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January 27, 2005

Buried deep within the No Child Left Behind Act is the requirement that the schools turn over a list of all students' names and addresses to the government so they will be recruited for military service!!

If the schools don't turn over these names, they risk losing their government subsidies.

[uNbelievable!!]

http://www.motherjones.com/news/outfront/2002/11/ma_153_01.html

January 27, 2005

Oh the scandel!!!

January 27, 2005

One more reason to homeschool your children.

You might want to take a look at this also:

http://www.newswithviews.com/DeWeese/tom6.htm

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Yes, your child may have courses called math, science, literature, geography and civics, but those courses are full of globalist myth and its source is UN programs like UNESCO’s “Education for All” curriculum. It starts there and is filtered into American classrooms through “consistent” programs like “No Child Left Behind.”

January 27, 2005

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Oh the scandel!!!

Oh the sarcasm.

I've got some more (sarcasm) to offer, if anyone wants a little ... think about how many of those that crusade against abortion crusade just as hard in favor of war, and some even in favor of compulsory conscription because that's what a good patriot does, offers up his life to his country no matter what boneheads (literally ... as in "Skull And ..") are running it.

That's right: the real message is: everyone save the unborn fetuses NOW so they can be cannon fodder in 18 years.

[Disclaimer: post is intended tongue-in-cheek as biting humor only. It is NOT offered up as a genuine characterisation of anyone's position NOR as a catalyst for serious debate. Those who don't get this will be ignored! ]

January 27, 2005

Excuse me but exactly what is a "globalist myth"? Is that any curriculum that fails to reinforce nationalist myths?

... is [:"#CB1c79"]Acts 17:26-28[/] a "globalist myth?"

January 27, 2005

You miss one major point. In this oh-so-terrible war we have lost less than 1,000 American each year. Abortion claimed the lives of over 1 million in the same period of time.

How can one be upset over the 1,000 lost to defend the nation and not be concerned at all for the 1 million plus lost so someone didn't have to get a big belly and be inconvienced for a few months?

Oh, the hypocracy of the Left!!!

January 27, 2005

From what I understand, it's behavior modification. Rather than individual beliefs and rights being encouraged, a globalist agenda is being pushed. The children are being trained to "tow the line" rather than be individual thinkers. They are also being screened for mental health, those who don't have the personality of sheep must be pinpointed and worked with.

I saw first hand evidence of this stuff before I yanked my daughters out of public school. Have you ever looked into the curriculums used in the schools now?

http://www.newswithviews.com/Cappadona/heidi.htm

January 27, 2005

In the minds of some...

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(CNSNews.com) - President Bush can protect Social Security by "curing" abortion, a pro-life group says.

The American Life League is running a full-page newspaper ad in Thursday's Washington Times, explaining that since 1973, more than 50 million babies have been killed through abortion.

"Those are the very babies that, today, would be living, working -- and paying into Social Security," said Judie Brown, president of American Life League. "However, the national plague of abortion has eliminated those contributors from society."

http://www.cnsnews.com/ViewCulture.asp?Page=%5CCulture%5Carchive%5C200501%5CCUL20050113a.html

January 27, 2005

Some food for thought:

Chester M. Pierce, M.D.,Professor of Education and Psychiatry at Harvard"

"Every child in America entering school at the age of five is mentally ill because he comes to school with certain allegiances to our Founding Fathers-- toward our elected officials-- toward his parents-- toward a belief in a supernatural being-- and toward the sovereignty of this nation as a separate entity. It’s up to you as teachers to make all these sick children well – by creating the international child of the future."

Abraham Lincoln:

"The philosophy of the schoolroom in one generation will be the philosophy of government in the next."

Dr. James Dobson:

"Children are the prize to the winners- of the second great civil war. Those who control what young people are taught and what they experience – what they see, hear, think, and believe – will determine the future course for the nation. Given that influence, the predominate value system of an entire culture can be overhauled in one generation, or certainly in two, by those with unlimited access to our children."

Adolph Hitler:

"Let me control the textbooks, and I will control the state."

"When an opponent declares, ‘I will not come over to your side’, ‘I calmly say, your child belongs to us already … what are you? You will pass on. Your descendants, however, now stand in the new camp, in a short time they will know nothing else but this new community." This new Reich will give to youth its own education and its own upbringing."

Lenin:

"Give me your four year olds, and in a generation I will build a Socialist state."

January 27, 2005

The globalist agenda is discribed in Revelation 17 as we move from the 6th head to the 7th head.

Once again a review of the 7 parts of Daniel 2 and the 7 heads of Revelation 13:

1. Babylon

2. Medio-Persia

3. Greece

4. Rome

5. Feet of Iron and clay (i.e. a church state) Papal supremicy/Holy Roman empire

6. Toes of Iron and clay/ the deadly wound: no world empire but a period of independent nations

7. World unification through economic cooperation, helped by the two horned beast encouraging the whole world to worship the beast (not necessarly the 5th head of the beast) and demonic actvity such as Satan counterfiting Jesus'coming to encourage this antichrist system. The issue of Sunday Laws is how Mrs. White predicts that the way this system seems to support morality, but in a way that will not work and will trample upon other's rights, will make this system appeal to conservative Christians.

Due to fact that the reformers were living under the 5th head, we as Seventh-day Adventists are in danger of looking only at the 5th head and seeing that as the whole beast, and thus while focusing on that one head, the other heads wrap around us and the 7th head attack from another dirrection where we are not guarded. And are we sure that we have the proper perspective of Sunday Laws that Mrs. White gives, and that we have not built myths around that issue to place it in a new perspective that we are waiting for this myth of how we expect it to happen, and thus end up missing it when it comes? (while the more liberal among us are in danger of throwing out the 5th head all together and thus missing the lessons it gives us in prepration for the 7th head.)

January 27, 2005

That's an excellent display of current issues in a prophetic scenario. Thank you.

January 27, 2005

Shane, some women should not be having children. What about those drug moms who have 10 babies and expect their relatives to care fo them or they end up in foster care? And the tax payers (us) end up supporting these kids!!Those children suffer from life-long disabilities, too.

How about if we sterilize those types of women in the first place, then we won't have to be so worried about abortion.

You never do answer my questions on abortion, so I won't be surprised when you don't respond much. I am not pro-abortion, just pro-choice. I believe also that kids should be taught abstinence to prevent unwanted pregnancies.

And I also believe not all babies were meant to be born. Try to open your mind to that concept. Have you ever witnessed the suffering of a 23 week premie? You never answered that question before.

Kim

January 27, 2005

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some women should not be having children. What about those drug moms who have 10 babies

Sounds a bit like Hitler

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How about if we sterilize those types of women in the first place, then we won't have to be so worried about abortion.

Why don't we just kill them before they get pregnant? I mean if murder doesn't bother you and you consider them scum of society, why not just get rid of them?

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I am not pro-abortion, just pro-choice.

Nice play on words but I can see through that rheteric. Pro-choice means you believe women should have the right to kill. Kind of like 007. Are you a James Bond fan?

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I believe also that kids should be taught abstinence to prevent unwanted pregnancies

I favor abstinence education too.

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And I also believe not all babies were meant to be born. Try to open your mind to that concept.

Interesting you refer to them as babies. At least we agree on that. Life inside the womb is a baby. I believe that mothers have a responsability to protect their babies and not murder them. That is why I am pro-life and not pro-death.

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Have you ever witnessed the suffering of a 23 week premie?

No I haven't. However most abortions are performed on babies that wouldn't be premies.

January 28, 2005

This is not off topic, YOU brought up your favorite topic, again, abortion.

I know 23 week premies are not aborted, but I brought that up because you are also against letting suffering babies die.

I'm dropping it. It's not worth my time. If you want to support all the drug moms having babies, go ahead. You should also try to find them housing while you're at it.

Kim

January 28, 2005

A fetus cannot live outside of the womb, so it is not the same type of baby that is capable of living after it is born...depending on the age.

You need to

post abortion topics in a different area.

Kim

January 28, 2005

No, I am not like Hitler, and I don't appreciate the insult.

I am just a working US citizen that does not believe in supporting people's drug habits and unwanted babies.

Kim

January 28, 2005

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, YOU brought up your favorite topic, again, abortion.

No, Sister Nico brought it up.

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That's right: the real message is: everyone save the unborn fetuses NOW so they can be cannon fodder in 18 years.

January 28, 2005

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No, I am not like Hitler, and I don't appreciate the insult.

You favor aborting the children of drug addicts. Explain to me how that is different than Hitler. Hitler tried to rid the world of what he thought to be society's scum. You have the same idea only instead of Jews you believe the children of drug addicts need to be eliminated.

I value all life. Yes, the unborn child of the President's daughter is just as valuable as the unborn child of a crack addict with 10 kids already. Christ knows each child before the child is even concieved. Each of us is as unique as our DNA. There is no human trash as far as I am concerned. Hitler was wrong and so are those that think like him.

Nico agrues that we should murder over 1 million babies each year so that 1,000 of them cannot later die defending the nation from terrorist who want to kill us. The fact is that abortion claims more lives than terrorism.

January 28, 2005

Shane, I don't think Kim's in favor of aborting babies, she is advocating that the women who are irresponsible and cause untold suffering to their own children cease procreating.

Birth control would suffice.

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Nico agrues that we should murder over 1 million babies each year so that 1,000 of them cannot later die defending the nation from terrorist who want to kill us.

I didn't see Nico was arguing that, either.

January 28, 2005

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Oh, the hypocracy of the Left!!!

Cry me a river, Shane -- "the Left" is not my problem. I am neither "the Left's" spokesperson nor am I responsible for what "the Left" does.

January 28, 2005

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From what I understand, it's behavior modification. Rather than individual beliefs and rights being encouraged, a globalist agenda is being pushed. The children are being trained to "tow the line" rather than be individual thinkers. They are also being screened for mental health, those who don't have the personality of sheep must be pinpointed and worked with.

Rosie,

First, thanks for a solid and candid answer to my question. I definitely hear your concerns and share them. But my concern is that those who coin terms like "globalist myths" are actually the ones who are manufacturing the problems you voice concern about, and foisting that blame onto a convenient scapegoat/enemy figure they have erected to deflect detection off of themselves. Do you get what I'm saying here? It's like the way "terrorist" and "al-qaeda" got bandied about all over the place post-9/11, to the point now where it's like all anyone has to do is invoke one of those terms and everyone scurries like little lab mice to eradicate the supposed "threat" --when the THREAT, the REAL THREAT, is coming from those making them scurry by invoking those words, NOT from what those words mean!!! Again, you know, it's like reading about the Salem Witch Trials all over again and realizing the REAL "witchcraft" -- the real EVIL -- came from those who were holding the trials, NOT those being accused!

Next, I understand and share also your frustration with what's going on with the kids. But as a person with mental health issues who has two children who have mental health issues, I have to say that it was precisely this kind of inbred distrust of the mental health field -- that they were all a big conformity conspiracy, just trying to target the kids that weren't "sheeple" for conformity training, etc. -- that kept me from getting help for myself and for my kids for very real problems for a number of years.

I don't mean help to become a sheep. (LOL! -- NOT interested in THAT!) I mean help with thoughts, feelings and behavior that I did not want, that made ME unhappy with myself, that I had no control over like normal people do, which are the products of very real mental health issues. Because I held precisely and exactly the same viewpoint you mentioned above -- about the mental health people prowling and trowling for "non-sheep" types -- I was completely unable to even conceive in my mind, let alone entertain the notion, that anything I experienced might have something to do with a mental health issue for the better part of twenty years.

You might find this article very educational and informative -- I know it really opened my eyes and turned on the lights on a number of areas. It's long so take it slow and in chunks ... The "Chemical Imbalance" in Mental Health Problems.

January 29, 2005

Sister Rosie, you may want to speak for yourself and not for Nico or Kim. I try never to speak for others.

January 29, 2005

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Nico agrues that ...

How 'bout you let me speak for myself, Shane?

January 29, 2005

In the instant case, I merely made a wry observation about the nature of many of those who oppose allowing any kind of abortion to remain legal, is all. I did not "argue" for or against anything.

January 29, 2005

Shane, you DID speak for me when you called me like Hitler and a murderer.

I'm not speaking about this anymore.

Kim

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