Small Cell Terrorist Groups discovered in several SDA Churches

[GreatLakesGramma]

Latest news reports are that five terrorist cell groups have been operating in many of our SDA churches. They have been identified as: Bin Sleepin, Bin Arguin, Bin Fightin, Bin Complainin, and Bin Missin. Their leader, Osama Bin Lucifer, trained these groups to destroy the Body of Christ. The plan is to come into the church disguised as SDA Christians and to work within the church to discourage, disrupt, and destroy.

However, there have been reports of a sixth group. A tiny cell known by the name Bin Prayin is actually the only effective counter terrorism force in the church. Unlike other terrorist cells, the Bin Prayin team does not blend in with whoever and whatever comes along.

Bin Prayin does whatever is needed to uplift and encourage the Body of Christ. We have noticed that the Bin Prayin cell group has different characteristics than the others. They have Bin Watchin, Bin Waitin, Bin Fastin, and Bin Longin for their Master, Jesus Christ to return. Oh, and Bin Workin'!

Which cell group do you belong to?

And guess what, no church is exempt. However, you can spot them if you "Bin lookin". Bin Prayin???

No? Then you better get busy, because our church needs all the prayers you can pack in a day, not just when you are in church.

[Steve Billiter]

Latest news reports are that five terrorist cell groups have been operating in many of our SDA churches. They have been identified as: Bin Sleepin, Bin Arguin, Bin Fightin, Bin Complainin, and Bin Missin. Their leader, Osama Bin Lucifer, trained these groups to destroy the Body of Christ. The plan is to come into the church disguised as SDA Christians and to work within the church to discourage, disrupt, and destroy.

However, there have been reports of a sixth group. A tiny cell known by the name Bin Prayin is actually the only effective counter terrorism force in the church. Unlike other terrorist cells, the Bin Prayin team does not blend in with whoever and whatever comes along.

Bin Prayin does whatever is needed to uplift and encourage the Body of Christ. We have noticed that the Bin Prayin cell group has different characteristics than the others. They have Bin Watchin, Bin Waitin, Bin Fastin, and Bin Longin for their Master, Jesus Christ to return. Oh, and Bin Workin'!

Which cell group do you belong to?

And guess what, no church is exempt. However, you can spot them if you "Bin lookin". Bin Prayin???

No? Then you better get busy, because our church needs all the prayers you can pack in a day, not just when you are in church.

veeerry funny and cute, but true. I have personally noticed at least from my perspective, most of the attacks on solid Adventism, come from within.

[teresaq]

However, there have been reports of a sixth group. A tiny cell known by the name Bin Prayin is actually the only effective counter terrorism force in the church. Unlike other terrorist cells, the Bin Prayin team does not blend in with whoever and whatever comes along.

so true!! my most favorite church was the clovis one. because the people were different?

no. because the "ambiance" was different. there was something "different" about that church, but i didnt know what it was until later when i happened to catch an interview on 3abn. the churches in that area had a group that prayed from before the services til the end of all services!!

the same thing was going on during the operationglobalrain, which i caught the tail end of. the same "power" was in that.

if only all our churches would do that. probably wouldnt be a bad idea for sda boards either....

[phkrause]

Latest news reports are that five terrorist cell groups have been operating in many of our SDA churches. They have been identified as: Bin Sleepin, Bin Arguin, Bin Fightin, Bin Complainin, and Bin Missin. Their leader, Osama Bin Lucifer, trained these groups to destroy the Body of Christ. The plan is to come into the church disguised as SDA Christians and to work within the church to discourage, disrupt, and destroy.

However, there have been reports of a sixth group. A tiny cell known by the name Bin Prayin is actually the only effective counter terrorism force in the church. Unlike other terrorist cells, the Bin Prayin team does not blend in with whoever and whatever comes along.

Bin Prayin does whatever is needed to uplift and encourage the Body of Christ. We have noticed that the Bin Prayin cell group has different characteristics than the others. They have Bin Watchin, Bin Waitin, Bin Fastin, and Bin Longin for their Master, Jesus Christ to return. Oh, and Bin Workin'!

Which cell group do you belong to?

And guess what, no church is exempt. However, you can spot them if you "Bin lookin". Bin Prayin???

No? Then you better get busy, because our church needs all the prayers you can pack in a day, not just when you are in church.

GLG, I love this, and how true, and we don't even see that because of that huge log in our eyes. Excellent post.

pk

[Gail]

I thank you, too, Catherine!

[LifeHiscost]

I Bin Watchin' but only tonight, 'cause I Bin too busy. I Bin planning to do more but I Bin putting it off for a more convenient time. Hope you Bin sympathetic to my sad story.

Joy!!

[abelisle]

This is very funny I must say!

BUT

as a Religious Liberties Director in the fastest growing conference in the NAD (GNYC)and having a large number of illegal immigrants on our church rolls here, I initially squirmed and trembled when I first saw the title of this thread.

With a heightened national concern for terrorism and the Patriot's Act in effect, our security agencies are looking all over for possible terrorist cell groups. God forbid that we have even one member of our church even remotely affiliated with a suspicious group! Even the fact that anyone can read this thread title since this is a public forum can strike fear.

I am very concerned about how our eschatology will play out in terms of our present and future church-state relations. We were warned that we could lose our tax exempt status just for making political statements from the pulpit in our last national elections in '08. Sometimes even now I wonder if here in NYC, we aren't being carefully watched. Of course, the obvious places of concern are the mosques and social clubs where Muslims gather.

BUT - is it possible that illegal immigrants (known or suspected) are also being watched? This concern is more acute here in NYC with our very large immigrant population especially in our churches. Already I've read news articles expressing concern for terrorist cells that are already planted that are focusing on land targets (physical infrastructure) rather than just airplanes.

How easy it would be to close down Adventist churches and at the same time to begin the persecution we talk about when we describe last-day events.

Maybe we should add a disclaimer to the title as it exists on this site? Wouldn't want Homeland Security getting the wrong idea even though it's meant in jest?

Alex (be careful folks, be very, very careful)

[Neil D]

How easy it would be to close down Adventist churches and at the same time to begin the persecution we talk about when we describe last-day events.

That would depend on what the next "last day event" is considered to be.....

I would like to know just how easy it would be to close down an Adventist church without prior provocation. The SDA church has NOT participated in political events as a whole. It goes with whatever the current government and leaves the members to do thier politicking among themselves.

...and if you think that there are others out there in the world that would not stage a protest of the closing of the Adventist Churches without provocation, I would submit that Adventist paranoia is fueling that view.

[Woody]

Hey ... this is good GLG. Thanks for sharing it.

[abelisle]

Originally Posted By: abelisle

How easy it would be to close down Adventist churches and at the same time to begin the persecution we talk about when we describe last-day events.

That would depend on what the next "last day event" is considered to be.....

I would like to know just how easy it would be to close down an Adventist church without prior provocation. The SDA church has NOT participated in political events as a whole. It goes with whatever the current government and leaves the members to do thier politicking among themselves.

...and if you think that there are others out there in the world that would not stage a protest of the closing of the Adventist Churches without provocation, I would submit that Adventist paranoia is fueling that view.

I submit that everything you have said is true - now. I am speculating what might happen in the future. If our understanding of future eschatological events is true, I've always wondered what social and cultural events would precipitate wide scale persecution? Will it simply be the Sabbath issue? I don't know.

I myself would rather not be a member of the paranoid Adventist group-think that is concerned with the Iluminati, Trilateral Commission, Opus Dei et al. And yes, the closing of Adventist churches would get lots of attention and raise protests from many different corners. I daresay that the various secular humanist societies will prove to be our best friends when confronted with these egregious violations of church-state relations.

Alex (hmm . . . wonder who are true friends are?)

[Neil D]

I submit that everything you have said is true - now.

[abelisle]

"And yes, many of these type of Adventists think that just passing out literature on door steps, without human contact if possible] is doing "evangelism"...It is better to engage in conversation and improve relationships if one is to change the world into what Christ had in mind..."

This comment signifies a paradigm shift in Adventist thinking, I believe. I agree 100%. In our postmodern culture, true friendship, personal testimony and social behavior that reflects our principles are what counts. Jesus was the master of doing these things. The days of large tent meetings, hi-powered evangelists and literature handouts are over.

My church in the Bronx, NYC has seen the largest number of baptisms in the GNYC last year. It was simple. People brought their friends to church, studied with them and loved them.

Real evangelism is all about really loving others.

Alex ( I'm like you - "Lord I believe, help thou my unbelief")

[Stan]

am so going to hear about this one from the brethern and sisterern.

:)

[Woody]

am so going to hear about this one from the brethern and sisterern.

Could you speak a little louder Stan?

[Overaged]

Latest news reports are that five terrorist cell groups have been operating in many of our SDA churches. They have been identified as: Bin Sleepin, Bin Arguin, Bin Fightin, Bin Complainin, and Bin Missin. Their leader, Osama Bin Lucifer, trained these groups to destroy the Body of Christ. The plan is to come into the church disguised as SDA Christians and to work within the church to discourage, disrupt, and destroy.

However, there have been reports of a sixth group. A tiny cell known by the name Bin Prayin is actually the only effective counter terrorism force in the church. Unlike other terrorist cells, the Bin Prayin team does not blend in with whoever and whatever comes along.

Bin Prayin does whatever is needed to uplift and encourage the Body of Christ. We have noticed that the Bin Prayin cell group has different characteristics than the others. They have Bin Watchin, Bin Waitin, Bin Fastin, and Bin Longin for their Master, Jesus Christ to return. Oh, and Bin Workin'!

Which cell group do you belong to?

And guess what, no church is exempt. However, you can spot them if you "Bin lookin". Bin Prayin???

No? Then you better get busy, because our church needs all the prayers you can pack in a day, not just when you are in church.

Thankyou for posting this GLG! I really enjoyed it. Would it be "over-kill" if I said "Bin There, Done That?" I recognize all of these "characters" you described! But number 6 is my favorite. Church is so much better when that person has Bin there.

[Neil D]

This comment signifies a paradigm shift in Adventist thinking, I believe. I agree 100%. In our postmodern culture, true friendship, personal testimony and social behavior that reflects our principles are what counts. Jesus was the master of doing these things. The days of large tent meetings, hi-powered evangelists and literature handouts are over.

My church in the Bronx, NYC has seen the largest number of baptisms in the GNYC last year. It was simple. People brought their friends to church, studied with them and loved them.

Real evangelism is all about really loving others.

Alex ( I'm like you - "Lord I believe, help thou my unbelief")

In my opinion, the postmodern culture has striped people of that part of the "people to people " contact that we so badly need.And people WANT that contact, that intamacy. So, it's just plain good sense to be involved in the community where you live. People appreciate differing points of view. Since we have Jesus' model, as seen in the bible and thru EGW, we have a most powerful message that shows love and grace to the world.

But as to future events, I wonder if the bible meaning, [not the fixed times, as recorded in Daniel ] of future events have changed....What if, instead of the Sabbath, as being the decisive message of the world, it is grace instead? What if the angelic bowls that were poured out, were not chronilogical events, but rather fortelling of gobal situations that mankind needed to deal with....and failed because others loved tradition/the dark [as opposed to light] of men's minds...What if the angelic bowl poured into the sun was about global warming?

At any rate, I am glad your church decided to be more loving and invited thier friends to church....

[Overaged]

This is very funny I must say!

BUT

How easy it would be to close down Adventist churches and at the same time to begin the persecution we talk about when we describe last-day events.

Maybe we should add a disclaimer to the title as it exists on this site? Wouldn't want Homeland Security getting the wrong idea even though it's meant in jest?

Alex (be careful folks, be very, very careful)

Well; if Homeland Security cannot see the harmless nature of this thread; I would question how much security they could provide. I know from many Canadian friends who have crossed the border that Homeland Security can and does provide very good security.

Your comment re "closing down Adventist Churches," seems really off the wall. And the "Be very careful" comment seems very close to Jesuit Parnoid Theology...I couldn't live with myself if I had to be that worried about such minute, distant things.

[Overaged]

[rudywoofs (Pam)]

Latest news reports are that five terrorist cell groups have been operating in many of our SDA churches. They have been identified as: Bin Sleepin, Bin Arguin, Bin Fightin, Bin Complainin, and Bin Missin. Their leader, Osama Bin Lucifer, trained these groups to destroy the Body of Christ. The plan is to come into the church disguised as SDA Christians and to work within the church to discourage, disrupt, and destroy.

However, there have been reports of a sixth group. A tiny cell known by the name Bin Prayin is actually the only effective counter terrorism force in the church. Unlike other terrorist cells, the Bin Prayin team does not blend in with whoever and whatever comes along.

Bin Prayin does whatever is needed to uplift and encourage the Body of Christ. We have noticed that the Bin Prayin cell group has different characteristics than the others. They have Bin Watchin, Bin Waitin, Bin Fastin, and Bin Longin for their Master, Jesus Christ to return. Oh, and Bin Workin'!

Which cell group do you belong to?

And guess what, no church is exempt. However, you can spot them if you "Bin lookin". Bin Prayin???

No? Then you better get busy, because our church needs all the prayers you can pack in a day, not just when you are in church.

This didn't set well with me. What would a Muslim think if they read it? And I don't like the idea of "Terrorist Groups" in SDA Churches. Maybe I'm a stick in the mud, but I think it was a bad choice of words.

[Neil D]

Originally Posted By: abelisle

This comment signifies a paradigm shift in Adventist thinking, I believe. I agree 100%. In our postmodern culture, true friendship, personal testimony and social behavior that reflects our principles are what counts. Jesus was the master of doing these things. The days of large tent meetings, hi-powered evangelists and literature handouts are over.

This is absolutely untrue. There will always be a place for use of literature in evangelism.

[abelisle]

Originally Posted By: abelisle

This is very funny I must say!

BUT

How easy it would be to close down Adventist churches and at the same time to begin the persecution we talk about when we describe last-day events.

Maybe we should add a disclaimer to the title as it exists on this site? Wouldn't want Homeland Security getting the wrong idea even though it's meant in jest?

Alex (be careful folks, be very, very careful)

Well; if Homeland Security cannot see the harmless nature of this thread; I would question how much security they could provide. I know from many Canadian friends who have crossed the border that Homeland Security can and does provide very good security.

Your comment re "closing down Adventist Churches," seems really off the wall. And the "Be very careful" comment seems very close to Jesuit Parnoid Theology...I couldn't live with myself if I had to be that worried about such minute, distant things.

Read this article:

http://www.nytimes.com/2010/01/14/nyregi...ikey&st=cse

Then tell me how competent you think they are. If anyone is paranoid, they are, but it seems they haven't learned to connect the dots yet. Once you read the thread - yes, one can see its harmless nature. But why bring unnecessary attention to ourselves? Just asking.

Alex

[Overaged]

Your comment re "closing down Adventist Churches," seems really off the wall. And the "Be very careful" comment seems very close to Jesuit Parnoid Theology...I couldn't live with myself if I had to be that worried about such minute, distant things.

Read this article:

http://www.nytimes.com/2010/01/14/nyregi...ikey&st=cse

Then tell me how competent you think they are. If anyone is paranoid, they are, but it seems they haven't learned to connect the dots yet. Once you read the thread - yes, one can see its harmless nature. But why bring unnecessary attention to ourselves? Just asking.

Alex

[Overaged]

No. Some people don't need that and it's wrong to push it on them. By "imposed baggage" I mean that there are wrong types of "friendship;" it happens all the time in Churches:

Quote:

1Pe 1:22 Seeing ye have purified your souls in obeying the truth through the Spirit unto unfeigned love of the brethren' date=' see that ye love one another with a pure heart fervently:[/quote'] What is the opposite of "unfeigned?" Answer that and you answer my question. If you have ever been the recipient of this opposite I referred to, you would understand my comment better.

Evangelism can be done many ways; sometimes one way or multiple ways in combination. Literature evangelism will always be very important. Maybe not when you just place it on someone's steps though! Where did that whacky idea come from? I have never heard of people doing that. It must be a localized thing. That's why the Church supports so many different ways of evangelism. Because there are so many different types of people with differing needs.

I can tell you about times I have had over 30 people studying the Bible as a result of judiciously placed literature. I can also tell you about many people who have become Adventist Christians, just because they feel so loved and accepted in the Church they attend. Frienship, literature, and everything in between. Just don't cram everyone into the same box and say one is better than the other.

[phkrause]

At any rate, I am glad your church decided to be more loving and invited thier friends to church....

I do agree with you and Alex that personal evangelism and loving these new members. But at the same time the group evangelism is beneficial for many. The problem with the group evangelism is after is over and the new members try to mingle with the old. Alex can verafie (sp) this, we had a number of evangelistic meetings in NYC for the Jewish people, and they loved all the meetings but they really loved Dr. JM Hoffman the pastor. But getting to my point, after the meetings most if not all left because they couldn't get into the mix of all the old members. And on top of that, the things that were left out of the meetings like tithe, etc. they left because they were not interested in doing this. But most importantly was the love that the old member's didn't show these new members, and the fact that Dr. Hoffman left. And that's who they wanted to be there.

pk

[scripturewisdom]

so true!! my most favorite church was the clovis one. because the people were different?

no. because the "ambiance" was different. there was something "different" about that church, but i didnt know what it was until later when i happened to catch an interview on 3abn. the churches in that area had a group that prayed from before the services til the end of all services!!

the same thing was going on during the operationglobalrain, which i caught the tail end of. the same "power" was in that.

if only all our churches would do that. probably wouldnt be a bad idea for sda boards either....

sounds like a real good idea but........

some folks in our local church suggested they do that. guess they heard it from someone. odd thing is; they are the ones who want to destroy the adventist church and make it into something else. get this; in the last business meeting, members from that group suggested that the "door greeters" should stop saying "Happy Sabbath" to people!!! have any of you ever heard of such a thing? where do they get such thoughts? well, i know, but it's still bizarre.

this is why we have the aforementioned terrorist cells such as bin arguin', bin fightin', etc. what do you do; give up and let them take over? the original post is amusing but the reality is harsh. i've been told by numerous ol' saints in this church that this has been going on for 20+yrs. you just feel like a dog whose been chasin' his tail day after day.

P.S. your post spoke of the clovis church in past tense. may i ask why?

thx