Dr. Shane Posted January 23, 2005 Posted January 23, 2005 Although the Sponge Bob defenders can't admit that cartoons affect children's behavior, Sesame Street has decided a reformed Cookie Monster may have a positive effect of the diets of children. []http://www.clubadventist.com/ubbthreads/attachments/152843-cookiemonster.jpg[/] Quote Pastoral Family Counselor... Find me at www.PostumCafe.com Author of Peculiar Christianity
Nicodema Posted January 23, 2005 Posted January 23, 2005 What's a "Sponge Bob defender"? Sorry, I don't keep up on the doings of cartoon folk these days. I've heard of SpongeBob Squarepants but I have no idea what sort of character he is. What is he doing that adversely impacts kids? So Cookie Monster is now Fruity Monster? Or just Cookie AFTER My Fruit Monster? Quote "After such knowledge, what forgiveness?" -- T.S. Eliot
cricket Posted January 23, 2005 Posted January 23, 2005 Well, 'C' is for cookie and that's still good enough for me! Quote
Nicodema Posted January 23, 2005 Posted January 23, 2005 I like fruit. I also like cookies. Can't we all just get along? Quote "After such knowledge, what forgiveness?" -- T.S. Eliot
Dr. Shane Posted January 23, 2005 Author Posted January 23, 2005 Sister Nico, There are many that insist that our children (and us for that matter) are not affected by what we watch. Forget about the little song that says "Oh be carefule little eyes what you see..." I hear these on the political Right and Left. This past week Dr. James Dobson started critisizing Spongebob Squarepants (after I started the thread on this forum) and suddenlly Spongebob has a host of defenders on both the Left and Right. It is twofold, I believe. 1. Many don't want the entertainment industry censored. I don't refer to government censorship but rather personal censorship. Many just want us to mindlessly watch whatever Hollywood decides they want to feed us. (Despart Housewives is an example) So these folks get upset when anyone critisizes productions of Hollywoood. 2. Many dislike any religious voices in the public arena of thought. Regardless if it is the Pope, Pat Robertson or James Dobson. Anytime a cleric makes a statement about public morality, this group is upset about it. Here we have the folks at Sesame Street (who are liberal-leaning) clearly regognizing the conection between what children watch and what children do. Cookie Monster has been critisized at C/A in the past. Check out the archives in Mrs. Gray's Bountiful Garden. Quote Pastoral Family Counselor... Find me at www.PostumCafe.com Author of Peculiar Christianity
Nicodema Posted January 23, 2005 Posted January 23, 2005 I was just having some fun with the fruit/cookie thing, Shane. I don't think it's so much that people dislike a religious voice in the public arena -- when someone vocalizes genuine spirituality and wisdom it tends to be respected. I know I have to take great care how I vocalize such things, though, so that I don't sound arrogant, unreasonable, self-righteous, overzealous, or unapproachable for rational discourse -- because that's when people tend to recoil the most and listen the least. It's not easy, I'll say that much. Some days I feel like I will never get it right. Quote "After such knowledge, what forgiveness?" -- T.S. Eliot
Peter Posted January 23, 2005 Posted January 23, 2005 Quote: I like fruit. I also like cookies. Can't we all just get along? I think we can find a compromise here. Banana bread Persimmon cookies Strawberry shakes Date Shakes Mango shakes Strawberry shortcake Fruit smoothies. Oh yeah. We can have the best of both worlds. Quote
Neil D Posted January 23, 2005 Posted January 23, 2005 Quote: Quote: I like fruit. I also like cookies. Can't we all just get along? I think we can find a compromise here. Banana bread Persimmon cookies Strawberry shakes Date Shakes Mango shakes Strawberry shortcake Fruit smoothies. Oh yeah. We can have the best of both worlds. [Reverend Neil Mode-on] A compromise with the world is a compromise with the devil! Here is a blended example of compromising with the devil. The God given fruits and vegetables that are healthy and good for you, and adulterating them with the sweet cookies that slowly clog your arteries, slow the blood to the brain, benumbed with the demon tainted sugar that turns into alcohol and destroys the good God ordained cells of the brain. Folks , repent, repent! REPEnT! from those vile and evil ways.... [Reverend Neil mode-off] Quote Democracy is a device that ensures we shall be governed no better than we deserve. George Bernard Shaw
Peter Posted January 24, 2005 Posted January 24, 2005 NeilD Aw Neil. Those are comfort foods. Even the sugar comes from Gods gifts to us. Sugar cane and Sugar Beets. Shoot even Dates and honey are Gods gifts to us. If God never meant for us to have anything sweet why did He create fruit and dates and sugar cane and sugar beets and honey. Even those foods with sugar cannot make us fat IF taken in moderation. If we eat to much of it then yes they can be harmful. Even water if taken to much to often is harmful to us. It dilutes the salt in the body and can cause harmful side effects over the long term. So should we avoid water because it can harm us if taken in large quatities over a period of time. See my point. Moderation of sugars is not harmful if taken in small quantities. Quote
Nicodema Posted January 24, 2005 Posted January 24, 2005 Quote: Quote: I like fruit. I also like cookies. Can't we all just get along? I think we can find a compromise here. Banana bread Persimmon cookies Strawberry shakes Date Shakes Mango shakes Strawberry shortcake Fruit smoothies. Oh yeah. We can have the best of both worlds. Mmmmmmmm .... that's it, I'm coming down there RIGHT NOW ... Quote "After such knowledge, what forgiveness?" -- T.S. Eliot
Dr. Shane Posted January 24, 2005 Author Posted January 24, 2005 </font><blockquote><font class="small">Quote:</font><hr /> when someone vocalizes genuine spirituality and wisdom it tends to be respected. <hr /></blockquote><font class="post"> The Bible says that to the carnel mind, spiritual things are foolishness. So it seems. Quote Pastoral Family Counselor... Find me at www.PostumCafe.com Author of Peculiar Christianity
Nicodema Posted January 24, 2005 Posted January 24, 2005 Why thank you Shane, I love you too. Quote "After such knowledge, what forgiveness?" -- T.S. Eliot
Planey Posted January 24, 2005 Posted January 24, 2005 Quote: If God never meant for us to have anything sweet why did He create fruit and dates and sugar cane and sugar beets and honey. If God never meant for us to get stoned why did He create cannabis? If God never meant for us to get drunk why did he create fermentation? If God never meant for us to get high why did He create opium poppies? This is a good game... Graeme Quote Graeme____________________________________________________________________________________________________________
Moderators LynnDel Posted January 24, 2005 Moderators Posted January 24, 2005 Graeme, Several conflicting thoughts: 1. God gave us the opportunity to make choices and learn from the results. He knew that we would need to learn self control and moderation. 2. Some might argue that the "bad" things came in at the same time roses started growing thorns, so is God responsible for drunkenness? 3. There is likely a God-given purpose for things which we use inappropriately. For instance, fermentation is part of decomposition, and in this world decomposition is part of the cycle of life. That's one of the things I am anxious to know about heaven - What will my compost pile look like? What about my cactus garden? LD Quote LD
Nicodema Posted January 24, 2005 Posted January 24, 2005 Tagging on here ... I liked Bevin's take on another thread elsewhere on the board, where he said that for some reason it seemed that in order to have a sin-free universe forever, there had to be the knowledge of sin from a transient period of a universe with sin in it. (I may be unintentionally misquoting here in my paraphrase so don't jump on Bevin over it!) Makes sense to me -- goes with LynnDel's #1 above and her #3 reflects some of my own thinking in addition to these ideas. Quote "After such knowledge, what forgiveness?" -- T.S. Eliot
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