Guest Posted January 15, 2005 Posted January 15, 2005 Compared to previous ones? Are you bored with the death of Jesus and bloody atonement topic? IS it a trite theme?? Does this quarterly remind you of the movie.. THE PASSION OF CHRIST? where most of it is tied to the final event.. Quote
Restin Posted January 15, 2005 Posted January 15, 2005 "Bored" wouldn't be the word for me, as the sacrifice of Christ has all to do with whether or not I have a chance to live forever, or be non-existent forever. But I heartily agree that wallowing in, or enjoying, human suffering and gore, whether Christ's or anyone else's, is evil indulgence in disguise. Like reading Fox's Book of Martyrs, is often an excuse for the sadistic, consciously or unconsciously, to indulge in scenes of violence they secretly enjoy. Quote
Nicodema Posted January 15, 2005 Posted January 15, 2005 Or like having extensive discussions on "Christian sexuality" -- what is and isn't appropriate to "do with one's spouse" in graphic detail, whether or not God intends married couples to enjoy "hot sex", etc. -- being a cover-up for those who simply wish to indulge the excitement of their lustful passions. I know exactly what you mean ... Quote "After such knowledge, what forgiveness?" -- T.S. Eliot
Guest Posted January 16, 2005 Posted January 16, 2005 Hmmm...since when has SEX and VIOLENCE become boring?? Quote
Nicodema Posted January 16, 2005 Posted January 16, 2005 Are you bored with the quarterly JimBob? Since you asked, I'm asking you ... And believe me, anything can become boring when one's mind and/or senses are saturated/inundated with it. TRUST me ... Quote "After such knowledge, what forgiveness?" -- T.S. Eliot
Guest Posted January 16, 2005 Posted January 16, 2005 I am not bored..especially since I am trying to balance out the theology and principles of the lesson and make personal application for the class. Went well today..we unpacked the verses and made contemporary applications.. the reason is that when one glances at the lesson in a shallow superficial way using a narrow sacrifice/substitution focus...it can get trite. The lesson theme is fairly narrow focused. Quote
Beryl Posted January 16, 2005 Posted January 16, 2005 I have found the first 2 lessons very interesting, but then, I find that the study of the santuary system is a very exciting study because it helps us to see the reality of what Christ is doing for us in heaven right now. If you want a fresh look at the lesson each week, go to www.GoBible.org and you will find a different way of looking at it. Beryl Quote "Grace is God doing for us, in us and through us that which He requires of us but which is impossible for us to do in or for ourselves." But He said to me, "My grace is sufficient for you, for my power is made perfect in weakness." 2 Cor. 12:9.
Ron Lambert Posted January 16, 2005 Posted January 16, 2005 Since the Plan of Salvation will be a science we will continue to study for eternity, seeing ever deeper and deeper ramifications and aspects to it, I think it is a bit presumptuous to call a study of the Plan of Salvation boring. It all depends on how deeply you are willing to delve into the subject, and how close to home you are willing to make application. So far the quarterly has not gone into the subject very deeply, but it has raised basic subjects and basic questions that a competent teacher can take as deeply as he is able to. Comparisons to the recent Mel Gibson-produced movie, The Passion of the Christ, are specious. The only valid complaint people have about the movie is in how it focuses on the bloody brutality of the way Christ was treated in such great and lengthy detail. Surely no one would suggest that the quarterly does anything like that. Most of the references to "blood" are in Bible quotes. The subject of blood sacrifice, and why without blood there is no remission of sins, and why blood brings forgiveness and cleansing, are valid theological questions about things the Bible plainly says. God, after all, is the One who instituted the blood sacrifices. We need to try to see what it all means in reality, beyond all the metaphors. That I think is a worthy study for anyone. Quote
Guest Posted January 16, 2005 Posted January 16, 2005 Do you think pastors study the SS lesson... How many bring out depth to this theme in their sermons?? Quote
Ron Lambert Posted January 16, 2005 Posted January 16, 2005 Get someone from the 1888 Message Study Committee to come to your church and present a weekend seminar, and you will learn about the subject in greater depth. Quote
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