Key Guy Posted July 24, 2009 Posted July 24, 2009 From the Catholic News Agency http://www.catholicnewsagency.com/reading.php?n=5109 Quote: FRIDAY, JULY 24, 2009Liturgical Year B First Reading - Ex 20:1-17 1 And the Lord spoke all these words: 2 I am the Lord thy God, who brought thee out of the land of Egypt, out of the house of bondage. 3 Thou shalt not have strange gods before me. 4 Thou shalt not make to thyself a graven thing, nor the likeness of any thing that is in heaven above, or in the earth beneath, nor of those things that are in the waters under the earth. 5 Thou shalt not adore them, nor serve them: I am the Lord thyGod, mighty, jealous, visiting the iniquity of the fathers upon thechildren, unto the third and fourth generation of them that hate me: 6 And showing mercy unto thousands to them that love me, and keep my commandments. 7 Thou shalt not take the name of the Lord thy God in vain: forthe Lord will not hold him guiltless that shall take the name of theLord his God in vain. 8 Remember that thou keep holy the sabbath day. 9 Six days shalt thou labour, and shalt do all thy works. 10 But on the seventh day is the sabbath of the Lord thy God:thou shalt do no work on it, thou nor thy son, nor thy daughter, northy manservant, nor thy maidservant, nor thy beast, nor the strangerthat is within thy gates. 11 For in six days the Lord made heaven and earth, and the sea,and all things that are in them, and rested on the seventh day:therefore the Lord blessed the seventh day, and sanctified it. 12 Honour thy father and thy mother, that thou mayest be longlived upon the land which the Lord thy God will give thee. 13 Thou shalt not kill. 14 Thou shalt not commit adultery. 15 Thou shalt not steal. 16 Thou shalt not bear false witness against thy neighbour. 17 Thou shalt not covet thy neighbour's house: neither shalt thou desire his wife, nor his servant, Quote
Key Guy Posted July 25, 2009 Author Posted July 25, 2009 DG, The above quote specifically refers to seventh day Sabbath. Do Catholics believe the seventh day is Sunday, even though the quote is Old Testament and Jewish in origin? Quote
Members phkrause Posted July 25, 2009 Members Posted July 25, 2009 I don't think so timewarp. I believe that they think that the 7th day is the Sabbath and Sunday is the first day of the week. I'm not sure that they call sunday the sabbath, or do they. I know my sister-in-law doesn't and she's catholic. But I believe that other protestant churches do. pk Quote phkrause When the righteous are in authority, the people rejoice; But when a wicked man rules, the people groan. Proverbs 29;2
Key Guy Posted July 25, 2009 Author Posted July 25, 2009 I was surprised because I thought their Sabbath commandment was drastically shortened and simplified to "Remember the Sabbath day to keep it holy". This was the first time I've seen the 'seventh day' mentioned in the list of commandments, Catholic version. Quote
Members phkrause Posted July 25, 2009 Members Posted July 25, 2009 I think that's always been that way. And in there version its the third commandment. I believe they got rid of the one about worshipping images? And than split the 10th one in two? pk Quote phkrause When the righteous are in authority, the people rejoice; But when a wicked man rules, the people groan. Proverbs 29;2
Moderators John317 Posted July 25, 2009 Moderators Posted July 25, 2009 I was surprised because I thought their Sabbath commandment was drastically shortened and simplified to "Remember the Sabbath day to keep it holy". This was the first time I've seen the 'seventh day' mentioned in the list of commandments, Catholic version. The Catholic translations of the Bible are some of the best and most faithful to the original texts. In the Ten Commandments, you will find they read fundamentally the same as in any other good translation. For instance, check out the Jerusalem Bible, New Jerusalem, New American Bible, etc. The changes you speak of are in the Catholic Catechisms. Quote John 3:16-17 For God so loved the world, that he gave his only Son, that whoever believes in him should not perish but have eternal life. [17] For God did not send his Son into the world to condemn the world, but in order that the world might be saved through him.
Moderators John317 Posted July 25, 2009 Moderators Posted July 25, 2009 You're right. If you look in any Catholic Encyclopedia or Catechism, they all say that the Sabbath is our Saturday. Some sources-- mostly the older ones-- even go so far as to say that the Catholic Church was responsible for the church keeping Sunday. Most of the newer, Catholic sources agree with the popular Protestant view that Christians began to keep Sunday as far back as the first century. So Catholics are changing in that aspect, probably in an attempt to find harmony with the protestants. For instance, this from the online Catholic Encyclopedia-- Source: http://www.catholic.org/encyclopedia/view.php?id=10265 Quote: The seventh day of the week among the Hebrews, the day being counted from sunset to sunset, that is, from Friday evening to Saturday evening. .......... St. Paul enumerates the Sabbath among the Jewish observances which are not obligatory on Christians ( Colossians 2:16 ; Galatians 4:9-10 ; Romans 14:5 ). The gentile converts held their religious meetings on Sunday ( Acts 20:7 ; 1 Corinthians 16:2 ) and with the disappearance of the Jewish Christian churches this day was exclusively observed as the Lord's Day. (See SUNDAY.) Quote John 3:16-17 For God so loved the world, that he gave his only Son, that whoever believes in him should not perish but have eternal life. [17] For God did not send his Son into the world to condemn the world, but in order that the world might be saved through him.
Members phkrause Posted July 25, 2009 Members Posted July 25, 2009 So the changing of the order and so on is not in the catholic bible but in there catechism? I had heard it the other way around, thanks for clearing that up. pk Quote phkrause When the righteous are in authority, the people rejoice; But when a wicked man rules, the people groan. Proverbs 29;2
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