olger Posted July 31, 2009 Posted July 31, 2009 Beers with the Prez I don't agree with much of Obama's policies but I didn't expect him to pull a phony stunt like this. When you find yourself in a hole, stop digging. His involvement in this whole thing has already caused it to snowball, so to speak, and now he thinks he can wipe the slate clean with this charade. Seems like a popularity ploy to me, after a mis-step out in public. Stay out of it, for Pete's sake. g Quote "Please don't feed the drama queens.."
Members phkrause Posted July 31, 2009 Members Posted July 31, 2009 I see no problem with this, lets see what comes of it. And why does it have to be for my sake olger. pk Quote phkrause When the righteous are in authority, the people rejoice; But when a wicked man rules, the people groan. Proverbs 29;2
bonnie Posted July 31, 2009 Posted July 31, 2009 I see no problem with this, lets see what comes of it. And why does it have to be for my sake olger. pk General question for you. If you or anyone wrongs someone else publicly and will not apologize just as publicly what kind of value does it have? What are the chances that a apology that still blames the one you wronged for making you wrong him in the first place is sincere. If it is insincere and another wrong will it accomplish what it should. If you give a insincere apology is that acceptable to God? Quote Everything you do is based on the choices you make. It's not your parents, your past relationships, your job, the economy, the weather, an argument, or your age that is to blame. You and only you are responsible for every decision and choice you make, period ... ... Wish more people would realize this. Quotes by Susan Gottesman
Members phkrause Posted July 31, 2009 Members Posted July 31, 2009 When I said I have no problem with this, I was refering to the meeting that took place. What happen at that meeting I don't know as of yet. And like I said lets see what comes of this meeting. I already said in another thread that the President should not have said what he said, let alone answer a ignorant question in my opinion. 1-none; 2-I can't answer without judging; 3-no; 4-only God knows if its sincere, but I would say that if it is insincere it would not be acceptable to God or the person receiving the apology. pk Quote phkrause When the righteous are in authority, the people rejoice; But when a wicked man rules, the people groan. Proverbs 29;2
bonnie Posted July 31, 2009 Posted July 31, 2009 When I said I have no problem with this, I was refering to the meeting that took place. What happen at that meeting I don't know as of yet. And like I said lets see what comes of this meeting. I already said in another thread that the President should not have said what he said, let alone answer a ignorant question in my opinion. 1-none; 2-I can't answer without judging; 3-no; 4-only God knows if its sincere, but I would say that if it is insincere it would not be acceptable to God or the person receiving the apology. pk I am sorry,should have made it clear it was a general question. Question still stands in general. Quote Everything you do is based on the choices you make. It's not your parents, your past relationships, your job, the economy, the weather, an argument, or your age that is to blame. You and only you are responsible for every decision and choice you make, period ... ... Wish more people would realize this. Quotes by Susan Gottesman
Tammy Posted August 1, 2009 Posted August 1, 2009 I felt really bad that the cop even accepted the invitation to the White House....he should have just refused to even go. I agree with you Olger, this President is not one that I can find anything to respect him for.... Quote When the character of Christ shall be perfectly reproduced in His people, then He will come to claim them as His own. {COL 69} The Narrow Way Ministires 5464 State Road Kingsville, OH 44048 choose_the_narrow_way@yahoo.com
Members phkrause Posted August 1, 2009 Members Posted August 1, 2009 I'm kind of wondering if anything has actually come of the meeting that they had at the WH. Has anyone heard? pk Quote phkrause When the righteous are in authority, the people rejoice; But when a wicked man rules, the people groan. Proverbs 29;2
Members phkrause Posted August 1, 2009 Members Posted August 1, 2009 Thanks dgrimm pk Quote phkrause When the righteous are in authority, the people rejoice; But when a wicked man rules, the people groan. Proverbs 29;2
Dr. Shane Posted August 1, 2009 Posted August 1, 2009 I felt really bad that the cop even accepted the invitation to the White House.... I think it was the cop's idea. Quote Pastoral Family Counselor... Find me at www.PostumCafe.com Author of Peculiar Christianity
Members phkrause Posted August 1, 2009 Members Posted August 1, 2009 Shane you mean the whole meeting was the officers idea? I thought that was Obama's idea. pk Quote phkrause When the righteous are in authority, the people rejoice; But when a wicked man rules, the people groan. Proverbs 29;2
Dr. Shane Posted August 2, 2009 Posted August 2, 2009 The report I heard was that when President Obama called the officer on the phone, the officer suggested the three of them get together for a beer. Quote Pastoral Family Counselor... Find me at www.PostumCafe.com Author of Peculiar Christianity
Members phkrause Posted August 2, 2009 Members Posted August 2, 2009 OK Shane I had not heard that. Everybody from CA to FoxNews was saying that Obama was the culpret of this meeting. I have even more respect for this officer than I had before. pk Quote phkrause When the righteous are in authority, the people rejoice; But when a wicked man rules, the people groan. Proverbs 29;2
Richard Holbrook Posted August 3, 2009 Posted August 3, 2009 PK, nothing will come of it. It was just a photo op to try and make folks think that obama is the patcher upper, when he's the one who threw gas on the flame in the first place. Quote
Moderators John317 Posted August 3, 2009 Moderators Posted August 3, 2009 The news article states: The president's spokesman said it was Crowley's idea for the three to get together for a beer. According to Gates' attorney, Gates doesn't drink beer but he'll show-up for the meeting. Source: http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/Story?id=8163051&page=1 Quote John 3:16-17 For God so loved the world, that he gave his only Son, that whoever believes in him should not perish but have eternal life. [17] For God did not send his Son into the world to condemn the world, but in order that the world might be saved through him.
Richard Holbrook Posted August 3, 2009 Posted August 3, 2009 Yes he suggested it, but still it was used as a photo op for Obama. Quote
Moderators lazarus Posted August 3, 2009 Moderators Posted August 3, 2009 The news article states: The president's spokesman said it was Crowley's idea for the three to get together for a beer. According to Gates' attorney, Gates doesn't drink beer but he'll show-up for the meeting. Source: http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/Story?id=8163051&page=1 Not directed at you John. So now we know it was Crowley's idea, it was good idea after all and not really that embarrassing! Quote Great spirits have always found violent opposition from mediocrities. The latter cannot understand it when a man does not thoughtlessly submit to hereditary prejudices but honestly and courageously uses his intelligence. Einstein
bonnie Posted August 3, 2009 Posted August 3, 2009 Originally Posted By: John317 The news article states: The president's spokesman said it was Crowley's idea for the three to get together for a beer. According to Gates' attorney, Gates doesn't drink beer but he'll show-up for the meeting. Source: http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/Story?id=8163051&page=1 Not directed at you John. So now we know it was Crowley's idea, it was good idea after all and not really that embarrassing! The embarrassing part is having the leader of the country admit he is ignorant of the facts and targets the cop as in "behaving stupidly" One person that should have apologized for his own "stupid remarks" on an issue he says he knows nothing about. Quote Everything you do is based on the choices you make. It's not your parents, your past relationships, your job, the economy, the weather, an argument, or your age that is to blame. You and only you are responsible for every decision and choice you make, period ... ... Wish more people would realize this. Quotes by Susan Gottesman
Richard Holbrook Posted August 3, 2009 Posted August 3, 2009 The embarrassing part is having the leader of the country admit he is ignorant of the facts and targets the cop as in "behaving stupidly"One person that should have apologized for his own "stupid remarks" on an issue he says he knows nothing about. Now what does that have to do with...Oh wait. That's the heart of the issue. nevermind. Quote
bonnie Posted August 3, 2009 Posted August 3, 2009 Originally Posted By: bonnie The embarrassing part is having the leader of the country admit he is ignorant of the facts and targets the cop as in "behaving stupidly"One person that should have apologized for his own "stupid remarks" on an issue he says he knows nothing about. Now what does that have to do with...Oh wait. That's the heart of the issue. nevermind. I am kind of surprised that remark lowered the opinion of many as to Obama. Quote Everything you do is based on the choices you make. It's not your parents, your past relationships, your job, the economy, the weather, an argument, or your age that is to blame. You and only you are responsible for every decision and choice you make, period ... ... Wish more people would realize this. Quotes by Susan Gottesman
Members phkrause Posted August 3, 2009 Members Posted August 3, 2009 At least at this time he is the only one that has admitted that he made an ignorant remark. Gates has yet to apologise to the police officer and everyone in general. The only one that has been cleared and from what I have read and heard is the police officer and his partner, who by the way did not get invited. pk Quote phkrause When the righteous are in authority, the people rejoice; But when a wicked man rules, the people groan. Proverbs 29;2
bonnie Posted August 3, 2009 Posted August 3, 2009 At least at this time he is the only one that has admitted that he made an ignorant remark. Gates has yet to apologise to the police officer and everyone in general. The only one that has been cleared and from what I have read and heard is the police officer and his partner, who by the way did not get invited. pk I have yet to read a true apology. Maybe he did make one. What I heard is a left handed apology or explanation with disclaimers. He has not apologized as far as I know. Irregardless I was still surprised to read and hear the many people that really took offense. Quote Everything you do is based on the choices you make. It's not your parents, your past relationships, your job, the economy, the weather, an argument, or your age that is to blame. You and only you are responsible for every decision and choice you make, period ... ... Wish more people would realize this. Quotes by Susan Gottesman
Members phkrause Posted August 3, 2009 Members Posted August 3, 2009 I didn't say he apologised, I heard that he said that he was ignorant of the facts. As a matter of fact I think that that came out on FoxNews. But yes he did not apologise. But neither did Mr. Gates who should most definitely apologise more than Obama. And if Obama needs to apologise than so does the Governor of Massachusetts who also made ignorant comments. Both should have approached this as Colin Powell did. And just as bad has been Al Sharpton and his cronnies and no one has complained about there remarks, they were much more offensive that what Obama said. pk Quote phkrause When the righteous are in authority, the people rejoice; But when a wicked man rules, the people groan. Proverbs 29;2
bonnie Posted August 3, 2009 Posted August 3, 2009 I didn't say he apologised, I heard that he said that he was ignorant of the facts. As a matter of fact I think that that came out on FoxNews. But yes he did not apologise. But neither did Mr. Gates who should most definitely apologise more than Obama. And if Obama needs to apologise than so does the Governor of Massachusetts who also made ignorant comments. Both should have approached this as Colin Powell did. And just as bad has been Al Sharpton and his cronnies and no one has complained about there remarks, they were much more offensive that what Obama said. pk Obama is leader,president. It isn't a question of who owes the apology more than Obama. Each one that shot of their mouths should apologize as well. That still doesn't diminish the role and the example the leader of the country should set.He said what he said,he jumped into what he could figure out may end up to be a racial situation. He was perfectly willing with that knowledge to lay the responsibility with the cop. Whether or not anyone else ever apologizes it takes away nothing of his responsibility. To Sharpton if it walks,talks and breathes it is racist. Racism is big business for him,he hardly can be expected to let go of that Quote Everything you do is based on the choices you make. It's not your parents, your past relationships, your job, the economy, the weather, an argument, or your age that is to blame. You and only you are responsible for every decision and choice you make, period ... ... Wish more people would realize this. Quotes by Susan Gottesman
Dr. Shane Posted August 4, 2009 Posted August 4, 2009 According to Gates' attorney, Gates doesn't drink beer but he'll show-up for the meeting. Now I wonder. Could Gates be a recovering alcoholic, like me? He certainly acted like an alcoholic. Yes, I know. It takes one to know one. It would explain his prejudice against the police and why he jumped to conclusions. Quote Pastoral Family Counselor... Find me at www.PostumCafe.com Author of Peculiar Christianity
Woody Posted August 4, 2009 Posted August 4, 2009 One report disclosed the brand of beer that Gates drank with Obama. So ...there appears to be conflicting reports. Quote May we be one so that the world may be won. Christian from the cradle to the grave I believe in Hematology.
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