Woody Posted May 21, 2009 Posted May 21, 2009 At the American Enterprise Institute today ... Dick Chaney gave a speech. Wow was it impressive. Very convincing. It makes you proud to be an American. I can not say that about the previous speaker they had. This man was disjointed. Defensive. Played politics. And looked like he was talking about of both sides of his mouth. Scary. Unbelieveable. People ... if you didn't hear the Chaney speech. Do try to listen to it. It was POWERFUL. I think he is perhaps the greatest VP we have had. Quote May we be one so that the world may be won. Christian from the cradle to the grave I believe in Hematology.
Woody Posted May 21, 2009 Author Posted May 21, 2009 Yes dgrimm. Chaney was very impressive and much more credible. He said that only 3 people were waterboarded and that it saved many many lives. I listened to the entire speech. Quote May we be one so that the world may be won. Christian from the cradle to the grave I believe in Hematology.
Moderators lazarus Posted May 21, 2009 Moderators Posted May 21, 2009 I think he is perhaps the greatest VP we have had. Quite the opposite Red. Richard Cheney was at heart of one of the most incompetent administrations in American history. Quote Great spirits have always found violent opposition from mediocrities. The latter cannot understand it when a man does not thoughtlessly submit to hereditary prejudices but honestly and courageously uses his intelligence. Einstein
Woody Posted May 21, 2009 Author Posted May 21, 2009 Last I checked ... you and I are alive. That took a lot of doing. BTW ... name one VP who was better. Quote May we be one so that the world may be won. Christian from the cradle to the grave I believe in Hematology.
Moderators lazarus Posted May 21, 2009 Moderators Posted May 21, 2009 Last I checked ... you and I are alive. That took a lot of doing. If you are judging the effectiveness of a VP by the number of lives lost Gore, Bush I, Mondale, do better than Cheney. Don't forget to add the 4,000 Americans dead in Iraq. Thats 7,000+. 4,000 of those died as a result of a mistake by Mr Cheney and Mr Bush. Quote Great spirits have always found violent opposition from mediocrities. The latter cannot understand it when a man does not thoughtlessly submit to hereditary prejudices but honestly and courageously uses his intelligence. Einstein
Woody Posted May 21, 2009 Author Posted May 21, 2009 It was not a mistake. It turned out great. Just ask anyone in Iraq how they feel about their lives now compared to Saddam days. Quote May we be one so that the world may be won. Christian from the cradle to the grave I believe in Hematology.
Woody Posted May 21, 2009 Author Posted May 21, 2009 If you want someone local to ask. Just go to Andrews and speak with Professor Joseph Kidder. Or check out his latest book. Quote May we be one so that the world may be won. Christian from the cradle to the grave I believe in Hematology.
Moderators lazarus Posted May 21, 2009 Moderators Posted May 21, 2009 It was not a mistake. The mistake was starting a war on the premise that there were WMD's and finding that there were none. That's a mistake under any circumstance. Quote: It turned out great. That's a obviously false assertion Quote: Just ask anyone in Iraq how they feel about their lives now compared to Saddam days. I wonder how the 100,000 dead Iraqi's would answer that question. Oops they can't. I guess they're better off dead! Quote Great spirits have always found violent opposition from mediocrities. The latter cannot understand it when a man does not thoughtlessly submit to hereditary prejudices but honestly and courageously uses his intelligence. Einstein
Moderators lazarus Posted May 21, 2009 Moderators Posted May 21, 2009 If you want someone local to ask. Just go to Andrews and speak with Professor Joseph Kidder. Or check out his latest book. Is he Iraqi? what's his book about? Has he been to Iraq? Quote Great spirits have always found violent opposition from mediocrities. The latter cannot understand it when a man does not thoughtlessly submit to hereditary prejudices but honestly and courageously uses his intelligence. Einstein
Woody Posted May 21, 2009 Author Posted May 21, 2009 Quote: I wonder how the 100,000 dead Iraqi's would answer that question. Oops they can't. I guess they're better off dead! Are you referring to the ones that Saddam got to before we arrived? Quote May we be one so that the world may be won. Christian from the cradle to the grave I believe in Hematology.
Woody Posted May 21, 2009 Author Posted May 21, 2009 Originally Posted By: Redwood If you want someone local to ask. Just go to Andrews and speak with Professor Joseph Kidder. Or check out his latest book. Is he Iraqi? what's his book about? Has he been to Iraq? Yes. He was born in Ninevah. Quote May we be one so that the world may be won. Christian from the cradle to the grave I believe in Hematology.
Moderators lazarus Posted May 21, 2009 Moderators Posted May 21, 2009 Does he live here? Is he going back? Quote Great spirits have always found violent opposition from mediocrities. The latter cannot understand it when a man does not thoughtlessly submit to hereditary prejudices but honestly and courageously uses his intelligence. Einstein
Woody Posted May 21, 2009 Author Posted May 21, 2009 He teaches at Andrews Seminary. I have no idea if he would return. He does have family there. Quote May we be one so that the world may be won. Christian from the cradle to the grave I believe in Hematology.
Planey Posted May 22, 2009 Posted May 22, 2009 ... Dick Chaney Quote Graeme____________________________________________________________________________________________________________
Dr. Shane Posted May 23, 2009 Posted May 23, 2009 Polls are showing that Dick Cheney's approval ratings have been increasing since he has went on the attack. He does have Obama on the defensive. I don't really admire Cheney's tactics but I have to hand it to him, he is making a lot of people rethink opinions they had of the Bush Administration and looking more critically at the Obama Administration. Quote Pastoral Family Counselor... Find me at www.PostumCafe.com Author of Peculiar Christianity
Dr. Shane Posted May 23, 2009 Posted May 23, 2009 The mistake was starting a war on the premise that there were WMD's and finding that there were none. That's a mistake under any circumstance. Yes, it was a mistake. It was an intelligence failure. Hillary Clinton supported the war. John Kerry supported the war. CIA director George Tennant supported the war. The majority of Democrats in Congress voted to authorize the use of force in Iraq. Over 30 countries were allied in the invasion of Iraq. Indeed it was a mistake. It is very disingenuous for anyone to try to pin the mistake on any single political party or even an individual nation. Quote Pastoral Family Counselor... Find me at www.PostumCafe.com Author of Peculiar Christianity
Moderators Jeannieb43 Posted May 23, 2009 Moderators Posted May 23, 2009 Cheney's daughter was quoted today on the Internet news [can't recall the site] saying the reason Cheney is going on the offensive now about Bush's tactics is really because Cheney is scared to death that he himself will be charged with war crimes, and brought to trial by the Obama Administration. He's trying to deflect the wave of opposition to him and GWB. I can't stand the man, and I wish the TV networks wouldn't give him so much free publicity. Quote Jeannie<br /><br /><br />...Change is inevitable; growth is optional....
Members phkrause Posted May 23, 2009 Members Posted May 23, 2009 The more he and Pelosi cry about this, one for not knowing the other for how righeous this was, eventually the out cry for an investagation will be to great not to have one. And than maybe the truth will come out! pk Quote phkrause When the righteous are in authority, the people rejoice; But when a wicked man rules, the people groan. Proverbs 29;2
Dr. Shane Posted May 23, 2009 Posted May 23, 2009 Cheney's daughter was quoted today on the Internet news [can't recall the site] Don't believe everything on the internet - especially from sites one cannot remember. Quote Pastoral Family Counselor... Find me at www.PostumCafe.com Author of Peculiar Christianity
Dr. Shane Posted May 23, 2009 Posted May 23, 2009 Don't call ex-Vice President Cheney a has-been "It wasn't like on Jan. 21, he planned that he was going to speak out in this way," said Cheney's daughter, Liz, a former State Department official who has traveled extensively with her father. "It was driven by events and I think he will continue to do it if he feels it's important to the public debate." "You just have to know the way he works," she said. "He was watching what was going on. He knew it was wrong and he knew he had an obligation to say it was wrong." The Cheney camp says it's not about politics. In Washington, however, everything is about politics and Cheney's decision to make his case on talk shows and deliver speeches at think tanks cuts both ways. His message fires up conservatives, but also rallies Democratic opponents who don't miss an opportunity to portray the unpopular Cheney as the lead spokesman of the Republican Party... "It's nothing personal. It's nothing political. It's not legacy," said former Cheney counselor Mary Matalin, who has known Cheney for three decades. "There's one and only one thing that's animating and motivating his advocacy and that's Obama's behavior relative to these security policies — the release of the legal memos and the open-endedness of the potential prosecution of the intelligence gatherers or the lawyers." Matalin said Cheney wouldn't stop talking even if leaders of the GOP asked him to. Cheney, 68, has squeezed public defense of Bush policies into his private life, which he splits between his suburban Washington home in McLean, Va. and his homes in Wyoming and on Maryland's Eastern Shore. He still has Secret Service protection, but drives himself whenever possible. He spends time working on his memoirs and at his transition office in McLean. Every few weeks he hosts lunch for guests around his kitchen table to discuss foreign policy and national security issues. He is with his grandchildren at softball games and Sunday dinners. On Mother's Day, he brought the youngsters all the makings for s'mores and roasted marshmallows. Cheney has always been straightforward. But when he walked in Bush's shadow he had to temper his public remarks, stay on the White House message. He could manipulate the levers of powers behind the scenes, which conjured up the image of "Star Wars" villain Darth Vader. Out of office, he has turned to the podium, television news shows and interviews to insert himself in the public debate — and not only on national security... [text taken from link] Quote Pastoral Family Counselor... Find me at www.PostumCafe.com Author of Peculiar Christianity
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