Palin Assails Healthcare Process as 'Corrupt'

[Guest]

By: David A. Patten

Former Alaska governor and vice-presidential candidate Sarah Palin, describing the process used to pass healthcare reform as "corrupt," said it demonstrates "utter disregard for the will of the American people."

"Though they’d like us to forget," Palin wrote on her Facebook page, "we will remember the corrupt deals, the corrupt process, the lack of transparency, the deceptive gimmicks to game the CBO score, and the utter disregard for the will of the American people.

"Elections have consequences," she continued, "and we won’t forget those who promised to hold firm against government funding of abortion, but caved at the last minute in exchange for a non-binding executive order promised by the most pro-abortion president to ever occupy the White House."

Palin's post on Facebook was titled "Out-of-touch Congress Sounds Our Clarion Call to Take a Stand."

Palin noted that vote took place as "thousands of everyday citizens "surrounded the Capitol Building to rally against the proposed reforms."

She asked rhetorically: "Has there ever been a more obvious exhibition of a detached and imperious government?"

Palin predicted that in the weeks and months ahead Democrats will try to change the subject. "But we won't forget," she wrote.

Palin noted sardonically that at least the measure would help create jobs — 16,000 of them in the Internal Revenue Service, to "enforce all the new taxes and penalties the bill calls for!"

And it will create almost 160 new agencies, panels, commissions, and departments, she said.

"Is this the kind of 'change' Americans asked for?" Palin asked pointedly, labeling the law "unsustainable."

"Somewhere along the way we forgot that healthcare reform is about doctors and patients, not the IRS and politicians," she added. "Instead of helping doctors with tort reform, this bill has made primary care physicians think about getting out of medicine. It was supposed to make health care more affordable, but our premiums will continue to go up. It was supposed to help more people get coverage, but there will still be 23 million uninsured people by 2019."

Palin's post Monday also appeared to be an effort to rally the GOP faithful. It's no time to be discouraged, she wrote.

"This is just the beginning of our efforts to take back our country," Palin stated. "Consider yesterday’s vote a clarion call and a spur to action. We will not let America sink into further debt without a fight. We will not abandon the American dream to government dependency, fewer freedoms and less opportunity. Change is made at the ballot box. If we work together, we can renew our optimistic pioneering spirit, revive our economy, and restore constitutional limits.

Palin also made it clear that voters should express their sentiments when they flock to the polls in November.

"Yesterday they voted," Palin wrote. "In November, we get to vote. We won’t forget what we saw yesterday."

And she concluded with the words: "Stand tall, America. November is coming!

http://newsmax.com/InsideCover/Palin-Hea...omo_code=9A26-1

[Dr. Shane]

She is staying in the spot light. Good for her.

[Woody]

GO SARAH

[karl]

"Somewhere along the way we forgot that healthcare reform is about doctors and patients, not the IRS and politicians," she added. "Instead of helping doctors with tort reform, this bill has made primary care physicians think about getting out of medicine. It was supposed to make health care more affordable, but our premiums will continue to go up. It was supposed to help more people get coverage, but there will still be 23 million uninsured people by 2019."

She is absolutely right about this. I just quit my family practice and went into ER last month. It is too difficult to do FP even in the current enviromnent and it will be worse in the days and months to come. Obama accelerated my exit, but I can't say I wasn't thinking about it before he magically appeared on the political radar.

It really didn't make any difference what the outcome of the healthcare vote was any more than it makes any difference who the POTUS is. The problem is the people who elected the POTUS. If there are that many people who think so shallowly that they believe his promises are possible, much less moral, our nation is doomed. And they had to be conditioned to buy his baloney before he showed up. He didn't change them. They believed him because they wanted to.

Admittedly, there has been strong townhall resistance, and that gives me some hope. There have been some posters here at CA who understand the immorality of socialism, but not many. We will see what November brings, but I gotta be honest with you: I think the whole world will be socialist soon, and the absence of any free-market country will allow the rise of the one-world economic conglomerate foretold in Revelation. I think we have had only a little taste of the economic upheavals that are on the way.

[Guest]

I agree with you 100% karl. And I think you have hit the nail more squarely on the head than anybody else I've talked to. The majority of folks on this forum, especially in politics, don't even see how any of this fits in with last day events.

And I particularly agree that:

"The problem is the people who elected the POTUS. If there are that many people who think so shallowly that they believe his promises are possible, much less moral, our nation is doomed."

[lazarus]

lol isn't this the same hypocrite who crossed the border to benefit from Canadian health care.

[karl]

lol isn't this the same hypocrite who crossed the border to benefit from Canadian health care.

Huh? To whom are you referring?

OK, I did a search and found it. Skagway is a port town at the northern end of the Inside Passage, sitting at the foot of just about the only pass over the Coastal Range to the Yukon. There is no land connection to any other US town--water and air only. Her parents took her to Whitehorse (100 miles) because it was the most easily accessible large city. And, they had to pay the bill. It was not free for non-residents.

This is a non-issue and completely irrelevant to socialism in health care.

[bonnie]

Originally Posted By: lazarus

lol isn't this the same hypocrite who crossed the border to benefit from Canadian health care.

Huh? To whom are you referring?

OK, I did a search and found it. Skagway is a port town at the northern end of the Inside Passage, sitting at the foot of just about the only pass over the Coastal Range to the Yukon. There is no land connection to any other US town--water and air only. Her parents took her to Whitehorse (100 miles) because it was the most easily accessible large city. And, they had to pay the bill. It was not free for non-residents.

This is a non-issue and completely irrelevant to socialism in health care.

I like the story of the Canadian Premier coming to US for heart surgery. Do you think it was the waiting line or the quality

[karl]

I like the story of the Canadian Premier coming to US for heart surgery. Do you think it was the waiting line or the quality

It was the premiere of Newfoundland and Labrador.

In an interview with The Canadian Press, Williams said he went to Miami to have a "minimally invasive" surgery for an ailment first detected nearly a year ago, based on the advice of his doctors.

"This was my heart, my choice and my health," Williams said late Monday from his condominium in Sarasota, Fla.

"I did not sign away my right to get the best possible health care for myself when I entered politics."

The 60-year-old Williams said doctors detected a heart murmur last spring and told him that one of his heart valves wasn't closing properly, creating a leakage.

He said he was told at the time that the problem was "moderate" and that he should come back for a checkup in six months.

Eight months later, in December, his doctors told him the problem had become severe and urged him to get his valve repaired immediately or risk heart failure, he said.

His doctors in Canada presented him with two options - a full or partial sternotomy, both of which would've required breaking bones, he said.

He said he spoke with and provided his medical information to a leading cardiac surgeon in New Jersey who is also from Newfoundland and Labrador. He advised him to seek treatment at the Mount Sinai Medical Center in Miami.

That's where he was treated by Dr. Joseph Lamelas, a cardiac surgeon who has performed more than 8,000 open-heart surgeries.

Williams said Lamelas made an incision under his arm that didn't require any bone breakage.

[bonnie]

Originally Posted By: bonnie

I like the story of the Canadian Premier coming to US for heart surgery. Do you think it was the waiting line or the quality

His spokesperson said that none of the Canadian doctors even offered it to him as a treatment option.

The big question is where will we get to go

[karl]

See my post up two. They didn't offer him the minimally invasive surgical approach he wanted (plus he knew the guy in Miami he wanted to do it.) I would have done the same thing.

You gotta sacrifice something, Bonnie. These people are happy with fewer choices as long as everybody has the same choices. They think that fixes it, somehow.

I guess we can all go to the same witch doctor and get the same leaves.

Maybe "sameness" is the spice of life when you're a socialist.

[lazarus]

Every Universal Health care system in the world still allows you to have a choice. If he wants to pay he can have a donkey do the operation. How many plans in the US would have approved such an operation anyhow?

http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/poli...article1478816/

An international expert on heart repair says he would rarely recommend the type of surgery Newfoundland and Labrador Premier Danny Williams received this month at a Miami hospital because its only long-term benefit is cosmetic.

Thierry Mesana, chief of cardiac surgery at the University of Ottawa Heart Institute, said Tuesday he would only consider offering the “minimally invasive” procedure to young women hoping to avoid a chest scar.

The mitral valve repair Mr. Williams received Feb. 4 at Mount Sinai Medical Center involves surgeons making a five-centimetre incision on the side of the chest, near the armpit. Slender surgical tools are then inserted between the ribs to reconstruct the valve.

The traditional method requires a 10-centimetre incision in the middle of the chest and cutting through the breast bone, or sternum.

A damaged mitral valve can cause blood to leak backward in the heart, causing heart infections, an enlarged heart and heart failure.

Dr. Mesana issued a statement saying a survey published last month by the Society of Thoracic Surgeons expressed “caution” about the less invasive procedure because the rate of complications – strokes in particular – is higher.

“Many world-renowned experts do not advocate it,” the statement said.

[karl]

Laz, your disdain for anybody doing anything out of the "usual and customary" is showing.

And you are underscoring a major problem with insurance (which is applied socialism - all the insureds put their money in the pot and the ones who need it take it out.) This problem is that of "sameness." Socialism and insurance can't deal with the outliers. If you're like Great Lakes Grandma and your symptoms don't respond to the usual and customary treatments, or if you're like this premiere from Newfoundland and you want your valve operated through your armpit, the "sameness" approach says, "No."

This is why some of us prefer to be out of the club and just take care of things on our own. In addition, those of us who exercise, eat right, and avoid life-threatening habits should not be penalized for taking care of ourselves by being lumped in an insurance pool with those who do not.

[Guest]

Amen