it a 'Stimulus Law'. There is nothing stimulating about it. It is very depressing. It is a spending bill that will further spend us to death. The market recognizes that ...

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I think Redwood if you recall when Obama mentioned a few times that this was a spending bill! So yes it is depressing but we will see if it does what it is suppose to do! I for one I'm going to pray that it does.

pk

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When the righteous are in authority, the people rejoice; But when a wicked man rules, the people groan. Proverbs 29;2
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Okay ... praying ...

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Okay ... praying ...

I think I hear the tone, and it is not encouraging, oh ye of little faith....

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Look here ... at least I am making an effort. Give me some credit. Because a friend of mine asked me to pray ... I agreed to.

May we be one so that the world may be won.
Christian from the cradle to the grave
I believe in Hematology.
 

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Look here ... at least I am making an effort. Give me some credit. Because a friend of mine asked me to pray ... I agreed to.

"An effort?" ....praying is "an effort"???? on this side of the screen, along with all the other comments that you have made, it sounds more like rebellous resignation....IOWs, to place this into proverb, 'an unconvinced man, silenced by arguement, is still unconvinced.'....

....or to place this into one of Neil's proverbs, "Man, who listens to FoxNews and or Rush Limbaugh, becomes man with erroded faith".......

Ok, so I'll never make it into the worlds great philsophers, so sue me already....

Democracy is a device that ensures we shall be governed no better than we deserve.

 

George Bernard Shaw

 

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I read it. Sounded like a big stimulus if you're constipated. sarcasm.gif (Sorry - couldn't resist...)

Really, it sounds like a lot of make-work for federal employees. If it ever gets down to doing what it is SUPPOSED to do, maybe it might help. But it won't in the short run. IMHO. And people need help NOW.

Yes, please all *do* pray about the stimulus law now in effect...

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Meddle Not In the Affairs of Dragons; for You Are Crunchy and Taste Good with Ketchup.

If we all sang the same note in the choir, there'd never be any harmony.

Funny, isn't it, how we accept Grace for ourselves and demand justice for others?

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I for one Redwood do appreciate it, even if Neil is skeptical.

pk

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When the righteous are in authority, the people rejoice; But when a wicked man rules, the people groan. Proverbs 29;2
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That sounds good to us dgrimm!

pk

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When the righteous are in authority, the people rejoice; But when a wicked man rules, the people groan. Proverbs 29;2
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just FYI:

Q: How can I contact the Administration with questions or comments about Recovery.gov and the recovery package?

A: The best method to comment or ask a question on Recovery.gov is to use our contact us form. The question or message will be referred to the best person to handle the matter, and they will respond as quickly as possible.

For questions about the federal government, visit USA.gov or call 1 (800) FED INFO (1-800-333-4636) (8 am-8 pm ET Monday-Friday).

Pam     coffeecomputer.GIF   

Meddle Not In the Affairs of Dragons; for You Are Crunchy and Taste Good with Ketchup.

If we all sang the same note in the choir, there'd never be any harmony.

Funny, isn't it, how we accept Grace for ourselves and demand justice for others?

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BTW, at the end of the video Obama at Recovery.gov states that this whole stimulus package is based on PROJECTIONS, not on present situations. We need help now...not a year from now.

The feds couldn't manage the money they had previously - what makes anyone think the federal govt has a handle on how all *these* billions of dollars is going to be spent judiciously? **snort**

I hope I'm wrong in my assessment of the situation.

Pam     coffeecomputer.GIF   

Meddle Not In the Affairs of Dragons; for You Are Crunchy and Taste Good with Ketchup.

If we all sang the same note in the choir, there'd never be any harmony.

Funny, isn't it, how we accept Grace for ourselves and demand justice for others?

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The Demos .... just LOVE 'projections'. It is a way of manipulating what they do based on info other than facts.

May we be one so that the world may be won.
Christian from the cradle to the grave
I believe in Hematology.
 

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sounds like there is not enough praying and too much complaining, Redwood

Democracy is a device that ensures we shall be governed no better than we deserve.

 

George Bernard Shaw

 

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Sounds to me like you are the complainer.

May we be one so that the world may be won.
Christian from the cradle to the grave
I believe in Hematology.
 

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Yes dgrimm, I meant the unemployment benefits. I just ran out of my benefits about 3 weeks ago.

pk

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When the righteous are in authority, the people rejoice; But when a wicked man rules, the people groan. Proverbs 29;2
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I just read that all employee's everywhere will be getting pay increases due to the Stimulus Bill. You will be seeing an extra dollar or two in your paycheck every week, after deductions. The pay increase is $15/week. You should start seeing this massive infusion of personal wealth sometime in June or July. Of 2009, I believe. The Feds believe that this "drip infusion" of cash will stimulate buying by the consumer. They are serious.

Now mind you, among most jobs that the Feds want to create, are jobs that require training. How long is it going to take to train these people to do quality work? Who's going to pay for the training? I don't want to drive over a bridge built by people who don't really know what they're doing. Same thing for railroad tracks. Can untrained people do other construction? Maybe some jobs, but not many, I don't think...

We will know the Stimulus Bill is working when we don't hear so many reports of unemployment and foreclosures. Oh, brother.

info from The Oregonian 2/18/09, a notoriously Democratic newspaper...

Pam     coffeecomputer.GIF   

Meddle Not In the Affairs of Dragons; for You Are Crunchy and Taste Good with Ketchup.

If we all sang the same note in the choir, there'd never be any harmony.

Funny, isn't it, how we accept Grace for ourselves and demand justice for others?

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What alternative proposal did you have in mind that was going to instantly fix the economy?

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Basically, it's a mess 30 years in the making, and if it can start getting turned around in 6-12 months it'd be a miracle.

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What alternative proposal did you have in mind that was going to instantly fix the economy?

I never said anything about instantly fixing the economy. It can't be done.

The point of my post was to show how ludicrous the Stimulus Bill can get.

(But the paying off of mortgages was a great idea, IMHO!!!! That would have helped so many people. Too bad that wasn't part of the Stimulus package.)

Pam     coffeecomputer.GIF   

Meddle Not In the Affairs of Dragons; for You Are Crunchy and Taste Good with Ketchup.

If we all sang the same note in the choir, there'd never be any harmony.

Funny, isn't it, how we accept Grace for ourselves and demand justice for others?

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Yes. I agree with you on that one Pam.

May we be one so that the world may be won.
Christian from the cradle to the grave
I believe in Hematology.
 

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I heard a great quote on Monday.

"If we prevent people from failing, we prevent them from succeeding."

"Please don't feed the drama queens.."

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Then we would not have banks and we would not be able to get a loan. Look at all the Billions of dollars they are getting from the government and still are. Do we let them fail?

May we be one so that the world may be won.
Christian from the cradle to the grave
I believe in Hematology.
 

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Wow. I heard the stimulus was like 1000 pages. Is it true? And also is Obama going to sign it without knowing what it is?

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