bonnie Posted June 2, 2010 Posted June 2, 2010 Anti-Israel Sharks Sniff O's Weakness Michael Goodwin In the aftermath of the Gaza flotilla fiasco, the air is thick with nonsense. Chief among the instant myths is that Israel has created a dilemma for President Obama. Actually, it's the other way around. The president's appeasement policies helped to create the incident. Israel took the bait, but the trap was set in Washington. Weakness always begets aggression, and, like clockwork, Obama's repeated signals that he is weakening America's commitment to Israel are emboldening the Jewish state's enemies. From Syria to Iran to Lebanon, from Hezbollah to Hamas and the PLO, the wolves smell blood and are trying to gauge whether they can get close enough for the kill. see more videos And whether the United States will stop them. That they even dare hope we won't reflects the danger of Obama's demented decisions. The huge flotilla is the latest example of the open-season mania, with the result that Israel is under international siege -- for defending itself. And, not incidentally, for defending an embargo on Gaza that Washington supports. Obama says he wants the facts of the incident, but let's hope he also wants the truth, even if it is inconvenient to his worldview. The first fact is that the flotilla was not really a humanitarian effort. The compassion claim was a fig leaf for the political aim of busting the 3-year-old maritime blockade, as organizers admitted last week. They knew they would not be allowed to dock in Gaza, but still rejected Israel's offer to unload the goods in Israeli ports and, after inspection, truck them overland. At least a few of the passengers were armed. "We're trying to break the blockade of the Gaza Strip and tell the world that Israel has no right to starve 1.5 million Palestinians," Greta Berlin, the head of an organization called Free Gaza Movement, said in typical exaggeration to a British newspaper. Her group's boats were turned away before, but they vowed not to be stopped this time. "The previous boats were making a statement -- these boats will be making a real impact," Berlin said four days before the launch. Israel, of course, is not exempt from criticism for what was clearly a bungled effort. Incredibly, given what they knew beforehand about the intent of the activists, its military leaders sent in only a handful of lightly armed commandos who were easy targets as they slid down ropes from helicopters. Yet it's also fair to ask where Obama was while the problem was building. Even if he was too busy with the oil disaster in the Gulf, where was the secretary of state? It was long clear the flotilla had the potential to cause a regional ruckus, but Washington watched it unfold like a spectator. Read more: http://www.nypost.com/p/news/national/an...J#ixzz0pjoQZLsc Quote Everything you do is based on the choices you make. It's not your parents, your past relationships, your job, the economy, the weather, an argument, or your age that is to blame. You and only you are responsible for every decision and choice you make, period ... ... Wish more people would realize this. Quotes by Susan Gottesman
Members phkrause Posted June 2, 2010 Members Posted June 2, 2010 I personally don't think it was a fiasco, Israel did what they had to do, period. I just want to see the President back Israel a little more than he is. It seems that every time I watch a little bit more of what went on, Israel becomes more and more justified in there response. pk Quote phkrause When the righteous are in authority, the people rejoice; But when a wicked man rules, the people groan. Proverbs 29;2
bonnie Posted June 2, 2010 Author Posted June 2, 2010 I personally don't think it was a fiasco, Israel did what they had to do, period. I just want to see the President back Israel a little more than he is. It seems that every time I watch a little bit more of what went on, Israel becomes more and more justified in there response. pk Obama has never really supported Israel. He would never insult a third world country dictator the way he has the leader of Israel Quote Everything you do is based on the choices you make. It's not your parents, your past relationships, your job, the economy, the weather, an argument, or your age that is to blame. You and only you are responsible for every decision and choice you make, period ... ... Wish more people would realize this. Quotes by Susan Gottesman
Members phkrause Posted June 2, 2010 Members Posted June 2, 2010 Obama has never really supported Israel. He would never insult a third world country dictator the way he has the leader of Israel I do agree with you there. I know that he wants to be, a statement I don't care for but since at this moment I don't have a better one I'll use it, "PC!" I know that he's been trying to give the Muslim countries the benefit of the doubt, but I think its time to let them realize that the time for being nice is over. pk Quote phkrause When the righteous are in authority, the people rejoice; But when a wicked man rules, the people groan. Proverbs 29;2
bonnie Posted June 2, 2010 Author Posted June 2, 2010 Originally Posted By: bonnie Obama has never really supported Israel. He would never insult a third world country dictator the way he has the leader of Israel I do agree with you there. I know that he wants to be, a statement I don't care for but since at this moment I don't have a better one I'll use it, "PC!" I know that he's been trying to give the Muslim countries the benefit of the doubt, but I think its time to let them realize that the time for being nice is over. pk Not so sure I think he is trying to be PC. Regardless of what his religious belief may be,he has a almost awe concerning Muslims. His acceptance of what dictators have to say concerning this country and at times agreeing is more than a little telling. His bowing to almost every leader except those like the Queen of England and the leader of Israel. Respect for him as leader of the "free world" is sadly missing. How many countries have ended up either snubbing him or outright laugh at him? Quote Everything you do is based on the choices you make. It's not your parents, your past relationships, your job, the economy, the weather, an argument, or your age that is to blame. You and only you are responsible for every decision and choice you make, period ... ... Wish more people would realize this. Quotes by Susan Gottesman
Moderators Bravus Posted June 3, 2010 Moderators Posted June 3, 2010 Or, you know, be even-handed, rather than massively biased toward Israel like every last US president in living memory... Want to count up which country in the world has defied more UN resolutions than all others put together, by a huge margin? The definition of 'rogue state' was pretty much invented for Israel... (and no, I'm not 'anti-Isreal' - and if someone suggests I'm antisemitic I'll punch them - it would just be nice if this state was held to the same standards of foreign policy and behaviour as every other state in the world) Quote Truth is important
bonnie Posted June 3, 2010 Author Posted June 3, 2010 Or, you know, be even-handed, rather than massively biased toward Israel like every last US president in living memory... Want to count up which country in the world has defied more UN resolutions than all others put together, by a huge margin? The definition of 'rogue state' was pretty much invented for Israel... (and no, I'm not 'anti-Isreal' - and if someone suggests I'm antisemitic I'll punch them - it would just be nice if this state was held to the same standards of foreign policy and behaviour as every other state in the world) * 'This was not a love boat' Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu, in a live address this evening on Israeli TV, defended his administration's actions, which have been under intense international and domestic criticism: Here’s our policy. It's very simple: Humanitarian and other goods can go in and weapons and war materiel cannot. And we do let civilian goods into Gaza. There is no humanitarian crisis in Gaza. Each week, an average of ten thousand tons of goods enter Gaza. There's no shortage of food. There's no shortage of medicine. There's no shortage of other goods. On this occasion too, we made several offers — offers to deliver the goods on board the flotilla to Gaza after a security inspection. Egypt made similar offers. And these offers were rejected time and again. So our naval personnel had no choice but to board these vessels. Now, on five of the vessels, our seamen were not met by any serious violence and as a result, there were no serious injuries aboard those ships. But on the largest ship, something very different happened. Our naval personnel, just as they landed on the ship — you can see this in the videos — the first soldier — they were met with a vicious mob. They were stabbed, they were clubbed, they were fired upon. I talked to some of these soldiers. One was shot in the stomach, one was shot in the knee. They were going to be killed and they had to act in self-defense. It is very clear to us that the attackers had prepared their violent action in advance. They were members of an extremist group that has supported international terrorist organizations and today support the terrorist organization called Hamas. They brought with them in advance knives, steel rods, other weapons. They chanted battle cries against the Jews. You can hear this on the tapes that have been released. This was not a love boat. This was a hate boat. These weren't pacifists. These weren't peace activists. These were violent supporters of terrorism. Full speech translation after the jump. Check Against Delivery Once again, Israel faces hypocrisy and a biased rush to judgment. I’m afraid this isn’t the first time. Last year, Israel acted to stop Hamas from firing thousands of rockets into Israel’s towns and cities. Hamas was firing on our civilians while hiding behind civilians. And Israel went to unprecedented lengths to avoid Palestinian civilian casualties. Yet it was Israel, and not Hamas, that was accused by the U.N. of war crimes. Now regrettably, the same thing appears to be happening now. But here are the facts. Hamas is smuggling thousands of Iranian rockets, missiles and other weaponry — smuggling it into Gaza in order to fire on Israel’s cities. These missiles can reach Ashdod and Beer Sheva — these are major Israeli cities. And I regret to say that some of them can reach now Tel Aviv, and very soon, the outskirts of Jerusalem. From the information we have, the planned shipments include weapons that can reach farther, even farther and deeper into Israel. Under international law, and under common sense and common decency, Israel has every right to interdict this weaponry and to inspect the ships that might be transporting them. This is not a theoretical challenge or a theoretical threat. We have already interdicted vessels bound for Hezbollah, and for Hamas from Iran, containing hundreds of tons of weapons. In one ship, the Francop, we found hundreds of tons of war materiel and weapons destined for Hezbollah. In another celebrated case, the Karine A, dozens of tons of weapons were destined for Hamas by Iran via a shipment to Gaza. Israel simply cannot permit the free flow of weapons and war materials to Hamas from the sea. I will go further than that. Israel cannot permit Iran to establish a Mediterranean port a few dozen kilometers from Tel Aviv and from Jerusalem. And I would go beyond that too. I say to the responsible leaders of all the nations: The international community cannot afford an Iranian port in the Mediterranean. Fifteen years ago I cautioned about an Iranian development that has come to pass — people now recognize that danger. Today I warn of this impending willingness to enable Iran to establish a naval port right next to Israel, right next to Europe. The same countries that are criticizing us today should know that they will be targeted tomorrow. For this and for many other reasons, we have a right to inspect cargo heading into Gaza. And here’s our policy. It's very simple: Humanitarian and other goods can go in and weapons and war materiel cannot. And we do let civilian goods into Gaza. There is no humanitarian crisis in Gaza. Each week, an average of ten thousand tons of goods enter Gaza. There's no shortage of food. There's no shortage of medicine. There's no shortage of other goods. On this occasion too, we made several offers — offers to deliver the goods on board the flotilla to Gaza after a security inspection. Egypt made similar offers. And these offers were rejected time and again. So our naval personnel had no choice but to board these vessels. Now, on five of the vessels, our seamen were not met by any serious violence and as a result, there were no serious injuries aboard those ships. But on the largest ship, something very different happened. Our naval personnel, just as they landed on the ship — you can see this in the videos — the first soldier — they were met with a vicious mob. They were stabbed, they were clubbed, they were fired upon. I talked to some of these soldiers. One was shot in the stomach, one was shot in the knee. They were going to be killed and they had to act in self-defense. It is very clear to us that the attackers had prepared their violent action in advance. They were members of an extremist group that has supported international terrorist organizations and today support the terrorist organization called Hamas. They brought with them in advance knives, steel rods, other weapons. They chanted battle cries against the Jews. You can hear this on the tapes that have been released. This was not a love boat. This was a hate boat. These weren't pacifists. These weren't peace activists. These were violent supporters of terrorism. I think that the evidence that the lives of the Israeli seamen were in danger is crystal clear. If you're a fair-minded observer and you look at those videos, you know this simple truth. But I regret to say that for many in the international community, no evidence is needed. Israel is guilty until proven guilty. Once again, Israel is told that it has a right to defend itself but is condemned every time it exercises that right. Now you know that a right that you cannot exercise is meaningless. And you know that the way we exercise it — under these conditions of duress, under the rocketing of our cities, under the impending killing of our soldiers — you know that we exercise it in a way that is commensurate with any international standard. I have spoken to leading leaders of the world, and I say the same thing today to the international community: What would you do? How would you stop thousands of rockets that are destined to attack your cities, your civilians, your children? How would your soldiers behave under similar circumstances? I think in your hearts, you all know the truth. Israel regrets the loss of life. But we will never apologize for defending ourselves. Israel has every right to prevent deadly weapons from entering into hostile territory. And Israeli soldiers have every right to defend their lives and their country. This may sound like an impossible plea, or an impossible request, or an impossible demand, but I make it anyway: Israel should not be held to a double standard. The Jewish state has a right to defend itself just like any other state. Thank you. Quote Everything you do is based on the choices you make. It's not your parents, your past relationships, your job, the economy, the weather, an argument, or your age that is to blame. You and only you are responsible for every decision and choice you make, period ... ... Wish more people would realize this. Quotes by Susan Gottesman
Members phkrause Posted June 4, 2010 Members Posted June 4, 2010 Excellent post Bonnie. I watched his speech and agree with every word he said. I usually have a problem with some of the previous PMs. This guy will never take anything from anyone. Israel has always been held to a higher standard than others. Here is a very interesting link: http://www.aish.com/jw/me/95298224.html pk Quote phkrause When the righteous are in authority, the people rejoice; But when a wicked man rules, the people groan. Proverbs 29;2
Members phkrause Posted June 4, 2010 Members Posted June 4, 2010 here's another interesting article: http://www.aish.com/jw/me/86744887.html pk Quote phkrause When the righteous are in authority, the people rejoice; But when a wicked man rules, the people groan. Proverbs 29;2
bonnie Posted June 4, 2010 Author Posted June 4, 2010 Excellent post Bonnie. I watched his speech and agree with every word he said. I usually have a problem with some of the previous PMs. This guy will never take anything from anyone. Israel has always been held to a higher standard than others. Here is a very interesting link: http://www.aish.com/jw/me/95298224.html pk If Israel shows any weakness I believe they stand a good chance of being wiped of the map. Quote Everything you do is based on the choices you make. It's not your parents, your past relationships, your job, the economy, the weather, an argument, or your age that is to blame. You and only you are responsible for every decision and choice you make, period ... ... Wish more people would realize this. Quotes by Susan Gottesman
doug yowell Posted June 4, 2010 Posted June 4, 2010 Or, you know, be even-handed, rather than massively biased toward Israel like every last US president in living memory... Want to count up which country in the world has defied more UN resolutions than all others put together, by a huge margin? The definition of 'rogue state' was pretty much invented for Israel... (and no, I'm not 'anti-Isreal' - and if someone suggests I'm antisemitic I'll punch them - it would just be nice if this state was held to the same standards of foreign policy and behaviour as every other state in the world) Come on, Bravus,You're obviously anti-Semitic, or just plain anti-Jewish.If you really were interested in Israel being held to the same standard as their neighbors you would allow them to conduct airstrikes or artillery against schools and buses on a daily basis.Who's the one with the double standard? Notice that since Egypt recognized Israel"s sovereignty that there's no more conflict between the two? Any coincidence?Notice that the overwhelming number of UN resolutions condemning Israel have been drawn up and supported by Israel's Arab neighbors and their supporters. Iran, Sudan, Saudi Arabia,ect... drawing up resolutions condemning Israel for human rights violations!! Any coincidence?But you're not anti-Semetic (Jewish)? What else should we call it? Quote
Members phkrause Posted June 5, 2010 Members Posted June 5, 2010 Come on, Bravus,You're obviously anti-Semitic, or just plain anti-Jewish.If you really were interested in Israel being held to the same standard as their neighbors you would allow them to conduct airstrikes or artillery against schools and buses on a daily basis.Who's the one with the double standard? Notice that since Egypt recognized Israel"s sovereignty that there's no more conflict between the two? Any coincidence?Notice that the overwhelming number of UN resolutions condemning Israel have been drawn up and supported by Israel's Arab neighbors and their supporters. Iran, Sudan, Saudi Arabia,ect... drawing up resolutions condemning Israel for human rights violations!! Any coincidence?But you're not anti-Semetic (Jewish)? What else should we call it? I don't think Bravus is anti-Jewish. He sees things from a different view point. Even though I disagree with him on this, he still has a right to his opinion, as we all do. pk Quote phkrause When the righteous are in authority, the people rejoice; But when a wicked man rules, the people groan. Proverbs 29;2
bonnie Posted June 5, 2010 Author Posted June 5, 2010 I don't think Bravus is anti-Jewish. He sees things from a different view point. Even though I disagree with him on this, he still has a right to his opinion, as we all do. pk Quote Everything you do is based on the choices you make. It's not your parents, your past relationships, your job, the economy, the weather, an argument, or your age that is to blame. You and only you are responsible for every decision and choice you make, period ... ... Wish more people would realize this. Quotes by Susan Gottesman
bonnie Posted June 5, 2010 Author Posted June 5, 2010 The world is outraged at Israel's blockade of Gaza. Turkey denounces its illegality, inhumanity, barbarity, etc. The usual U.N. suspects, Third World and European, join in. The Obama administration dithers. But as Leslie Gelb, former president of the Council on Foreign Relations, writes, the blockade is not just perfectly rational, it is perfectly legal. Gaza under Hamas is a self-declared enemy of Israel -- a declaration backed up by more than 4,000 rockets fired at Israeli civilian territory. Yet having pledged itself to unceasing belligerency, Hamas claims victimhood when Israel imposes a blockade to prevent Hamas from arming itself with still more rockets. In World War II, with full international legality, the United States blockaded Germany and Japan. And during the October 1962 missile crisis, we blockaded ("quarantined") Cuba. Arms-bearing Russian ships headed to Cuba turned back because the Soviets knew that the U.S. Navy would either board them or sink them. Yet Israel is accused of international criminality for doing precisely what John Kennedy did: impose a naval blockade to prevent a hostile state from acquiring lethal weaponry. Oh, but weren't the Gaza-bound ships on a mission of humanitarian relief? No. Otherwise they would have accepted Israel's offer to bring their supplies to an Israeli port, be inspected for military materiel and have the rest trucked by Israel into Gaza -- as every week 10,000 tons of food, medicine and other humanitarian supplies are sent by Israel to Gaza. Why was the offer refused? Because, as organizer Greta Berlin admitted, the flotilla was not about humanitarian relief but about breaking the blockade, i.e., ending Israel's inspection regime, which would mean unlimited shipping into Gaza and thus the unlimited arming of Hamas. Israel has already twice intercepted ships laden with Iranian arms destined for Hezbollah and Gaza. What country would allow that? ad_icon But even more important, why did Israel even have to resort to blockade? Because, blockade is Israel's fallback as the world systematically de-legitimizes its traditional ways of defending itself -- forward and active defense. (1) Forward defense: As a small, densely populated country surrounded by hostile states, Israel had, for its first half-century, adopted forward defense -- fighting wars on enemy territory (such as the Sinai and Golan Heights) rather than its own. Where possible (Sinai, for example) Israel has traded territory for peace. But where peace offers were refused, Israel retained the territory as a protective buffer zone. Thus Israel retained a small strip of southern Lebanon to protect the villages of northern Israel. And it took many losses in Gaza, rather than expose Israeli border towns to Palestinian terror attacks. It is for the same reason America wages a grinding war in Afghanistan: You fight them there, so you don't have to fight them here. But under overwhelming outside pressure, Israel gave it up. The Israelis were told the occupations were not just illegal but at the root of the anti-Israel insurgencies -- and therefore withdrawal, by removing the cause, would bring peace. Land for peace. Remember? Well, during the past decade, Israel gave the land -- evacuating South Lebanon in 2000 and Gaza in 2005. What did it get? An intensification of belligerency, heavy militarization of the enemy side, multiple kidnappings, cross-border attacks and, from Gaza, years of unrelenting rocket attack. (2) Active defense: Israel then had to switch to active defense -- military action to disrupt, dismantle and defeat (to borrow President Obama's description of our campaign against the Taliban and al-Qaeda) the newly armed terrorist mini-states established in southern Lebanon and Gaza after Israel withdrew. The result? The Lebanon war of 2006 and Gaza operation of 2008-09. They were met with yet another avalanche of opprobrium and calumny by the same international community that had demanded the land-for-peace Israeli withdrawals in the first place. Worse, the U.N. Goldstone report, which essentially criminalized Israel's defensive operation in Gaza while whitewashing the casus belli -- the preceding and unprovoked Hamas rocket war -- effectively de-legitimized any active Israeli defense against its self-declared terror enemies. (3) Passive defense: Without forward or active defense, Israel is left with but the most passive and benign of all defenses -- a blockade to simply prevent enemy rearmament. Yet, as we speak, this too is headed for international de-legitimation. Even the United States is now moving toward having it abolished. But, if none of these is permissible, what's left? Ah, but that's the point. It's the point understood by the blockade-busting flotilla of useful idiots and terror sympathizers, by the Turkish front organization that funded it, by the automatic anti-Israel Third World chorus at the United Nations, and by the supine Europeans who've had quite enough of the Jewish problem. What's left? Nothing. The whole point of this relentless international campaign is to deprive Israel of any legitimate form of self-defense. Why, just last week, the Obama administration joined the jackals, and reversed four decades of U.S. practice, by signing onto a consensus document that singles out Israel's possession of nuclear weapons -- thus de-legitimizing Israel's very last line of defense: deterrence. The world is tired of these troublesome Jews, 6 million -- that number again -- hard by the Mediterranean, refusing every invitation to national suicide. For which they are relentlessly demonized, ghettoized and constrained from defending themselves, even as the more committed anti-Zionists -- Iranian in particular -- openly prepare a more final solution. letters@ charleskrauthammer.com Quote Everything you do is based on the choices you make. It's not your parents, your past relationships, your job, the economy, the weather, an argument, or your age that is to blame. You and only you are responsible for every decision and choice you make, period ... ... Wish more people would realize this. Quotes by Susan Gottesman
Members phkrause Posted June 5, 2010 Members Posted June 5, 2010 Pretty sad stuff. Also did you hear what Helen Thomas said? Not sure if it was today or yesterday. http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/blogs/abraham/detail??blogid=95&entry_id=65122 pk Quote phkrause When the righteous are in authority, the people rejoice; But when a wicked man rules, the people groan. Proverbs 29;2
doug yowell Posted June 5, 2010 Posted June 5, 2010 [ I don't think Bravus is anti-Jewish. He sees things from a different view point. Even though I disagree with him on this, he still has a right to his opinion, as we all do. pk pk, Bravus threatened to punch anyone who said he was anti-Semetic so I just wanted to see if he would actually do it! I figured if things started to get out of hand I'd call Alex over to protect me (I think he's the king fu expert around here).All in all, one good tongue-in-cheek deserves another! I don't know if Bravus is, himself, anti-Jewish, but his opinion of "rogue state" definitely is! Quote
bonnie Posted June 5, 2010 Author Posted June 5, 2010 Originally Posted By: pkrause [ I don't think Bravus is anti-Jewish. He sees things from a different view point. Even though I disagree with him on this, he still has a right to his opinion, as we all do. pk pk, Bravus threatened to punch anyone who said he was anti-Semetic so I just wanted to see if he would actually do it! I figured if things started to get out of hand I'd call Alex over to protect me (I think he's the king fu expert around here).All in all, one good tongue-in-cheek deserves another! I don't know if Bravus is, himself, anti-Jewish, but his opinion of "rogue state" definitely is! If Bravus requires the courtesy of the benefit of the doubt then I would expect he show that same courtesy. Reading in other topics it does not appear he is willing to do that. If you oppose Obama and what he is doing to this country and the direction he and his admin is taking it,it is either because he is black or because he is democrat. He is incompetent at best and at worst this is his version "of transforming America to what it should be". Most of us would feel the same no matter what his skin color was. If this were a republican president the republicans would not have to do anything. Liberals would have him run out of the White House on a rail.They certainly tried with Bush Quote Everything you do is based on the choices you make. It's not your parents, your past relationships, your job, the economy, the weather, an argument, or your age that is to blame. You and only you are responsible for every decision and choice you make, period ... ... Wish more people would realize this. Quotes by Susan Gottesman
karl Posted June 12, 2010 Posted June 12, 2010 Quote: Why was the offer refused? Because, as organizer Greta Berlin admitted, the flotilla was not about humanitarian relief but about breaking the blockade, i.e., ending Israel's inspection regime, which would mean unlimited shipping into Gaza and thus the unlimited arming of Hamas. If Arabs laid down their arms, there would cease to be bloodshed in the middle east. If Israelis laid down their arms, there would cease to be ISRAEL in the middle east. Look at the map here: http://i.infoplease.com/images/mapmiddleeast.gif Notice tiny Israel completely surrounded by hostile nations. Notice the land area. It's like an olive on an extra large pizza. And the entire rest of the pizza is pretending that if the olive would just give up part of its territory, everything will be OK. Sure. Yeah this is like believing all the other lies by "progressives." It's malarkey. I'll pardon the Israelis for NOT BELIEVING the lie. Quote
Members phkrause Posted June 12, 2010 Members Posted June 12, 2010 I needed my magnafying (sp) glass to see Israel on that map. I remember reading once that back in the early 50s that there were 1 million arabs to every israeli. Not sure what they are now, also not sure if the 1 million is correct either. But my father back after he got liberated by the US and married my mom he wanted to go and join the israeli army, but he never did go. Quote phkrause When the righteous are in authority, the people rejoice; But when a wicked man rules, the people groan. Proverbs 29;2
karl Posted June 13, 2010 Posted June 13, 2010 Comparison of Arab and Jewish Nobel Prize Winners - Islamic population outnumbers Jewish population 100 to 1 Arab/Islamic Nobel Prize Winners From a pool of 1.4 BILLION Muslims which are 20% of the world's population (2 out of every 10 people) Literature 1988 - Najib Mahfooz Peace 1978 - Anwar El-Sadat 1994 - Yasser Arafat * 2003 - Shirin Ebadi Chemistry 1999 - Ahmed Zewail Physics Abdus Salam * NOTE: Norwegian, Kaare Kristiansen, was a member of the Nobel Committee. He resigned in 1994 to protest the awarding of a Nobel "Peace Prize" to Yasser Arafat, whom he correctly labeled a "terrorist." --------------------- Jewish Nobel Prize Winners From a pool of 12 million Jews which are 0.2% of the World's Population (2 out of every 1,000 people) Literature 1910 - Paul Heyse 1927 - Henri Bergson 1958 - Boris Pasternak 1966 - Shmuel Yosef Agnon 1966 - Nelly Sachs 1976 - Saul Bellow 1978 - Isaac Bashevis Singer 1981 - Elias Canetti 1987 - Joseph Brodsky 1991 - Nadine Gordimer 2002 - Imre Kertesz World Peace 1911 - Alfred Fried 1911 - Tobias Asser 1968 - Rene Cassin 1973 - Henry Kissinger 1978 - Menachem Begin 1986 - Elie Wiesel 1994 - Shimon Peres 1994 - Yitzhak Rabin 1995 - Joseph Rotblat Chemistry 1905 - Adolph Von Baeyer 1906 - Henri Moissan 1910 - Otto Wallach 1915 - Richard Willstaetter 1918 - Fritz Haber 1943 - George Charles de Hevesy 1961 - Melvin Calvin 1962 - Max Ferdinand Perutz 1972 - William Howard Stein 1972 - C.B. Anfinsen 1977 - Ilya Prigogine 1979 - Herbert Charles Brown 1980 - Paul Berg 1980 - Walter Gilbert 1981 - Ronald Hoffmann 1982 - Aaron Klug 1985 - Herbert A. Hauptman 1985 - Jerome Karle 1986 - Dudley R. Herschbach 1988 - Robert Huber 1989 - Sidney Altman 1992 - Rudolph Marcus 1998 - Walter Kohn 2000 - Alan J. Heeger 2004 - Irwin Rose 2004 - Avram Hershko 2004 - Aaron Ciechanover Economics 1970 - Paul Anthony Samuelson 1971 - Simon Kuznets 1972 - Kenneth Joseph Arrow 1973 - Wassily Leontief 1975 - Leonid Kantorovich 1976 - Milton Friedman 1978 - Herbert A. Simon 1980 - Lawrence Robert Klein 1985 - Franco Modigliani 1987 - Robert M. Solow 1990 - Harry Markowitz 1990 - Merton Miller 1992 - Gary Becker 1993 - Rober Fogel 1994 - John Harsanyi 1994 - Reinhard Selten 1997 - Robert Merton 1997 - Myron Scholes 2001 - George Akerlof 2001 - Joseph Stiglitz 2002 - Daniel Kahneman 2005 - Robert (Israel) Aumann Medicine 1908 - Elie Metchnikoff 1908 - Paul Erlich 1914 - Robert Barany 1922 - Otto Meyerhof 1930 - Karl Landsteiner 1931 - Otto Warburg 1936 - Otto Loewi 1944 - Joseph Erlanger 1944 - Herbert Spencer Gasser 1945 - Ernst Boris Chain 1946 - Hermann Joseph Muller 1950 - Tadeus Reichstein 1952 - Selman Abraham Waksman 1953 - Hans Krebs 1953 - Fritz Albert Lipmann 1958 - Joshua Lederberg 1959 - Arthur Kornberg 1964 - Konrad Bloch 1965 - Francois Jacob 1965 - Andre Lwoff 1967 - George Wald 1968 - Marshall W. Nirenberg 1969 - Salvador Luria 1970 - Julius Axelrod 1970 - Sir Bernard Katz 1972 - Gerald Maurice Edelman 1975 - David Baltimore 1975 - Howard Martin Temin 1976 - Baruch S. Blumberg 1977 - Rosalyn Sussman Yalow 1977 - Andrew V. Schally 1978 - Daniel Nathans 1980 - Baruj Benacerraf 1984 - Cesar Milstein 1985 - Michael Stuart Brown 1985 - Joseph L. Goldstein 1986 - Stanley Cohen [& Rita Levi-Montalcini] 1988 - Gertrude Elion 1989 - Harold Varmus 1991 - Erwin Neher 1991 - Bert Sakmann 1993 - Richard J. Roberts 1993 - Phillip Sharp 1994 - Alfred Gilman 1994 - Martin Rodbell 1995 - Edward B. Lewis 1997 - Stanley B. Prusiner 1998 - Robert F. Furchgott 2000 - Eric R. Kandel 2002 - Sydney Brenner 2002 - Robert H. Horvitz Physics 1907 - Albert Abraham Michelson 1908 - Gabriel Lippmann 1921 - Albert Einstein 1922 - Niels Bohr 1925 - James Franck 1925 - Gustav Hertz 1943 - Gustav Stern 1944 - Isidor Issac Rabi 1945 - Wolfgang Pauli 1952 - Felix Bloch 1954 - Max Born 1958 - Igor Tamm 1958 - Il'ja Mikhailovich 1958 - Igor Yevgenyevich 1959 - Emilio Segre 1960 - Donald A. Glaser 1961 - Robert Hofstadter 1962 - Lev Davidovich Landau 1963 - Eugene P. Wigner 1965 - Richard Phillips Feynman 1965 - Julian Schwinger 1967 - Hans Albrecht Bethe 1969 - Murray Gell-Mann 1971 - Dennis Gabor 1972 - Leon N. Cooper 1973 - Brian David Josephson 1975 - Benjamin Mottleson 1976 - Burton Richter 1978 - Arno Allan Penzias 1978 - Peter L Kapitza 1979 - Stephen Weinberg 1979 - Sheldon Glashow 1988 - Leon Lederman 1988 - Melvin Schwartz 1988 - Jack Steinberger 1990 - Jerome Friedman 1992 - Georges Charpak 1995 - Martin Perl 1995 - Frederick Reines 1996 - David M. Lee 1996 - Douglas D. Osheroff 1997 - Claude Cohen-Tannoudji 2000 - Zhores I. Alferov 2003 - Vitaly Ginsburg 2003 - Alexei Abrikosov Quote
doug yowell Posted June 13, 2010 Posted June 13, 2010 eh,probably all Jesuits posing as Jews.It's getting kinda hard to tell which of these two sinister groups really controls the world these days! Quote
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