More Men Would Pretty Up To Make More Money

January 15, 2005

Magazine Tries To Gauge Men's Vanity

am EST January 13, 2005

A survey of 1,000 men by GQ magazine has found that 92 percent of American men would not wear makeup even if it guaranteed them a more fulfilling sex life, but 14 percent would paint their faces for a 25 percent boost in salary.

The magazine said its survey was designed to find out how vain men are.

Overall, 52 percent of men said they spend less than one minute deciding what to wear, 38 percent spend up to five minutes, and only 8 percent spend more than five minutes in front of the closet.

However, 47 percent of men said they spend more time putting themselves together for an important business meeting, versus 42 percent who said they spend more time getting ready for a first date.

Fifteen percent admitted to spending more on clothes than their wives.

Sixty-five percent think plastic surgery is OK for anyone who wants it, man or woman.

Other results from the poll are available in the magazine's February issue.

Men: What would make you more likely to wear makeup on a regular basis?

Choice Votes Percentage of 4555 pollers

Better sex 666 15%

Better pay 1196 26%

Nothing 2272 50%

I'd do it just to look good 421 9%

January 16, 2005

This is very silly. Wearing makeup on a daily basis is a time consuming and annoying chore in my book. I wouldn't do it for more sex OR more money.

January 16, 2005

So, ah, [ahem] what would you cause you to wear makeup on a daily basis? [i get the impression that nothing would make you do it, but I am not sure.]

Inquiring minds want to know....?

January 16, 2005

I agree Nico, and my idea of easy care hair is a style that can be blow dried in the car on the way to work, using the car fan. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />

I remember my mother putting some colour on for church when she was not very well, to stop well meaning members telling her how ill she looked !

And Neil, I used a little makeup when I got married - that was probably the only time in about 10 years. So that is what it took for me.

I dont know any of the other gender who wear makeup - and certainly cannot imagine any of those close to me (sons and brothers and husband) using it for any reason.

January 16, 2005

Your impression is correct: there is nothing I can think of that would get me to wear makeup on a daily basis.

And I'm with Nan on the hairstyle thing only one step further: my idea of a hairstyle is something I can wash, brush, and air-dry on its own. When you have naturally dry hair type, you can't afford to be blowdrying on a regular basis.

January 16, 2005

Count me in with Nan and Nico.

To me, makeup is just weird. Why cover up the face that the Lord gave me? This is the face He expects to see. It is the face He designed just for me.

I can't imagine anyone in heaven wearing makeup. And so, I choose not to do it here on earth.

Behold! The loveliness of me that God created. If it offends any man or woman, let it be known in the record of life that me, one of God's creations, offends him/her!

I'm proud of the face the Lord gave me and will not wear makeup for any man.

January 16, 2005

Right on, Christine. I'm another non-makeup-wearer. What a complete waste of time and money.

It's a sad state of affairs when women feel the need to modify their face before they can show it to the world.

aldona

January 16, 2005

We should start a movement, LOL. Makeup = Western Burka!!! Makeup is the Hollywood/glamour / Western world's equivalent of forcing women to hide themselves (just like the Burka under the Taliban in the East) so that it is easier for men to objectify them (treat them like objects, property, things to fill a certain need or role, not whole human beings).

OK it's a bit Valerie Solanas-esque, but it could be fun ... see if we can get others to cop into the meme ...

January 16, 2005

Now I have a burkha of the Afghani type.... I never thought of comparing the two LOLOL

January 16, 2005

So, let me get this straight,

There are women on this earth, of which at least 3 who walk the forums of ClubAdventist, who do NOT use makeup at all?

No eyeshadow,

No lipstick,

No lip balm

No making the eyelashes 'longer' with that stuff that goes on the eyelashes

No eyeliner

no lip gloss

none of that stuff...nada..ne-et...nothing?

January 16, 2005

Yes - except for the occasion I mentioned. (In case I give a wrong impression I will say that my hair is not exactly as nature has developed it - colorwise.) And I do use perfume - which invariably has been a gift. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/thumbsup.gif" alt="" />

January 16, 2005

Interesting how it's women who've responded to this posting when the article is about men!

January 16, 2005

this topic deserves a rant..

Call it Vanity in front of the Vanity..

Equipment required: Macy's cosmetics department.

Who involved? - Tammi Baker Wannabes

What is taking place? - Extreme makeovers (amateur night)

or getting dolled up when too old to play with dolls

Diagnosis- General - Acute Diogenes Syndrome..

specific- cosmeticitis

Some women need to start preparing for church the night before..with BOTOX injections.

January 16, 2005

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So, let me get this straight,

There are women on this earth, of which at least 3 who walk the forums of ClubAdventist, who do NOT use makeup at all?

No eyeshadow,

No lipstick,

No lip balm

No making the eyelashes 'longer' with that stuff that goes on the eyelashes

No eyeliner

no lip gloss

none of that stuff...nada..ne-et...nothing?

That's right. None of the above. The only thing that goes on my face is soap.

There have been 2 occasions in my life when I have worn full make-up - one was my wedding, and the other was my med school graduation dinner. Both times I paid someone else to do my face for me, because I've never done it and I'm completely clueless.

aldona

January 16, 2005

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Now I have a burkha of the Afghani type.... I never thought of comparing the two LOLOL

Nan, you have a burka? So do I! Mine is blue. I bought it on eBay.

It completely freaked everybody out (not to mention the cat) the first time I wore it at home.

My brother has it at the moment. He borrowed it to wear to some end-of-year parties (at church and work).

aldona

January 16, 2005

Me too. None of that stuff. None. Not even perfume for me. Deodorant, yes; but perfume, nope.

January 16, 2005

Quote:

Your impression is correct: there is nothing I can think of that would get me to wear makeup on a daily basis.

And I'm with Nan on the hairstyle thing only one step further: my idea of a hairstyle is something I can wash, brush, and air-dry on its own. When you have naturally dry hair type, you can't afford to be blowdrying on a regular basis.

Nico, I'm with you on both counts. I don't wear any makeup - and Neil, lip balm is NOT makeup. I do wear that because my lips are dry and uncomfortable if I don't, but it doesn't change my appearance. It's not the colored kind.

And I also prefer to wash my hair, comb it, and let it dry by itself, not because my hair is dry, but whenever I have blow-dried it, I ended up with a hideous, fuzzy mess. But in recent years even my best efforts seldom got my hair under control to the point where I wasn't ashamed to allow it to be seen. For the last couple of years, I've been wearing scarves almost all the time, and a wig to church. Only on the very rare good hair days has anyone except my husband seen it.

To anyone who envies women with naturally curly hair, I have only one thing to say - ignorance is bliss! I've recently had it chemically straightened, and I'm delighted to finally have trouble free hair. Even at its totally messed-up worst, it looks better than it ever did in its natural state.

January 17, 2005

Quote:

none of that stuff...nada..ne-et...nothing?

Correct: nothing. Except I do not count "lip balm" as makeup; it is medicinal. In the wintertime, I get chapped lips, so I need chapstick. This is invisible on my lips; it does not add gloss or color. It is no more "make up" than hand cream to alleviate dry hands would be "make up".

Once in a very rare while I might put on a little eyeliner for a special occasion. This might occur perhaps 2 or 3 times in a year if even that much. That's the only exception. On a day to day basis I don't wear any of that stuff. Period.

January 17, 2005

Heh, then I must be one of those men who pretty up. Here's my list:

Pears Transparent Soap

Head and Shoulders Shampoo

Axe antiperspirant spray that I buy in South Africa because Canada seems to only have roll-ons and gel antiperspirants for men (ick!)

Cool Water cologne

Oil of Ulan moisturizer

Whitening Fluoride Toothpaste (various brands)

Gilette Gel Shave Cream

Listerene mouthwash

Visine eye drops (quite common)

Murine ear drops (quite rare)

January 17, 2005

Quote:

Now I have a burkha of the Afghani type.... I never thought of comparing the two LOLOL

Nan, you have a burka? So do I! Mine is blue. I bought it on eBay.

It completely freaked everybody out (not to mention the cat) the first time I wore it at home.

OK now I want one! Just to see what it's like ... LOL.

What I really want to get is a Salwaar Kameez ... I want to have 2 or 3 different Salwaar Kameez sets and use them as my church clothes. This gorgeous African-American girl with BRIGHT BLUE eyes at campmeeting had this really pretty white and gold Salwaar Kameez for her church clothes and it was just perfect. Dressy yet comfortable -- and amazingly EGW-compliant! (e.g. the dress with pants underneath idea ...) Plus the scarf bit could be used as an accent piece OR a headcovering ... (*wheeeee great the dorky uber conservative Bible femme is coming out in me now!!! ROFL*)

January 17, 2005

Mmmmm ... Eastern wear .....

http://www.alhannah.com/

January 17, 2005

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Now I have a burkha of the Afghani type.... I never thought of comparing the two LOLOL

Nan, you have a burka? So do I! Mine is blue. I bought it on eBay.

It completely freaked everybody out (not to mention the cat) the first time I wore it at home.

OK now I want one! Just to see what it's like ... LOL.

What I really want to get is a Salwaar Kameez ... I want to have 2 or 3 different Salwaar Kameez sets and use them as my church clothes. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif" alt="" /> This gorgeous African-American girl with BRIGHT BLUE eyes at campmeeting had this really pretty white and gold Salwaar Kameez for her church clothes and it was just perfect. Dressy yet comfortable -- and amazingly EGW-compliant! (e.g. the dress with pants underneath idea ...) Plus the scarf bit could be used as an accent piece OR a headcovering ... (*wheeeee great the dorky uber conservative Bible femme is coming out in me now!!! ROFL*)

I wore the burkha (white) once at an end of year debate at the hospital I was working in. I cannot remember the topic - which was of minor importance anyway - but I wore the burkha over a Silwar-qamiz outfit and it was great to hear the audience wondering who it was until I bared my head to speak.

The silwar-qamiz - or however you want to anglicize the spelling - has to be the best outfit ever invented. Everyday ones made of fine cool cotton are so comfortable and practical and the dressy ones look gorgeous. I used to wear them often when I lived in Pakistan. So if we are going to start a fashion revolution - that is the way to go. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/thumbsup.gif" alt="" />

The real way to have them is to have the whole wide pants gathered at the waist with a tape. That is the way the men wear them and seeing them riding a pushbike down the street is rather funny. The cheating way is to have the wide legs attached to a basque )if that is the right term) and then gather that with a tape. Mine were made that way.

January 17, 2005

More links to Islamic/ Middle Eastern clothing suppliers...

http://www.modestclothes.com/culture/islamic.asp

Some of them are really beautiful and elegant. It's enough to make one want to convert to Islam. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/oops.gif" alt="" />

aldona

January 19, 2005

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The silwar-qamiz - or however you want to anglicize the spelling - has to be the best outfit ever invented. Everyday ones made of fine cool cotton are so comfortable and practical and the dressy ones look gorgeous. I used to wear them often when I lived in Pakistan. So if we are going to start a fashion revolution - that is the way to go.

I'm with you there!

Quote:

The real way to have them is to have the whole wide pants gathered at the waist with a tape. That is the way the men wear them and seeing them riding a pushbike down the street is rather funny. The cheating way is to have the wide legs attached to a basque (if that is the right term) and then gather that with a tape. Mine were made that way.

I'm not sure what you mean here, could you elaborate further? A "tape"? Do you mean an elastic waistband? Or something else? I don't know what a "basque" is -- is that like a panel front or something?

January 19, 2005

I am obviously not very good at technical descriptions. The silwar (trousers) are classically made in 4 pieces, a back and front for each leg, and when all are sewn together the finished garment is very wide at the waist. A hem is made and a tape threaded through and that is drawn in and tied to hold the pants up.

The female version can have the top of the legs gathered into what is effectively a very wide waist band ( but does not go above the waist) - this band is still much wider than the real waist measurement and finished as the male version. But the effect is to reduce a lot of fabric over the hips, while maintaining the loose airy comfort of the garment.

Hope that is a bit clearer <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/blush.gif" alt="" />

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