Guest truthseeker007 Posted July 1, 2009 Posted July 1, 2009 I am stoned right now so i am going to tell the truth; - i am a loser - i am dumb - i am foolish - i am worthless - i am friendless - i am useless - i am depressed - i am tired - i am abandoned - i am mentally raped are these the fruits of the holy spirit? Quote
Woody Posted July 2, 2009 Posted July 2, 2009 I am stoned right now so i am going to tell the truth; - i am a loser - i am dumb - i am foolish - i am worthless - i am friendless - i am useless - i am depressed - i am tired - i am abandoned - i am mentally raped are these the fruits of the holy spirit? No. But it is the fruit of being on this earth. One day soon ... your pain will be over and we will all be living eternally with Jesus. No more pain. No more sorrow. Hang in there Truthseeker007 Quote May we be one so that the world may be won. Christian from the cradle to the grave I believe in Hematology.
carolaa Posted July 2, 2009 Posted July 2, 2009 That's really sad, truthseeker, and I'm sorry it's so hard for you right now. Try to remember that God sees past all that to the real you deep inside, and He claims you as His beloved child. Quote
Moderators Gerr Posted July 2, 2009 Moderators Posted July 2, 2009 I have followed several of threads that you have started. May I be frank and say this as kindly as any Christian brother would? You need a Christian counselor urgently. Quote
Musicman1228 Posted July 2, 2009 Posted July 2, 2009 I agree with Gerry whole heartedly that you need Christian counseling or therapy. My wife is a Licensed Clinical Social Worker and familiar with the causes of these kinds of feelings; they are real and the need to be dealt with RIGHT NOW. This sounds medical as well as clinical so seek help ASAP. I will pray for you. Remember that no one that was created by God as you were is worthless. Quote
olger Posted July 2, 2009 Posted July 2, 2009 From a counselor, I must agree that you would benefit from one. Is there any pain that you are trying to cover with drugs? better days, g Quote "Please don't feed the drama queens.."
Administrators Gail Posted July 2, 2009 Administrators Posted July 2, 2009 I am stoned right now so i am going to tell the truth; - i am a loser - i am dumb - i am foolish - i am worthless - i am friendless - i am useless - i am depressed - i am tired - i am abandoned - i am mentally raped are these the fruits of the holy spirit? You are not friendless, TS. You are here, and we are here. We are your friends You are at a place where you would see your need for a Saviour. There are many out there who are too proud to see their need and Jesus cannot help them. Having said this, I agree with the professionals that have already posted in this thread. Jesus has His helpers on earth- may you find someone trained to help emotional pain. In the meantime, know that you are loved here Will continue to pray for you, too! ((((( TS ))))) Quote Isaiah 32:17 And the work of righteousness shall be peace; and the effect of righteousness quietness and assurance for ever.
oldsailor29 Posted July 2, 2009 Posted July 2, 2009 I am stoned right now so i am going to tell the truth; - i am a loser - i am dumb - i am foolish - i am worthless - i am friendless - i am useless - i am depressed - i am tired - i am abandoned - i am mentally raped are these the fruits of the holy spirit? It sounds like you are alone. My advice would be to pray for help from God, look for some companionship, and stop getting stoned alone. The fruits of the Holy Spirit are love, joy, peace, patience, gentleness, goodness, faith, meekness, temperance, and such. Galatians 5:22,23. Quote Prs God, frm whm blssngs flw http://www.zoelifestyle.com/jmccall
BobRyan Posted July 2, 2009 Posted July 2, 2009 I am stoned right now so i am going to tell the truth; - i am a loser - i am dumb - i am foolish - i am worthless - i am friendless - i am useless - i am depressed - i am tired - i am abandoned - i am mentally raped are these the fruits of the holy spirit? Nope. Sounds like recreational anesthesia is not all it is cracked up to be. If you drink poison - and then get sick, the key is "stop drinking poison". There is no amount of nice talking that is going to change that basic fact of life. My brother once crawled under the sink when he was 3 and drank some "cleaner" with Lye in it. When we found out we "coulda" just talked nice to him for a few days and wait to see what happened. But instead - my mother hit the ceiling and rushed him to the emergency room where he was subjected to the very unpleasant experience of having his stomach pumped to save his life. Wow -- talk about not having fun and "low" self-esteem! Still - if you talk to him today - he does not begrudge our mother any of that hit-the-ceiling high-anxiety rush-to-the-doctor intervention. In fact - he even seems "thankful". God will do that same thing for us if ask - and if that is what it takes for us to each one stop drinking poison. in Christ, Bob Quote John 8:32 - The Truth will make you free“The righteousness of Christ will not cover one cherished sin." COL 316.
Members phkrause Posted July 3, 2009 Members Posted July 3, 2009 TS, you know as well as I that those are not the fruits of the HS. Most of us have been or are in the same boat. This world has so many obstacles, so your not alone. Like I've mentioned to you on many occasions, you are being prayed for and never forget who loves you? God that's who! pk Quote phkrause When the righteous are in authority, the people rejoice; But when a wicked man rules, the people groan. Proverbs 29;2
Guest truthseeker007 Posted July 9, 2009 Posted July 9, 2009 I know i need help. I am talking so much with myself inside my head that sometimes i can have spontaneous conversations with myself. It s scary to have a part of you suddenly speaking and suggesting things like it s from some sort of external source. I am afraid to go crazy sometimes. I have nowhere to go, except this place. Please pray for me, i need your prayers. I am such a worthless being, why would God want to invest in me? i am the most stupid being alive... Quote
Administrators Gail Posted July 9, 2009 Administrators Posted July 9, 2009 TS- the fact that you are concerned about this is evidence that God has not forsaken you. His Holy Spirit is also working on your heart. I'm glad that you come here to chat with us, your friends. It helps to get some feedback from someone who is not distressed. You have more than just your own thoughts to communicate with! Hang on to the hope that God IS working with you. As you pray to Him for guidance and ask questions from those here who are at peace, you will gain answers. ((((( Truthseeker ))))) Quote Isaiah 32:17 And the work of righteousness shall be peace; and the effect of righteousness quietness and assurance for ever.
True-believer Posted July 10, 2009 Posted July 10, 2009 Hang in there truthseeker You are not worthless and you are not stupid. YOU ARE A CHILD OF THE KING TRUTHSEEKER You are to the praise of God's glory--we all are--we belong to Him. We are all priests in God's eyes. Truthseeker--you are so valuable and precious to us and to God. Quote Luke 4:19To preach the acceptable year of the Lord.
Members phkrause Posted July 13, 2009 Members Posted July 13, 2009 Your not any stupider than I am! pk Quote phkrause When the righteous are in authority, the people rejoice; But when a wicked man rules, the people groan. Proverbs 29;2
True-believer Posted July 13, 2009 Posted July 13, 2009 Your not any stupider than I am! pk Pkrause... You are not stupid either... we are loved very much by our Lord Jesus. Quote Luke 4:19To preach the acceptable year of the Lord.
Members phkrause Posted July 13, 2009 Members Posted July 13, 2009 Your right, I believe that EGW tells us that Jesus does not like it when we call ourselves stupid or any other thing. I believe it was her, maybe someone else can tell us if this is true. pk Quote phkrause When the righteous are in authority, the people rejoice; But when a wicked man rules, the people groan. Proverbs 29;2
Richard Holbrook Posted July 13, 2009 Posted July 13, 2009 truthseeker, You stated your condition, and you asked for prayers. That is not stupid. I have prayed for you, and I'm sure the others have too. Now you pray and ask God to give you the desire to quit the pot smoking. It's pretty hard to give up if you don't really want to, I know, because I smoked it for years. I used to think it made me play my guitar better. I also drank like a fish. One night after drinking non stop for several days, I had become sick and couldn't get the alcohol to stay down anymore. I asked God to help me. I didn't know that I would start reading my Bible and spending quiet time with God everyday, I just knew I needed help. But that is what I did and still do. It's a daily thing. If I start my day off that way, it put's me in the right frame of mind, and there is a joy and a peace of mind that comes as a by product. Give it a try. Ask for the willingness, because this too comes from God. .....Let us know how you are doing. God will do for you, what you can't do for your self. Quote
Ted Oplinger Posted July 14, 2009 Posted July 14, 2009 I know i need help. I am talking so much with myself inside my head that sometimes i can have spontaneous conversations with myself. It s scary to have a part of you suddenly speaking and suggesting things like it s from some sort of external source. I am afraid to go crazy sometimes. I have nowhere to go, except this place. Please pray for me, i need your prayers. I am such a worthless being, why would God want to invest in me? i am the most stupid being alive... This post alone tells me you are not beyond hope. You're at where I was 30 years ago - except I didn't have a good group of friends to appeal to like you do here. Number 1 - you are NOT worthless. Your value is that which you read about in each Gospel - that of the Cross. He did this while seeing you as you are now. He loves you that much - so you cannot be worthless. Number 2 - God invest Himself in you simply because He looked through time and saw you, stoned, sitting in front of your computer and writing your feelings about your experience right now. His same reason for you is the same He had for me when I was wasting my life away with booze and drugs as well. Number 3 - you're reaching out, and know what you're doing isn't quite what the Lord has in mind about the abundant life. You are most definitely NOT stupid. I will be praying for you. My short testimony - when I was at where you are now, it took me a while to come to the Lord with my frailty. I prayed for the Word to be free from the desire for intoxicants. Seemed like my prayers just hit the ceiling for months. Continued praying. And praying. When I was at my lowest, I tried what I thought was so very presumptious - I believed His word was true for even a sinner as myself, and would actually set me free - and it did. The next day I had no appetite for the stuff - and have been free to serve for over 24 years since. If He cared for me that much, He cares for you to. Hang in there, friend. Quote "As iron sharpens iron, so also does one man sharpen another" - Proverbs 27:17 "The offense of the cross is that the cross is a confession of human frailty and sin and of inability to do any good thing. To take the cross of Christ means to depend solely on Him for everything, and this is the abasement of all human pride. Men love to fancy themselves independent. But let the cross be preached, let it be made known that in man dwells no good thing and that all must be received as a gift, and straightway someone is offended." Ellet J. Waggoner, The Glad Tidings "Courage is being scared to death - and saddling up anyway" - John Wayne "The person who pays an ounce of principle for a pound of popularity gets badly cheated" - Ronald Reagan
Guest truthseeker007 Posted July 17, 2009 Posted July 17, 2009 I ve been defeated. I don t like the gospel anymore. They say you are saved by grace, but in fact you are saved by the law, good works and grace. I will never achieve this standard of living. I tried very hard and sincerely, But it was a waste of time. I fail to meet up to the law everytime. So i just give up, furthermore God doesn t answer my prayers. Yesterday i went to the hookers, but i got a girlfriend so i changed my mind. To me christianity is the biggest joke in the universe. It not only causes division and bloodshed, also it is impossible to be saved, ironically that s the main theme of christianity. God doesn t want us, any of us, maybe some of us. He picks and chooses his favorite people and award them with everlasting life, at the same time he makes it appear that whosoever believes in him will have everlasting life. The cross was probably a face-saving device towards the rest of the universe. The uprising of the devil is pure evil and probably a mixture of selfish motives and the conviction that God is not righteous. I disagree with the selfish motives but i agree on the fact that God cannot be righteous. If he were righteous he would have created robots that act just like people to see what happens when we abandon the law. AHh well i am glad that soon it will be all over. Quote
Richard Holbrook Posted July 17, 2009 Posted July 17, 2009 Robots couldn't choose to love him. What good would that be? You have made Satan very happy today. He has a good grip on you and he knows it. His next step will be to try and destroy you while you are in your sins. His grip can still be broken though. The slightest bit of willingness will open the door. Quote
Richard Holbrook Posted July 17, 2009 Posted July 17, 2009 He died for you just like he did for me. The choice is yours. Except the gift and He will do the work. Quote
Members phkrause Posted July 17, 2009 Members Posted July 17, 2009 ts007, you are allowing satan to talk to you and not the HS. Only you can make that choice TS. Why is it you don't seek out a christian counselor and speak with him or her? pk Quote phkrause When the righteous are in authority, the people rejoice; But when a wicked man rules, the people groan. Proverbs 29;2
Moderators John317 Posted July 17, 2009 Moderators Posted July 17, 2009 Hey "truth-seeker," We can talk to you and try to give you advice, but we can't really help you here, as much as we want to. You need intensive counseling and that has to be in person with someone who knows your problems better than we can know them. There are things going on in your life that we can't possibly deal with. I think your biggest problem is spiritual but you doubtless also have other issues that must be dealt with. Quote John 3:16-17 For God so loved the world, that he gave his only Son, that whoever believes in him should not perish but have eternal life. [17] For God did not send his Son into the world to condemn the world, but in order that the world might be saved through him.
True-believer Posted July 18, 2009 Posted July 18, 2009 I ve been defeated. I don t like the gospel anymore. They say you are saved by grace, but in fact you are saved by the law, good works and grace. I will never achieve this standard of living. I tried very hard and sincerely, But it was a waste of time. I fail to meet up to the law everytime. So i just give up, furthermore God doesn t answer my prayers. Yesterday i went to the hookers, but i got a girlfriend so i changed my mind. To me christianity is the biggest joke in the universe. It not only causes division and bloodshed, also it is impossible to be saved, ironically that s the main theme of christianity. God doesn t want us, any of us, maybe some of us. He picks and chooses his favorite people and award them with everlasting life, at the same time he makes it appear that whosoever believes in him will have everlasting life. The cross was probably a face-saving device towards the rest of the universe. The uprising of the devil is pure evil and probably a mixture of selfish motives and the conviction that God is not righteous. I disagree with the selfish motives but i agree on the fact that God cannot be righteous. If he were righteous he would have created robots that act just like people to see what happens when we abandon the law. AHh well i am glad that soon it will be all over. Truthseeker007, Your right, you should just give up, you can not do this all on your own. You need to ask the Holy Spirit through Jesus Christ to help you. Just stop doing things in your own strength, and rely on the strength that Jesus wants to give you. Philippines 3:19 i think??? Truthseeker, YOU can do ALL things through Jesus Christ who strengtherns YOU. Philippines 4:4, Truthseeker, Rejoice in the Lord always, again I say, REJOICE. Quote Luke 4:19To preach the acceptable year of the Lord.
Members phkrause Posted July 18, 2009 Members Posted July 18, 2009 Good advice true-believer. pk Quote phkrause When the righteous are in authority, the people rejoice; But when a wicked man rules, the people groan. Proverbs 29;2
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