A Special Appeal From the GC President to all Adventist Institutions

[CGMedley]

The General Conference president recently made a special appeal to all Adventist institutions to return to biblical foundations of creationism. You can read the appeal in this weeks Adventist Review.

http://www.adventistreview.org/index.php

[olger]

"Faith is certainly not subject to the findings of science."

yes yes,

g

[BobRyan]

The General Conference president recently made a special appeal to all Adventist institutions to return to biblical foundations of creationism. You can read the appeal in this weeks Adventist Review.

http://www.adventistreview.org/index.php

I found a lot of health articles at that link but nothing on creationism. What did I miss?

in Christ,

Bob

[olger]

lower right hand column..

blessins

g

[BobRyan]

I appreciate what Paulsen has done there in requiring our science teachers to affirm the science behind creationism - and contrast what is affirmed as truth - vs the junk-science models and methods of evolutionism.

Paulsen quotes the official position of the denomination

Quote:

• "We strongly endorse the document's affirmation of our historic, biblical position of belief in a literal, recent, six-day Creation. • We urge that the document, accompanied by this response, be disseminated widely throughout the world Seventh-day Adventist Church, using all available communication channels and in the major languages of world membership.

• We reaffirm the Seventh-day Adventist understanding of the historicity of Genesis 1-11: that the seven days of the Creation account were literal 24-hour days forming a week identical in time to what we now experience as a week; and that the Flood was global in nature.

• We call on all boards and educators at Seventh-day Adventist institutions at all levels to continue upholding and advocating the church's position on origins. We, along with Seventh-day Adventist parents, expect students to receive a thorough, balanced, and scientifically rigorous exposure to and affirmation of our historic belief in a literal, recent six-day creation, even as they are educated to understand and assess competing philosophies of origins that dominate scientific discussion in the contemporary world.

• We urge church leaders throughout the world to seek ways to educate members, especially young people attending non-Seventh-day Adventist schools, in the issues involved in the doctrine of creation.

• We call on all members of the worldwide Seventh-day Adventist family to proclaim and teach the church's understanding of the biblical doctrine of Creation, living in its light, rejoicing in our status as sons and daughters of God, and praising our Lord Jesus Christ--our Creator and Redeemer."

Notice that it is not just "mentioning" our doctrine on creation - but AFFIRMING and also teaching the science evidence for creation - as well as exposing the gaffs, frauds, blunders and junk-science of evolutionist mythology.

Paulsen adds his own patoral advice to Godly Bible-believing science teachers.

To those who teach at our colleges and universities, let me say that you have a demanding, often difficult, but sacred assignment. It is a ministry you hold in trust. It is understood that to care for your ministry responsibly you have to take your students on many a journey of findings into various disciplines of study. They need to know what they will meet in their profession and in life. As part of that exercise you will also expose them to the elements and concepts of evolution. That is understood.

As your pastor, however, I appeal to you that when you take your students out on the journey, you bring them safely back home before the day is over. And their home must always be in the world of faith. You owe it to the students, you owe it to God, you owe it to their parents, you owe it to the church, and you owe it to yourself as a believer to safely guide them through difficult moments on their journey.

This appeal comes with the greatest respect for your integrity and your professional skills. But you are also my sister and brother in faith, and we share a common commitment to God to whom we shall ultimately bring the fruits of our labor. I pray that he will give to each of us the strength that accompanies faithfulness.

Sadly as we have seen on some of these boards -- there is not "bringing them safely back home" and there is no "safely guiding" the students by some of our own science teachers who have sold out to the atheist principles of evolutionism.

in Christ,

Bob

[BobRyan]

Here we have a link on this board where the work of a respected scientist and science professor, former evolutionist - is being highlighted as he does the very thing that Pastor Paulsen is promoting.

http://clubadventist.com/forum/ubbthread...html#Post251743

Curious to see how some of our SDA evolutionists will respond to an actual scientist who exposes the flaws in evolutionism while promoting the science facts in harmony with scripture.

in Christ,

Bob

[BobRyan]

I think it will be facinating to see how our evolutionist posters reject Paulsen's recommendations.

Now what I want to know is - what will the Bible believing SDA parents do -- send their youth off to evolutionist-promoting SDA institutions, or send them to a local non-SDA evolutionist institution where the kids know what to expect - know they are going to get atheist mumbo jumbo and know to put up a barrier against those myths -- while living at home?

Or maybe they just select one of the few SDA institutions NOT teaching evolutionism as the perferred solution and avoid the others.

It will be interesting to see how it works out

[Outta Here]

Homeschooling has always been the way to go!

[Felix Florimon]

Originally Posted By: CGMedley

The General Conference president recently made a special appeal to all Adventist institutions to return to biblical foundations of creationism. You can read the appeal in this weeks Adventist Review.

http://www.adventistreview.org/index.php

I found a lot of health articles at that link but nothing on creationism. What did I miss?

in Christ,

Bob

Just click at this link:

http://www.adventistreview.org/article.php?id=2664

[BobRyan]

I think it will be facinating to see how our evolutionist posters reject Paulsen's recommendations.

Now what I want to know is - what will the Bible believing SDA parents do -- send their youth off to evolutionist-promoting SDA institutions, or send them to a local non-SDA evolutionist institution where the kids know what to expect - know they are going to get atheist mumbo jumbo and know to put up a barrier against those myths -- while living at home?

Or maybe they just select one of the few SDA institutions NOT teaching evolutionism as the perferred solution and avoid the others.

It will be interesting to see how it works out

[Bravus]

Are there evolutionists posting here regularly? Care to name some? One?

[BobRyan]

Is this Bravus asking if we see him post in favor of evolutionism on the Origins subject thread?? Is this the "same Bravus" that we see on the Origins subject thread???

[Bravus]

I have *repeatedly* said that I have no firm position on origins. I *explain* evolutionary theory when it is wrongly described, but this does not mean I *adopt* that theory. I have been very, very clear, numerous times, in stating my position.

[BobRyan]

So in your editing/contributing to those books on evolutionism is it in the form "of course we are not sure if this is true or not - we just like telling the story"???

[Bravus]

Um, no books on evolution. Books on science - which includes evolution. Which happens to be the best current theory available, in a scientific context, for explaining our observations in the world. Stating that clearly is not the same as believing it to be the truth... all scientific theories are subject to test and falsification based on the evidence.

[carolaa]

Amen to that! Neither creationism nor evolutionism can be proved.

[olger]

Are there evolutionists posting here regularly? Care to name some? One?

Shhhh..

The gopher just poked his head up out of the hole...

[BobRyan]

Um, no books on evolution. Books on science - which includes evolution.

Hmm - so that is what you mean by a balanced promotion of both Creation and evolutionism on your part???

So let's see - in that case the evolution part we see in your text above -- I guess the "Creation" part is what you are calling "science" then -- in your "balanced" view.

OK -- I am starting to see what you mean -- but then we all have to remember when you talk about science you mean creationism - and when you talk about "including evolution" you mean evolution being mixed in with it -- as your style of "I am not an evolutionist".

Twicky wabbit.

in Christ,

Bob

[BobRyan]

Creation is at its basics a belief system based on the Bible.

Now see - some times you can approach accuracy - no need to fear it.

Evolutionism is a religious system based on the atheist montra "there is no God". This is "proven" in the way that atheist-tending evolutionists attack other Evolutionists that admit to finding "Intelligent Design" EVEN in cases where that design threatens the deeply held religious views of atheists who insist that there can be NO designer.

When Christians observe a heavens and an earth created by God -- that is not a "funny kind of proof" that there really is no "heavens or earth".

When the godless pagans of Romans 1 "see clearly the invisible attributes of God in the things that HAVE BEEN MADE" -- it is not because godless pagans a really "believing Christians" when you look closely -- rather it is because ALL mankind is "without excuse" that "pretends" not to "notice the obvious" in what is SEEN to have been MADE.

in Christ,

Bob

[oldsailor29]

Some evolutionists believe there is a god, but that god is finite and just more evolved than they. They believe god is more advanced on the evolutionary scale, and some day they will be like him. We know where this belief came from because this is what the snake said to Eve.

[fccool]

Honestly, I think this should be the least of our worries right now... especially for the local churches.

[carolaa]

The church as an institution has to worry about this. Without the belief in a literal, six day creation, it is difficult to make a strong case for the seventh-day Sabbath.

[BobRyan]

Ellen White is pretty good about pointing to that problem.

So it is not to suprising that the President of the GC also notices the problem.

Anybody read Angel Rodriguez' article where he says not to send kids to an SDA College that teaches evolutionism?

He seems to argue that such a school would be hard to find - but if confirmed that this is the case - we should not send our young adults to that school.

Question - after the 1994 survey -- how in the world could he imagine that those schools would be so hard to find? He seems to suppose that only a few professors -- here or there might be apostatizing in favor of evoluitonism as their "belief" on the subject of "origins".

in Christ,

Bob

[BobRyan]

Some evolutionists believe there is a god, but that god is finite and just more evolved than they. They believe god is more advanced on the evolutionary scale, and some day they will be like him. We know where this belief came from because this is what the snake said to Eve.

While it is true that some evolutionists believe in a god of some kind -- (just not one that puts accuracy into scripture or that created a trustworthy account of His work in creation), many more do not believe that you can even SEE or DETECT the influence/sign that God has any intelligence at all - based on looking at what He actually did.

Innexplicably they go to the atheist's extreme of fighting even the notion that Creation SHOWS that the Creator has "intelligence".

When looking at a painting sometimes critics will say that a given painting shows that the creator of that work was truly "brilliant". But there are to be found theistic-evolutionists who argue AGAINST the work of God SHOWING that God has intelligence -- yes EVEN within our own denomination!!

How can someone possibly get so turned around?

Seems hard to even believe - if I had not seen it with my own eyes.

in Christ,

Bob

[BobRyan]

The church as an institution has to worry about this. Without the belief in a literal, six day creation, it is difficult to make a strong case for the seventh-day Sabbath.

Agreed - it undermines our entire doctrinal contribution to the Christian timeline.

in Christ,

Bob