Administrators Gail Posted December 6, 2009 Administrators Posted December 6, 2009 What is the difference? It seems to me that if one does NOT know the difference, it might cause some problems. Quote Isaiah 32:17 And the work of righteousness shall be peace; and the effect of righteousness quietness and assurance for ever.
Moderators Gerr Posted December 6, 2009 Moderators Posted December 6, 2009 Depends on which shoes you're in - the helper or the helpee (is there such a word? Quote
Administrators Gail Posted December 6, 2009 Author Administrators Posted December 6, 2009 LOL Well I guess each person contributes something to this relationship, whether healthy or not! Quote Isaiah 32:17 And the work of righteousness shall be peace; and the effect of righteousness quietness and assurance for ever.
Amelia Posted December 6, 2009 Posted December 6, 2009 Interference is stepping between to people fighting. Helping is offering a hand up to the person on the floor bleeding. :) Quote <p><span style="color:#0000FF;"><span style="font-weight:bold;"><span style="font-style:italic;">"Do not use harmful words, but only helpful words, the kind that build up and provide what is needed, so that what you say will do good to those who hear you."</span></span> Eph 4:29</span><br><br><img src="http://banners.wunderground.com/weathersticker/gizmotimetemp_both/US/OR/Fairview.gif" alt="Fairview.gif"> Fairview Or</p>
Liz Posted December 6, 2009 Posted December 6, 2009 All help is interference, the difference is the spirit in which it is given and the spirit in which it is received. The tricky part is knowing the difference between helping and enabling. Quote For what will a man be profited, if he gains the whole world, and forfeits his soul? Mat. 16:26Please, support the JDRF and help find a cure for Type 1 Diabetes. Please, support the March of Dimes.
Woody Posted December 6, 2009 Posted December 6, 2009 Let me go along and 'help' you out a little further on this Liz. I think it is important that one knows the helpee before the helper helps. And you had be very sure before you pour out your help. Lest you lose friends with the helpee. Quote May we be one so that the world may be won. Christian from the cradle to the grave I believe in Hematology.
GreatLakesGramma Posted December 7, 2009 Posted December 7, 2009 If it's some kind of emergency, like a person has just collapsed, and you know CPR, you should help whether you know the person or not. But the kind of help that I think this question is about is when you do know someone who has a task or problem bigger than they can handle themselves. In that case, I believe that if you step in unasked and take over the situation, that is definitely interference. True help means that you wait until the other person asks. It's OK if you see a need and offer some specific kind of help, but you still wait to actually help until they accept your offer. Then you do that, and remember at all times that it is THEIR business, and THEY are IN CHARGE. If, for example, you are helping someone clean their house when they have been sick, or taking care of a dying parent, you can offer to do a specific job, like folding the laundry or washing the dishes, but you don't just jump in and do it, you wait until they say yes. When you finish that, you can offer to do something else, or else ask what they would like help with next. But as soon as you start taking over and doing anything you think needs to be done, without getting their OK first, you're taking over. When it comes to financial or relational problems, where the help that is needed is some kind of advice, you only give the advice they ask for, and NEVER, EVER tell them "you have to do..." I always, when asked for this kind of help, simply talk them through identifying the problem, finding the cause, then exploring all the options that might help. Then I leave it to them to decide which options they want to use, or if they don't want to use any. That is their business, not mine. Sometimes the help someone really needs is just for someone to listen. Then you need to keep your mouth shut, and do just that, no matter what you think about what they're saying. If you're the type who can't keep your mouth shut, stay away from people who need somebody to listen. Quote Catherine God is the strength of my heart and my portion forever. Psalm 73:26. "To be a Christian means to forgive the inexcusable, because God has forgiven the inexcusable in you." -- C. S. Lewis
Members phkrause Posted December 7, 2009 Members Posted December 7, 2009 I'll go with the parable of the Good Samaritan, he didn't know the guy on the road, and even paid for his being taken care of. And he was not even liked by the guy who he helped! pk Quote phkrause When the righteous are in authority, the people rejoice; But when a wicked man rules, the people groan. Proverbs 29;2
Members phkrause Posted December 7, 2009 Members Posted December 7, 2009 Well I stay at a Holiday Inn CoAspen, I don't need to ask any ?s at all. LOL pk Quote phkrause When the righteous are in authority, the people rejoice; But when a wicked man rules, the people groan. Proverbs 29;2
Administrators Gail Posted December 7, 2009 Author Administrators Posted December 7, 2009 Great Lakes Grandma has got a BIG point! When the help is unsolicited because it is actually not required, the action is saying, "You are not capable of doing a good job," or "I don't want you to do it because I want that task instead," or "You should be doing things the way I think you should." To me, this represents at least a control issue. Quote Isaiah 32:17 And the work of righteousness shall be peace; and the effect of righteousness quietness and assurance for ever.
Woody Posted December 7, 2009 Posted December 7, 2009 Well I stay at a Holiday Inn CoAspen, I don't need to ask any ?s at all. LOL pk pk ... has staying at the Holiday Inn actually helped you? It never did anything for me. Quote May we be one so that the world may be won. Christian from the cradle to the grave I believe in Hematology.
Members phkrause Posted December 7, 2009 Members Posted December 7, 2009 to bad Redwood it worked for me? pk Quote phkrause When the righteous are in authority, the people rejoice; But when a wicked man rules, the people groan. Proverbs 29;2
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