Moderators John317 Posted June 5, 2009 Moderators Posted June 5, 2009 Sermons and Talks Volume One (1990), page 367, 368 Chapter Title: Lessons from the Fifteenth of Romans We may make mistakes, and we may have to "admonish one another." But there has come into the churches at Oakland and the surrounding community a spirit of backbiting, of faultfinding and evil-speaking, which demonstrates that you are not converted. Words are uttered that never should pass the lips of a Christian. My brethren and sisters, when you have nothing better to speak of than something about the faults of others, remember that "silence is eloquence." Cease to dwell upon the shortcomings of others. Keep the tongue sanctified unto God. Refrain from saying anything that might detract from the influence of another; for by indulging in these words of criticism, you blaspheme God's holy name as verily as you would were you to swear. I am instructed to present these things before you, that you may see how you dishonor the name of Christ Jesus.[Verses 15, 16, quoted.] Here is where THE WORK OF THE HOLY GHOST comes in, after your baptism. You are baptized in the name of the Father, of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost. You are raised up out of the water to live henceforth in newness of life--to live a new life. You are born unto God, and you stand under the sanction and the power of THE THREE HOLIEST BEINGS IN HEAVEN, who are able to keep you from falling. You are to reveal that you are dead to sin; your life is hid with Christ in God. Hidden "with Christ in God"--wonderful transformation. This is a most precious promise. When I feel oppressed and hardly know how to relate myself toward the work that God has given me to do, I just CALL UPON THE THREE GREAT WORTHIES, and say: YOU KNOW I cannot do this work in my own strength. YOU MUST WORK in me, and by me, and through me, sanctifying my tongue, sanctifying my spirit, sanctifying my words, and bringing me into a position where my spirit shall be susceptible to the movings of THE HOLY SPIRIT OF GOD upon my mind and character. And this is the prayer that every one of us may offer. NOTICE: 1) Ellen White spoke of "the power of THE THREE HOLIEST BEINGS IN HEAVEN, who are able to keep you from falling." 2) Ellen White "CALLED UPON [i.e., prayed to] THE THREE GREAT WORTHIES" 3) Ellen White told the Holy Spirit, "YOU KNOW I cannot do this work in my own strength. YOU MUST WORK in me, and by me, and through me..." 4) Ellen White did not use the word "Trinity," but she did use language which shows that she believed in the Trinity as the SDA church teaches it in Fundamental Beliefs 2, 3, 4, 5, as given here: Quote: 2. Trinity:There is one God: Father, Son, and Holy Spirit, a unity of three co-eternal Persons. God is immortal, all-powerful, all-knowing, above all, and ever present. He is infinite and beyond human comprehension, yet known through His self-revelation. He is forever worthy of worship, adoration, and service by the whole creation. (Deut. 6:4; Matt. 28:19; 2 Cor. 13:14; Eph. 4:4-6; 1 Peter 1:2; 1 Tim. 1:17; Rev. 14:7.) 3. Father: God the eternal Father is the Creator, Source, Sustainer, and Sovereign of all creation. He is just and holy, merciful and gracious, slow to anger, and abounding in steadfast love and faithfulness. The qualities and powers exhibited in the Son and the Holy Spirit are also revelations of the Father. (Gen. 1:1; Rev. 4:11; 1 Cor. 15:28; John 3:16; 1 John 4:8; 1 Tim. 1:17; Ex. 34:6, 7; John 14:9.) 4. Son: God the eternal Son became incarnate in Jesus Christ. Through Him all things were created, the character of God is revealed, the salvation of humanity is accomplished, and the world is judged. Forever truly God, He became also truly man, Jesus the Christ. He was conceived of the Holy Spirit and born of the virgin Mary. He lived and experienced temptation as a human being, but perfectly exemplified the righteousness and love of God. By His miracles He manifested God's power and was attested as God's promised Messiah. He suffered and died voluntarily on the cross for our sins and in our place, was raised from the dead, and ascended to minister in the heavenly sanctuary in our behalf. He will come again in glory for the final deliverance of His people and the restoration of all things. (John 1:1-3, 14; Col. 1:15-19; John 10:30; 14:9; Rom. 6:23; 2 Cor. 5:17-19; John 5:22; Luke 1:35; Phil. 2:5-11; Heb. 2:9-18; 1 Cor. 15:3, 4; Heb. 8:1, 2; John 14:1-3.) 5. Holy Spirit: God the eternal Spirit was active with the Father and the Son in Creation, incarnation, and redemption. He inspired the writers of Scripture. He filled Christ's life with power. He draws and convicts human beings; and those who respond He renews and transforms into the image of God. Sent by the Father and the Son to be always with His children, He extends spiritual gifts to the church, empowers it to bear witness to Christ, and in harmony with the Scriptures leads it into all truth. (Gen. 1:1, 2; Luke 1:35; 4:18; Acts 10:38; 2 Peter 1:21; 2 Cor. 3:18; Eph. 4:11, 12; Acts 1:8; John 14:16-18, 26; 15:26, 27; 16:7-13.) See the following link for the development of the doctrine in our church: http://www.ministrymagazine.org/archive/2009/February/the-trinity.html Does any have any disagreements with the facts and views given in the above article? If so, please show documentation that it is in error. Quote John 3:16-17 For God so loved the world, that he gave his only Son, that whoever believes in him should not perish but have eternal life. [17] For God did not send his Son into the world to condemn the world, but in order that the world might be saved through him.
aldona Posted June 5, 2009 Posted June 5, 2009 Quote: 2) Ellen White "CALLED UPON [i.e., prayed to] THE THREE GREAT WORTHIES" That sounds like something that one would find on one of those "Ellen White Uses Masonic Terminology" anti-SDA websites. aldona Quote www.asrc.org.au (Asylum Seeker Resource Centre, Melbourne)Helping over 2000 refugees & asylum seekers each monthIMSLP/Petrucci Music LibraryThe Public Domain Music Score Library - Free Sheet Music DownloadsLooking for classical sheet music? Try IMSLP first!
Moderators John317 Posted June 6, 2009 Author Moderators Posted June 6, 2009 Quote: 2) Ellen White "CALLED UPON [i.e., prayed to] THE THREE GREAT WORTHIES" That sounds like something that one would find on one of those "Ellen White Uses Masonic Terminology" anti-SDA websites. aldona "Call upon" is an expression often found in the Bible, particularly in the Psalms, which refers to prayer to God. It is used of prayer to Christ in 1 Cor. 1: 2. See Ps. 18: 3; 50: 15; 55: 16; 80: 18; 86: 5, 7; 91: 15; 99: 6; 105: 1; 116: 13, 17; 145: 18; Is. 12: 4; 55: 6; Zeph. 3: 9. This is an actual quote from the writings of Ellen White and released by the Ellen G. White Estate, published in two books. The original is in Ms 95, 1906, pp. 8-12, 14-17. Manuscript Releases Volume Seven [Nos. 419-525](1990), page 267, paragraph 2; Chapter Title: MR No. 480 - Reconversion and Rebaptism. Also Sermons and Talks Volume One (1990), page 367, 368. Quote John 3:16-17 For God so loved the world, that he gave his only Son, that whoever believes in him should not perish but have eternal life. [17] For God did not send his Son into the world to condemn the world, but in order that the world might be saved through him.
aldona Posted June 6, 2009 Posted June 6, 2009 Originally Posted By: aldona Quote: 2) Ellen White "CALLED UPON [i.e., prayed to] THE THREE GREAT WORTHIES" That sounds like something that one would find on one of those "Ellen White Uses Masonic Terminology" anti-SDA websites. aldona "Call upon" is an expression often found in the Bible, particularly in the Psalms, which refers to prayer to God. It is used of prayer to Christ in 1 Cor. 1: 2. See Ps. 18: 3; 50: 15; 55: 16; 80: 18; 86: 5, 7; 91: 15; 99: 6; 105: 1; 116: 13, 17; 145: 18; Is. 12: 4; 55: 6; Zeph. 3: 9. This is an actual quote from the writings of Ellen White and released by the Ellen G. White Estate, published in two books. The original is in Ms 95, 1906, pp. 8-12, 14-17. Manuscript Releases Volume Seven [Nos. 419-525](1990), page 267, paragraph 2; Chapter Title: MR No. 480 - Reconversion and Rebaptism. Also Sermons and Talks Volume One (1990), page 367, 368. It wasn't "call upon" that struck my eye, but the idea of the "Three Great Worthies". It is a mental image that would not be out of place in "The Magic Flute" or the Book of Enoch. aldona Quote www.asrc.org.au (Asylum Seeker Resource Centre, Melbourne)Helping over 2000 refugees & asylum seekers each monthIMSLP/Petrucci Music LibraryThe Public Domain Music Score Library - Free Sheet Music DownloadsLooking for classical sheet music? Try IMSLP first!
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