Woody Posted January 1, 2010 Posted January 1, 2010 Quote: I received a copy of the September 2008 Messenger (** entitled 'What your kids could have done on their summer vacation) and left it unread on my coffee table. A friend came over, picked it up and said, "See, you're no different than thesecular world; you use the same language we do." I asked them what they meant, and they pointed to the word 'kids' on the cover. I was surprised to see the word 'kids' used not only on the cover but throughout the magazine. This may seem like a trivial matter, but it can, I believe, also denote some of the problems we have with today's youth. My question is: why do we have to use these words to describe our children? For one, it does not differentiate between boys and girls and is, more or less, putting everyone into the same category. As a result, gay and lesbian lifestyle is unfortunately being presented as a normal way of life, and, if we are not careful, our words will subtly portray us as condoning this lifestyle. I believe children are becoming more and more confused regarding their sexuality. , and can understand why. What is so wrong with calling them 'children'? It is used extensively throughout the Bible, and, to me, denotes the sanctity and respect we should be giving to both genders. I believe the Bible always should be our guide in expressing our thoughts or ideas. As you know, throughout the book of Genesis, God called us 'man' and 'woman', 'son' and 'daugher', 'child', and 'children', etc. If God used these words to describe His creation, why would we find it necessary to do otherwise? I would think that the Adventist Church would be in the forefront in making doubly sure we avoid using worldly or popular words or phrases and, in so doing,m uphold the sanctity and respect God gave to each of His creations. - Audrey H. Quote May we be one so that the world may be won. Christian from the cradle to the grave I believe in Hematology.
Members phkrause Posted January 1, 2010 Members Posted January 1, 2010 REDWOOD I WOULD use the words children and kids interchangeably until about 6 or 7 years ago I was talking to 1 of my coworkers at the time and ask the question about her children I used the word kids I wanted to know how many she had she answered me by saying she had 14 which took my breath away for a moment I said you have 14 children she looked and my and laughed she told me that she raises goats and she was thinking about her goats when I said kids from that point on I have always said the word children dgrimm60 That's funny dgrimm. But I know that if I were working in the Big Apple and I mentioned or said kids no one would think anything other than children. Some even say that about there animals if they don't have children of there own. But I agree we are very lazy here in this country and everything has to have a quick fraze or nick name. pk Quote phkrause When the righteous are in authority, the people rejoice; But when a wicked man rules, the people groan. Proverbs 29;2
Members rudywoofs (Pam) Posted January 1, 2010 Members Posted January 1, 2010 I don't see anything wrong with saying "kids" when referring to "children"... My pastor says we're "God's kids" all the time, and sometimes even during prayer. I think everyone knows it refers to a child or children.....unless you're out on a farm and have goats. Quote Pam Meddle Not In the Affairs of Dragons; for You Are Crunchy and Taste Good with Ketchup. If we all sang the same note in the choir, there'd never be any harmony. Funny, isn't it, how we accept Grace for ourselves and demand justice for others?
Members phkrause Posted January 1, 2010 Members Posted January 1, 2010 I don't see anything wrong with saying "kids" when referring to "children"... My pastor says we're "God's kids" all the time, and sometimes even during prayer. I think everyone knows it refers to a child or children.....unless you're out on a farm and have goats. I agree rudywoofs. pk Quote phkrause When the righteous are in authority, the people rejoice; But when a wicked man rules, the people groan. Proverbs 29;2
GreatLakesGramma Posted January 1, 2010 Posted January 1, 2010 I think the quoted author is all wet. "Children" doesn't designate gender any more than "kids" does. Using "children" isn't going to do anything to reduce gender confusion. Quote Catherine God is the strength of my heart and my portion forever. Psalm 73:26. "To be a Christian means to forgive the inexcusable, because God has forgiven the inexcusable in you." -- C. S. Lewis
GreatLakesGramma Posted January 1, 2010 Posted January 1, 2010 Neither does using "kids" have anything to do with presenting the gay and lesbian lifestyle as normal. It's totally and completely irrelevant. Nobody's going to parent any differently just because they use one word or the other either. Quote Catherine God is the strength of my heart and my portion forever. Psalm 73:26. "To be a Christian means to forgive the inexcusable, because God has forgiven the inexcusable in you." -- C. S. Lewis
GreatLakesGramma Posted January 1, 2010 Posted January 1, 2010 Oh, and one more thing. My kids don't like me referring to them as "my children" now that they are all adults. Quote Catherine God is the strength of my heart and my portion forever. Psalm 73:26. "To be a Christian means to forgive the inexcusable, because God has forgiven the inexcusable in you." -- C. S. Lewis
Amelia Posted January 2, 2010 Posted January 2, 2010 Next time introduce them as "fruit of my loins" LOL. They may like "children better. Quote <p><span style="color:#0000FF;"><span style="font-weight:bold;"><span style="font-style:italic;">"Do not use harmful words, but only helpful words, the kind that build up and provide what is needed, so that what you say will do good to those who hear you."</span></span> Eph 4:29</span><br><br><img src="http://banners.wunderground.com/weathersticker/gizmotimetemp_both/US/OR/Fairview.gif" alt="Fairview.gif"> Fairview Or</p>
Members rudywoofs (Pam) Posted January 2, 2010 Members Posted January 2, 2010 Quote Pam Meddle Not In the Affairs of Dragons; for You Are Crunchy and Taste Good with Ketchup. If we all sang the same note in the choir, there'd never be any harmony. Funny, isn't it, how we accept Grace for ourselves and demand justice for others?
SivartM Posted January 2, 2010 Posted January 2, 2010 I think the quoted author is all wet. "Children" doesn't designate gender any more than "kids" does. Using "children" isn't going to do anything to reduce gender confusion. That's what I was thinking... Maybe this person's real worry is that children will confuse themselves with goats? Quote "Always forgive your enemies; nothing annoys them so much." - Oscar Wilde�Do to others whatever you would like them to do to you. This is the essence of all that is taught in the law and the prophets." - Jesus
Members phkrause Posted January 2, 2010 Members Posted January 2, 2010 Next time introduce them as "fruit of my loins" LOL. They may like "children better. pk Quote phkrause When the righteous are in authority, the people rejoice; But when a wicked man rules, the people groan. Proverbs 29;2
Guest Posted January 2, 2010 Posted January 2, 2010 Next time introduce them as "fruit of my loins" LOL. They may like "children better. Quote
GreatLakesGramma Posted January 2, 2010 Posted January 2, 2010 My son didn't think too highly of that. Quote Catherine God is the strength of my heart and my portion forever. Psalm 73:26. "To be a Christian means to forgive the inexcusable, because God has forgiven the inexcusable in you." -- C. S. Lewis
olger Posted January 2, 2010 Posted January 2, 2010 But I agree we are very lazy here in this country and everything has to have a quick fraze or nick name. pk ha ha ha hee hee hee ho ho ho og Quote "Please don't feed the drama queens.."
LifeHiscost Posted January 2, 2010 Posted January 2, 2010 Neither does using "kids" have anything to do with presenting the gay and lesbian lifestyle as normal. It's totally and completely irrelevant. Nobody's going to parent any differently just because they use one word or the other either. At the risk of offense, perhaps the argument could be classified under "straining at a gnat and swallowing a camel." "“Woe to you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! For you pay tithe of mint and anise and cummin, and have neglected the weightier matters of the law: justice and mercy and faith. These you ought to have done, without leaving the others undone. Blind guides, who strain out a gnat and swallow a camel! “Woe to you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! For you cleanse the outside of the cup and dish, but inside they are full of extortion and self-indulgence." Joy! Quote Lift Jesus up!!
LifeHiscost Posted January 2, 2010 Posted January 2, 2010 Maybe this person's real worry is that children will confuse themselves with goats? And it gets worse. As the parents get older, they may confuse the children as goats. Especially when they jump up on the car. That's the kids, not the parents. Joy! Quote Lift Jesus up!!
Guest Posted January 2, 2010 Posted January 2, 2010 It's not safe for a kid to jump up on a car around me. Especially if it's my car. Quote
Guest Posted January 3, 2010 Posted January 3, 2010 I don't think either one is safe. And anyone up to say age 25, is still a kid in my book. Quote
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