Dr. Shane Posted January 29, 2005 Posted January 29, 2005 Why is it again that we need to focus on prophecy more than family matters? Why do we need more evangelists than family counslers? I am still not clear on that. Teen Prostitution on Rise in California </font><blockquote><font class="small">Quote:</font><hr /> "What we're seeing here in this country is young girls, 14-, 15-year-old girls, that come from well-off families... being lured into the sex trade," said Chief Adolfo Gonzales of the National City Police Department <hr /></blockquote><font class="post"> Quote Pastoral Family Counselor... Find me at www.PostumCafe.com Author of Peculiar Christianity
cricket Posted January 30, 2005 Posted January 30, 2005 Why don't we just burn all the men who have ever had sexual relations with a prostitute? Quote
Dr. Shane Posted January 30, 2005 Author Posted January 30, 2005 Wow, that sounds radical. Shouldn't we try to reach them with the gospel too? Quote Pastoral Family Counselor... Find me at www.PostumCafe.com Author of Peculiar Christianity
cricket Posted January 30, 2005 Posted January 30, 2005 Oh, you know we could try. Actually, the Gideons have already tried. Guess we could say, they've had their chance. Quote
Fran Posted January 30, 2005 Posted January 30, 2005 Shane What is a functional family? Is there such a thing? I have never met one yet. Isn't every family dysfuntional in some way, shape or form. Quote The greatest want of the world is the want of men who will not be bought or sold, men who in their inmost souls are true & honest, men who do not fear to call sin by its right name, men whose conscience is as true to duty..., men who will stand for the right though the heavens fall.{Ed 57.3}
Dr. Shane Posted January 30, 2005 Author Posted January 30, 2005 Perhaps you are mistaking the words "functional" and "perfect". there is no perfect family but there are functional families. A functional family is generally considered a two-parent family where there is no abuse (physical, sexual, alcohol, drug) and no adultry. Sorry for using words you were not familar with. Quote Pastoral Family Counselor... Find me at www.PostumCafe.com Author of Peculiar Christianity
Moderators Bravus Posted January 30, 2005 Moderators Posted January 30, 2005 Two reactions: (1) Any stats on the extent to which the clients of the young prostitutes are from families that look functional on the outside? In other words, as always the law tends to fall hardest on the victims: how many Johns get arrested and charged, especially if they're 'respectable'. (2) But on the oher side, I don't think anyone here has ever denied the importance and desirability of functional families. I absolutely, 100% hold this up as the ideal, and am enormously blessed to be in a happy, joyful, loving family of my own. It goes back to that 'Ideal and Real' thread we had a little while ago - this is the ideal, and we need to live it first, and also promote it (but the living it is more important). But people find themselves in situations that are not ideal, for all sorts of reasons, and we have a choice whether to condemn them or love them. Quote Truth is important
Dr. Shane Posted January 30, 2005 Author Posted January 30, 2005 My position is that our church as a denomination needs to focus more on the family unit. We have many ministries in place but do not use them as much as I believe we should. Our church has weekend "get-aways" called Marriage Encounters. My wife and I have been married 8 years and have attended the only one we had the opportunity to in that time. Why aren't these held each year in every conference? Our church also has women ministries that focus on how to be a godly mother and wife among other things. What percentage of our churches have an active women's ministries? Saddly I am not aware of a men's ministy like Promise Keepers that our denomination has. Since I have been married every church I have been to has had at least one Revelation Seminar each year and yet in those eight years there has only been one Marriage Encounter weekend. Does that sound right to anyone? If we, as a denomination, do not take care of our families who is going to want to join our churches? Who wants to join a denomination with a bunch of dysfunctional families in it? The world is dysfunctional itself. When they come to our church and we invite them into our homes they should be in awe of how a Christian family lives. They should think to themselves "These people have something I don't and I want it." Quote Pastoral Family Counselor... Find me at www.PostumCafe.com Author of Peculiar Christianity
GreatLakesGramma Posted February 1, 2005 Posted February 1, 2005 In Michigan, they've been having a "Men of Faith" retreat each fall for some time. It's very well attended. My husband has been going for several years, and our son has been going with him for the last 2 or 3. It's not as well attended as the women's ministries weekends though. They've gone up to 3 weekends to try to accomodate more ladies, and still have to turn some away. Quote Catherine God is the strength of my heart and my portion forever. Psalm 73:26. "To be a Christian means to forgive the inexcusable, because God has forgiven the inexcusable in you." -- C. S. Lewis
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