Twilight Posted August 24, 2009 Posted August 24, 2009 Does anyone here connect the "still small voice of God" in the account of Elijah, with the leading of the Spirit in Romans 8? What is your view of the "still small voice". Mark Quote The best wisdom is always second hand...
Twilight Posted August 25, 2009 Author Posted August 25, 2009 A bump for the others... :-) Some input folks? Practical Christianity and all that... Quote The best wisdom is always second hand...
Administrators Gail Posted August 25, 2009 Administrators Posted August 25, 2009 The voice of conscience... the voice of the Holy Spirit to make profound to you something from His Word Quote Isaiah 32:17 And the work of righteousness shall be peace; and the effect of righteousness quietness and assurance for ever.
Administrators Gail Posted August 25, 2009 Administrators Posted August 25, 2009 Or... that is how it has been to me Quote Isaiah 32:17 And the work of righteousness shall be peace; and the effect of righteousness quietness and assurance for ever.
Twilight Posted August 25, 2009 Author Posted August 25, 2009 Is it something we hear occassionally or something we can hear constantly? Mark Quote The best wisdom is always second hand...
Administrators Gail Posted August 25, 2009 Administrators Posted August 25, 2009 It may depend on whether we are listening or not... Quote Isaiah 32:17 And the work of righteousness shall be peace; and the effect of righteousness quietness and assurance for ever.
skyblue888 Posted August 25, 2009 Posted August 25, 2009 The still small voice is when we hear the word of truth and the Spirit whispers these words to us: "This is the way, walk ye in it." "When the Holy Spirit shall come into your hearts to impress the truth into your souls you will not let it go easily." F.W.56. The Holy Spirit can also speak to us through nature and the circumstances of life. "He sets in motion influences and impresses His Spirit upon the human mind." F.W.73. But the best example of that is found in the experience of Elijah when he was hiding in the cave. There was an earthquake, a fire, a whirlwind, but it says that the Lord was not in any of these things. Then the Lord spoke to the prophet by a still, small voice. See i Kings 19:11,12 or Desire of Ages, bottom of page 217. And then Mrs. White writes these words: "So Jesus was to do His work, not with the clash of arms and the overturning of thrones and kingdoms, but through speaking to the hearts of men by a life of mercy and self-sacrifice." D.A.217. In other words Christ's life of mercy and self-sacrifice was the still, small voice of the Holly Spirit speaking to the hearts of men. your thoughts, sky Quote "The merits of His sacrifice are sufficient to present to the Father in our behalf." S.C.36.
Twilight Posted August 26, 2009 Author Posted August 26, 2009 It may depend on whether we are listening or not... Indeed :-) Have you ever read Jean Guyon "experiencing the depths of Jesus Christ"? Quote The best wisdom is always second hand...
Twilight Posted August 26, 2009 Author Posted August 26, 2009 HEY TWILIGHT the still small voice is GOD talking to his followers you ask another question about how often do we hear this still small voice it is always there but we have the choice to listen or to ignore it but the more we listen more more we will hear it dgrimm60 But how do we come into this experience of "listening", practically? Quote The best wisdom is always second hand...
Twilight Posted August 26, 2009 Author Posted August 26, 2009 The still small voice is when we hear the word of truth and the Spirit whispers these words to us: "This is the way, walk ye in it." "When the Holy Spirit shall come into your hearts to impress the truth into your souls you will not let it go easily." F.W.56. The Holy Spirit can also speak to us through nature and the circumstances of life. "He sets in motion influences and impresses His Spirit upon the human mind." F.W.73. But the best example of that is found in the experience of Elijah when he was hiding in the cave. There was an earthquake, a fire, a whirlwind, but it says that the Lord was not in any of these things. Then the Lord spoke to the prophet by a still, small voice. See i Kings 19:11,12 or Desire of Ages, bottom of page 217. And then Mrs. White writes these words: "So Jesus was to do His work, not with the clash of arms and the overturning of thrones and kingdoms, but through speaking to the hearts of men by a life of mercy and self-sacrifice." D.A.217. In other words Christ's life of mercy and self-sacrifice was the still, small voice of the Holly Spirit speaking to the hearts of men. your thoughts, sky Further to your thoughts: When I consider Romans 8, we are told that only those that are "led" by the Spirit are the Sons of God. So it would seem to me, learning to recognise the voice of the Spirit, including the still small voice of God is paramount to our Christian experience... Mark :-) Quote The best wisdom is always second hand...
skyblue888 Posted August 26, 2009 Posted August 26, 2009 Mark, I wonder how many of us have ever considered that the "loud cry" will be the "still, small voice" speaking to the hearts of men. We often hear people say that a consistent life speaks "more loudly" than the loudest speeches. The humble life and gentle spirit of Christ, the still, small voice, spoke more loudly to the people than all the pomp and boastful claims of the proud priests and rabbis of His day. Speaking of the last days, Mrs. White was shown that during the "loud cry" the people will be captivated, not by Christ's true followers raising their voices in sweeping denunciation of the professed religious world, but by beholding Christlikeness of character. Yes, the still, small voice will be the loud cry to the church and to the world. "The revelation of His own glory in the form of humanity will bring heaven so near to men that the beauty adorning the inner temple will be seen in every soul in whom the Saviour dwells. Men will be captivated by the glory of an abiding Christ. And in currents of praise and thanksgiving from the many souls thus won to God, glory will flow back to the great giver." C.O.L.420. This is what took place in the days of Christ. For a while men were captivated by the light of the knowledge of the glory of God in the face of Jesus Christ and at Pentecost that same light shone upon the apostles. This was the "loud cry" for the Jewish people. The disciples did not raise their voices in denunciation of the corrupt Jewish leaders. Instead the disciples extended to them the offer of salvation, the offer of pardon for having crucified the Lord of glory. The life and character of the apostles, the still, small voice, spoke loudly to the hearts and minds of priests, rulers, and especially to the common people. Sadly though only a few responded to the last message of mercy. History will be repeated. "God has jewels in all the churches, and it is not for us to make sweeping denunciation of the professed religious world, but in humility and love, present to all the truth as it is in Jesus. Let men see piety and devotion, let them behold Christlikeness of character, and they will be drawn to the truth. He who loves God supremely and his neighbour as himself, will be a light in the world. Those who have a knowledge of the truth are to communicate the same. They are to lift up Jesus, the world's Redeemer; they are to hold forth the Word of life." Review and Herald, Jan. 17, 1893. It was in 1888 that "the truth as it is in Jesus" was presented to the people in clear, distinct lines. It was said to be the third angel's message in verity. Again it was a message of mercy. The people were invited to receive the righteousness--character, life--of Christ by appropriating to themselves the merits of His great sacrifice, the merits of His shed blood, the merits of the blood that is of value beyond estimate because it was the life of God in His Son that was for us poured out upon Calvary's cross. See F.W.22. If they would only come to God, claiming the merits of a crucified and risen Saviour, the Father would receive them to Himself, forgive them, and clothe them with the robe of Christ's righteousness which is made manifest in obedience to all the commnandments of God for His righteousness alone imparts all the powers, all the grace, all the repentance, all the inclination, and all the pardon of sins. See F.W.24. This, as Mrs. White stated, is the truth as it is in Jesus. It is the message that God commanded to be given to the world and which message is to be attended with the outpouring of the Holy Spirit in large measure. See Testimonies to Ministers, p.92,93, and F.W.24. It is the last message of mercy, which is to be proclaimed to the church and to the world in demonstration of the Spirit and power of God. "The blood of Christ was to be presented to the people with freshness and power that their faith might lay hold upon its merits." T.M.92. "By faith take hold of the merits of Christ and the soul-cleansing blood will be applied." F.W.96. sky Quote "The merits of His sacrifice are sufficient to present to the Father in our behalf." S.C.36.
Administrators Gail Posted August 26, 2009 Administrators Posted August 26, 2009 Originally Posted By: Gail It may depend on whether we are listening or not... Indeed :-) Have you ever read Jean Guyon "experiencing the depths of Jesus Christ"? Madame Guyon? I've started her book but have only just gotten into it. I hope you are telling me it will be a good one! Quote Isaiah 32:17 And the work of righteousness shall be peace; and the effect of righteousness quietness and assurance for ever.
Twilight Posted August 26, 2009 Author Posted August 26, 2009 Mark, I wonder how many of us have ever considered that the "loud cry" will be the "still, small voice" speaking to the hearts of men. We often hear people say that a consistent life speaks "more loudly" than the loudest speeches. The humble life and gentle spirit of Christ, the still, small voice, spoke more loudly to the people than all the pomp and boastful claims of the proud priests and rabbis of His day. Speaking of the last days, Mrs. White was shown that during the "loud cry" the people will be captivated, not by Christ's true followers raising their voices in sweeping denunciation of the professed religious world, but by beholding Christlikeness of character. Yes, the still, small voice will be the loud cry to the church and to the world. "The revelation of His own glory in the form of humanity will bring heaven so near to men that the beauty adorning the inner temple will be seen in every soul in whom the Saviour dwells. Men will be captivated by the glory of an abiding Christ. And in currents of praise and thanksgiving from the many souls thus won to God, glory will flow back to the great giver." C.O.L.420. This is what took place in the days of Christ. For a while men were captivated by the light of the knowledge of the glory of God in the face of Jesus Christ and at Pentecost that same light shone upon the apostles. This was the "loud cry" for the Jewish people. The disciples did not raise their voices in denunciation of the corrupt Jewish leaders. Instead the disciples extended to them the offer of salvation, the offer of pardon for having crucified the Lord of glory. The life and character of the apostles, the still, small voice, spoke loudly to the hearts and minds of priests, rulers, and especially to the common people. Sadly though only a few responded to the last message of mercy. History will be repeated. "God has jewels in all the churches, and it is not for us to make sweeping denunciation fo the professed religious world, but in humility and love, present to all the truth as it is in Jesus. Let men see piety and devotion, let them behold Christlikeness of character, and they will be drawn to the truth. He who loves God supremely and his neighbour as himself, will be a light in the world. Those who have a knowledge of the truth are to communicate the same. They are to lift up Jesus, the world's Redeemer; they are to hold forth the Word of life." Review and Herald, Jan. 17, 1893. It was in 1888 that "the truth as it is in Jesus" was presented to the people in clear, distinct lines. It was said to be the third angel's message in verity. Again it was a message of mercy. The people were invited to receive the righteousness--character, life--of Christ by appropriating to themselves the merits of His great sacrifice, the merits of His shed blood, the merits of the blood that is of value beyond estimate because it was the life of God in His Son that was for us poured out upon Calvary's cross. See F.W.22. If they would only come to God, claiming the merits of a crucified and risen Saviour, the Father would receive them to Himself, forgive them, and clothe them with the robe of Christ's righteousness which is made manifest in obedience to all the commnandments of God for His righteousness alone imparts all the powers, all the grace, all the repentance, all the inclination, and all the pardon of sins. See F.W.24. This, as Mrs. White stated, is the truth as it is in Jesus. It is the message that God commanded to be given to the world and which message it to be attended with the outpouring of the Holy Spirit in large measure. See Testimonies to Ministers, p.92,93, and F.W.24. It is the last message of mercy, which is to be proclaimed to the church and to the world in demonstration of the Spirit and power of God. "The blood of Christ was to be presented to the people with freshness and power that their faith might lay hold upon its merits." T.M.92. "By faith take hold of the merits of Christ and the soul-cleansing blood will be applied." F.W.96. sky Amen :-) Quote The best wisdom is always second hand...
Twilight Posted August 26, 2009 Author Posted August 26, 2009 Originally Posted By: Twilight Indeed :-) Have you ever read Jean Guyon "experiencing the depths of Jesus Christ"? Madame Guyon? I've started her book but have only just gotten into it. I hope you are telling me it will be a good one! If it is "Experiencing the depths of Christ" (modern translation), then it is wonderful, very deep and teaches a beautiful way to pray and connect to God. One of the most powerful books I have ever read and am still reading. It is constantly in my devotional pile. Chapters 1 to 3, then 7 onwards are the best... Mark :-) Quote The best wisdom is always second hand...
Lutz13 Posted August 27, 2009 Posted August 27, 2009 Originally Posted By: Gail Madame Guyon? I've started her book but have only just gotten into it. I hope you are telling me it will be a good one! If it is "Experiencing the depths of Christ" (modern translation)' date=' then it is wonderful, very deep and teaches a beautiful way to pray and connect to God. One of the most powerful books I have ever read and am still reading. It is constantly in my devotional pile. Chapters 1 to 3, then 7 onwards are the best... Mark :-) [/quote'] Sweet, thanks for bring up that book. I did a search for it and found a couple pages I could read. I decided to order it, it sounds very interesting. Quote
Guest Posted August 27, 2009 Posted August 27, 2009 Where did you find the pages you could read Lutz? Quote
Lutz13 Posted August 27, 2009 Posted August 27, 2009 Where did you find the pages you could read Lutz? Not sure if this link will work for you but I will try it anyways. Experiencing the Depths of Jesus Christ It is an amazon.com link but it lets you read a few pages. Quote
Twilight Posted August 27, 2009 Author Posted August 27, 2009 Sweet, thanks for bring up that book. I did a search for it and found a couple pages I could read. I decided to order it, it sounds very interesting. It really is beautiful, the best version is the one published by the "Seedsowers", there is an older mimeographed version in print (whatever that means), but that is not so good a translation from the French to the English apparently. I cannot recommend this book enough, if more people learned these principles in this book, we would soon enter into the development of the characters that Christ desires to give us. Another book is: Practicing the Presence of God, by Brother Lawrence (make sure you get a copy that has the "Spiritual Maxims" included. This is also a beautiful exposition on the inward life with God, but Guyon is the best in my view, as it is so simple and practical... Mark :-) Quote The best wisdom is always second hand...
Twilight Posted August 27, 2009 Author Posted August 27, 2009 Originally Posted By: Richard Holbrook Where did you find the pages you could read Lutz? Not sure if this link will work for you but I will try it anyways. Experiencing the Depths of Jesus Christ It is an amazon.com link but it lets you read a few pages. I would also personally testify that continued reading of this book, has deepened my walk with God in a way I could have never imagined... Maybe when a few have read it, we can open a discussion on some of the principles highlighted in the book? God bless, Mark Quote The best wisdom is always second hand...
Lutz13 Posted August 27, 2009 Posted August 27, 2009 Originally Posted By: Lutz13 Not sure if this link will work for you but I will try it anyways. Experiencing the Depths of Jesus Christ It is an amazon.com link but it lets you read a few pages. I would also personally testify that continued reading of this book' date=' has deepened my walk with God in a way I could have never imagined... Maybe when a few have read it, we can open a discussion on some of the principles highlighted in the book? God bless, Mark [/quote'] I think that would be a great idea. I was able to get the seedsowers version as well. Should be here in a couple of days, I'm really looking forward to it. Quote
Twilight Posted August 27, 2009 Author Posted August 27, 2009 Originally Posted By: Twilight I would also personally testify that continued reading of this book' date=' has deepened my walk with God in a way I could have never imagined... Maybe when a few have read it, we can open a discussion on some of the principles highlighted in the book? God bless, Mark [/quote'] I think that would be a great idea. I was able to get the seedsowers version as well. Should be here in a couple of days, I'm really looking forward to it. I am sure you will enjoy it Lutz. :-) Quote The best wisdom is always second hand...
Twilight Posted August 28, 2009 Author Posted August 28, 2009 Hey guys, I just ordered the book! Wonderful :-) Quote The best wisdom is always second hand...
Twilight Posted August 28, 2009 Author Posted August 28, 2009 Her autobiography is also quite amazing. Tough read, so best to read the above book first, but gives valuable insight into here views. Mark Quote The best wisdom is always second hand...
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