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I’m Mad at Christians

by Victoria Jackson

I was sitting in Church-Lady Helen’s living room. Someone commented on the illegal immigration problem. I said, “For some strange reason our government doesn’t know that illegal immigration is illegal.” Pious Helen stuck her nose in the air and proudly declared, “I never discuss politics.”

I felt like I’d just been punched in the face.

Is it a sin to watch the news? Maybe it’s okay to watch it, but not to talk about it.

I was sitting in the pew of my old church, sucking on a Coffee Nip, 30 calories, and mentally calculating my caloric intake of the day….so far, I had about 970 calories left for the day if I was to lose 20 pounds by…I focused on the sermon again.

The pastor said, “Okay…I’ll just come out and say it. (angry face) Instead of clicking a button and sending out some email information about the President…why don’t you spend 15 minutes praying for him?

He was looking right at me.

My mind shouted back at him, “Why can’t we do both?!”

I do both.

Are Christians allowed to read and think ? Or are we only allowed to pray?!

Now, when I say, “I’m mad at the Christians,” I include myself. I am a Christian. And, I must confess, if I am to be truthful, that…okay, I’ll just put it out there…the first time I ever voted I was forty something. There I said it. I know. It’s embarrassing. But I’m trying to make a point. It was the year Clinton said, “…that depends on the meaning of the word ‘is’.” I snapped. His adultery didn’t shock me so much. I had three preachers already who had done that. It was that haughty look, lack of shame, and zero repentance combined with that asinine sentence…the meaning of the word ‘is’ . That is what led me to the voting booth. I know. I’m sorry. Well, I always thought politics was for the middle age people. But then, one day, I was the middle age people.

So, I voted Clinton out. My vote counted. Bush won.

Back when I was 18 and first got the right to vote, I asked my Dad who I should vote for.

He said, “Anyone with an R next to their name.”

I said, “Why?”

He said, “They’re closest to the Bible.”

So, I voted for Richard Nixon, Ronald Reagan, and Ross Perot. No, just kidding.

I didn’t vote for anyone. I didn’t know how. I didn’t know where to go. I never saw a sign that said, “Vote Here.” I didn’t know how to “register” or even that I had to register. I didn’t know what the candidates stood for or how to find out. Word of mouth I guess, but no one I hung out with talked about politics, ever.

Al Franken told me once that his family discussed politics at the dinner table every night of his childhood. My family discussed the Bible every night at the dinner table. *Maybe that’s why the Liberals are running the country and not the Christians.

Also, Liberals consider Liberalism their religion. Therefore, they dedicate their souls to the State and we give our souls to Christ. But, I still don’t see why we can’t give our souls to God and our thoughts and energy to Him by being informed and involved in our culture, and keeping our freedoms protected and our country safe. I’m thinking, “Whatever your hand finds to do, do it with all your might.” (Ecclesiastes 9:10 ) So, I’m a U.S. citizen and I should be one with all my might. I should vote with all my might, which to me means be informed, be involved. “Go into all the world and preach the gospel.” (Mark 16:15) It doesn’t say ‘go into all the world, except the political world.’

We need candidates who represent what we believe in. Where will we find them? Look in the mirror.

In my 20’s, Reagan was President. I felt secure. I didn’t have to vote. The middle aged people had handled that for me. I did a handstand on the SNL Update desk to celebrate Reagan’s trip to Rejeivich. He went there, ended Communism, and tore down the Berlin Wall with his charm, courage and deployment of Pershing and cruise missiles in Europe. That’s my President. I am safe.

During my “SNL” years, I even did an Update piece on “Terrorists” but I made a big joke out of it. The word “Terrorist” meant nothing to me back then. I filmed my two year old swinging in the park on the Upper West Side and told Dennis Miller I was “looking for terrorists.” The joke was I was just using the news as an excuse to show home videos of my baby because I was a new, proud Mommy.

When I voted Clinton out, I forgot about politics for a while. The Bushes were in and I felt safe again. They knew the meaning of the word ‘is’.

Most of my pastors would not touch politics. I assumed they were afraid of losing their tax-exempt status and rightfully so. They are there to win souls, not pick presidents. But…

What if a fire is about to consume your neighbor’s house, are you supposed to just pray? or maybe pray and scream, “Fire! Fire!” and run over there and try to pull them out of the flames and save them…and their pets?

My friend Jimmy Labriola likes to say, “God Moves Mountains, But You Bring The Shovel.”

**It’s very interesting that Jewish synagogues and African American churches are saturated with political speech, but in evangelical churches it is strictly forbidden.

During the 2008 election, I asked a preacher relative of mine, “Why aren’t Christians getting involved in keeping this Marxist out of office? Don’t they know that in all Communist countries Christians are persecuted?”

He replied, “The church is supposed to win souls. Then, the people will vote the right way.”

I said, “Ooookaaay…but, I have a couple Christian friends who are voting the wrong way…

… And, you do realize that the Progressives consider your preaching “hate speech” , and there is a new law from Henry Waxman that could be “interpreted” in the liberally dominated courts to send you to jail for preaching the Bible.”

He shrugged.

He could get involved. But, no. Just shrug.

I have Congress on my speed dial now. Is that a sin?

I searched my soul. Jesus said all the commandments can be condensed into these two; “Love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, soul, and mind, and Love thy Neighbor as thyself.” ( Matthew 22:37-40 ) I think that means I should put God first and then, fight for my neighbors’ freedoms and protection, and help him out when he’s in a jam.

Proverbs 3:5-6: “…in all thy ways acknowledge Him and He shall direct thy paths.”

I try to do that:

I acknowledge Him in my stand up act.

I acknowledged Him in my recent college graduation.

I acknowledge Him in my political blogs.

I assumed that my fellow Christians were educating themselves along with me. They get Beck, Hannity, and Rush. They have brains. “The fear of the Lord is the beginning of wisdom.” (Proverbs 1:7)

Alas, they were not.

I spoke at a Tea Party in the Bible belt, where I have many conservative Christian relatives. Not one came.

What gives?

“Evil succeeds when good men do nothing.” Christians WAKE UP!

One friend owns a restaurant chain. I asked him, “Doesn’t this Obamacare affect your business? In a bad way?

He replied, “Um…yeah, but that’s not for four years, right?!”

???!!! What?!

So, come on brothers and sisters, quit preaching to the choir and acting perfect in front of each other. Go out into the real world and preach the gospel in your schools, in your work, and in your vote.

That’s what Jesus would do.

Practicing Jew and brilliant thinker, Dennis Prager said on his radio show recently, “If we’re going to take our country back, the Christians are going to have to get involved.”

I interviewed a few Christian friends. I asked them why so many Christians are not involved. Their answers:

“Don’t let politics get in the way of your mission.”

“A political leader cannot change society, only a changed heart can. A heart changed by Christ.”

“Some people have the gift/talent of politics. Some people have the gift/talent of art, or singing, or business.”

“I’m afraid to get involved. I’ll probably get audited or something.”

“I don’t want to make enemies.”

“I’ll lose clients.”

“We are from another kingdom, not this one. We are not of this world.”

“It is the end times. Jesus is coming back soon. The death of America and a one world government is inevitable.”

Jesus is coming back but He doesn’t want us to sit by the window and wait. He wants us to live in the present. I’m thinking, show up at a Tea Party with Ephesians 6:12 on your poster. Call your Congressman and pray for them on the phone. Teach your children about the founding fathers and basic civics. Read the Constitution with them. Tell your Representative # 202-224-2131 that abortion is murder, and you don’t want your taxes funding it. Tell Reid, Pelosi and Boxer that you don’t want the government deciding whether or not you get chemotherapy when you have cancer. Support Sekulow and ACLJ. Call the FCC Complaint Line # 888-225-5322, press 1-3-0 to speak to someone. Tell them you want to keep your Freedom of Speech, and your Conservative and Christian radio. Call Diversity Czar Mark Lloyd, # 202-418-7390 and tell him that “diversity” means Christians and Conservatives are allowed to speak too. Contact the Media Research Center’s Free Speech Alliance. Watch Glenn Beck and Hannity. Compare them to Joy Behar and CNN. Who is lying? Seek the truth. I know we don’t have time. We are raising families and going to work and soccer games and church. But…

Life is a mission field. Politics is just one small slice of life. Waving the banner of Christ in the political arena is just as important as waving it on a mission trip to Mexico or Haiti, or waving it in a jungle in Africa.

Let’s put Jesus back into politics. He can fix it. He can fix anything. Luke 1:37.

http://bighollywood.breitbart.com/vjackson/2010/06/09/im-mad-at-christians/#more-357966

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"So, I voted Clinton out. My vote counted. Bush won."

"When I voted Clinton out, I forgot about politics for a while. The Bushes were in and I felt safe again. They knew the meaning of the word ‘is’."

Clinton didn't get voted out he couldn't run again!!!!!

"It’s very interesting that Jewish synagogues and African American churches are saturated with political speech, but in evangelical churches it is strictly forbidden."

Not sure about African American Churches, but Rabbi's don't waste there time with politics when speaking to there synagogues, can't say the same about those listening though. I did hear politics from Adventist pulpits though.

Personally I disagree with her. I do believe Christians talk about politics almost everywhere, an example is this forum! They are very passionate about politics, again look at the threads on this forum. I know of no place where politics is not discussed in or forbidden in Christian circles. She either doesn't get around or she's spinning the facts.

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When the righteous are in authority, the people rejoice; But when a wicked man rules, the people groan. Proverbs 29;2
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Also the part about liberals giving their souls to the state. I think conservatives tend to do that more. But anyway...

"Always forgive your enemies; nothing annoys them so much." - Oscar Wilde

�Do to others whatever you would like them to do to you. This is the essence of all that is taught in the law and the prophets." - Jesus

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Also the part about liberals giving their souls to the state. I think conservatives tend to do that more. But anyway...

Can you explain how?

Everything you do is based on the choices you make. It's not your parents, your past relationships, your job, the economy, the weather, an argument, or your age that is to blame. You and only you are responsible for every decision and choice you make, period ... ... Wish more people would realize this.

Quotes by Susan Gottesman

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It's just an observation of mine based on who tends to idolize (no, not literally) the founding fathers, love the military to death (pun!), and stuff like that.

"Always forgive your enemies; nothing annoys them so much." - Oscar Wilde

�Do to others whatever you would like them to do to you. This is the essence of all that is taught in the law and the prophets." - Jesus

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It's just an observation of mine based on who tends to idolize (no, not literally) the founding fathers, love the military to death (pun!), and stuff like that.

That is quite a leap. You have a misconception concerning how some regard the founding fathers. Imperfect,fallible men. Men that some believe were operating under the hand of God leading this country to it's place in prophecy.If you read history and the federalist papers,the insight of these men,light years ahead of the time in which they lived,God's direction is hard to deny. Many believe and I certainly do, that God led to the discovery and settling of this land. Not always right,many wrongs committed,but that was by fallible human beings.To you, that may be undeserved respect.

The sacrifice of the men and women in the military down thru the years since this country was founded is not something to dismiss.

While you seem to have a resentment of the military,the respect some of us have for those willing to give their lives for our freedom is not misplaced.The respect is not for their desire to kill

Whether a war is agreed with and has the backing of all the anti military crowd is immaterial.The willingness and the actions of the military is the same.

Everything you do is based on the choices you make. It's not your parents, your past relationships, your job, the economy, the weather, an argument, or your age that is to blame. You and only you are responsible for every decision and choice you make, period ... ... Wish more people would realize this.

Quotes by Susan Gottesman

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Originally Posted By: SivartM
It's just an observation of mine based on who tends to idolize (no, not literally) the founding fathers, love the military to death (pun!), and stuff like that.

That is quite a leap. You have a misconception concerning how some regard the founding fathers. Imperfect,fallible men. Men that some believe were operating under the hand of God leading this country to it's place in prophecy.If you read history and the federalist papers,the insight of these men,light years ahead of the time in which they lived,God's direction is hard to deny. Many believe and I certainly do, that God led to the discovery and settling of this land. Not always right,many wrongs committed,but that was by fallible human beings.To you, that may be undeserved respect.

The sacrifice of the men and women in the military down thru the years since this country was founded is not something to dismiss.

While you seem to have a resentment of the military,the respect some of us have for those willing to give their lives for our freedom is not misplaced.The respect is not for their desire to kill

Whether a war is agreed with and has the backing of all the anti military crowd is immaterial.The willingness and the actions of the military is the same.

Amen!

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Of course I respect the founding fathers and those in the military. I don't have a resentment of the military, I just don't think people should kill each other. Killing people usually causes them to die.

But Americanism is definitely a religion in my opinion, and many different kinds of people subscribe to it, conservatives and liberals. Just look at all the shrines, temples, and statues in Washington D.C. (I've been there, by the way, and enjoyed learning about America's history).

"Always forgive your enemies; nothing annoys them so much." - Oscar Wilde

�Do to others whatever you would like them to do to you. This is the essence of all that is taught in the law and the prophets." - Jesus

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Of course I respect the founding fathers and those in the military. I don't have a resentment of the military, I just don't think people should kill each other. Killing people usually causes them to die.

Everything you do is based on the choices you make. It's not your parents, your past relationships, your job, the economy, the weather, an argument, or your age that is to blame. You and only you are responsible for every decision and choice you make, period ... ... Wish more people would realize this.

Quotes by Susan Gottesman

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I don't think any rational person says "Oh Goody,the military gets to kill"

I am grateful to all those that have served. It may have been a toss up without them whether I would be speaking German or Japanese.

"Always forgive your enemies; nothing annoys them so much." - Oscar Wilde

�Do to others whatever you would like them to do to you. This is the essence of all that is taught in the law and the prophets." - Jesus

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Originally Posted By: bonnie

I don't think any rational person says "Oh Goody,the military gets to kill"

I am grateful to all those that have served. It may have been a toss up without them whether I would be speaking German or Japanese.

Of course nobody says that (well, some people do, but we'd both say they're not rational), but most people would say that we should kill people.

Everything you do is based on the choices you make. It's not your parents, your past relationships, your job, the economy, the weather, an argument, or your age that is to blame. You and only you are responsible for every decision and choice you make, period ... ... Wish more people would realize this.

Quotes by Susan Gottesman

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I saw a memorial to the ones you listed.Not sure how that qualifies for a temple

They're based on Roman and Greek temples. Obelisks go back to Babylon, I think. You can see the rationalist pantheon on the outside of Union Station.

Of course I don't think anyone literally worships there (or worships the founding fathers). But the whole thing reminds me very much of a religion.

"Always forgive your enemies; nothing annoys them so much." - Oscar Wilde

�Do to others whatever you would like them to do to you. This is the essence of all that is taught in the law and the prophets." - Jesus

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Originally Posted By: bonnie

I saw a memorial to the ones you listed.Not sure how that qualifies for a temple

They're based on Roman and Greek temples. Obelisks go back to Babylon, I think. You can see the rationalist pantheon on the outside of Union Station.

Of course I don't think anyone literally worships there (or worships the founding fathers). But the whole thing reminds me very much of a religion.

How does the above cause you to think this......

Also the part about liberals giving their souls to the state. I think conservatives tend to do that more. But anyway...

It's just an observation of mine based on who tends to idolize (no, not literally) the founding fathers, love the military to death (pun!), and stuff like that.

Respect for the founders incredible insight and drafting a document unheard of in the world at that time.Gratitude and respect for those that will give their lives to protect you and me is viewed as giving their souls to the state because you think a memorial was copied from a temple??

Everything you do is based on the choices you make. It's not your parents, your past relationships, your job, the economy, the weather, an argument, or your age that is to blame. You and only you are responsible for every decision and choice you make, period ... ... Wish more people would realize this.

Quotes by Susan Gottesman

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Quote:
During the 2008 election, I asked a preacher relative of mine, “Why aren’t Christians getting involved in keeping this Marxist out of office?

Some of us were, but obviously not enough. We tried to raise the awareness of Americans that this unknown guy with no actual values and with no documented past who was politically to the left of the Chicago 7 would be bad for us.

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Almost sounds like she was an Adventist!Same old apathy towards the governmental sponsored moral and intellectual declension of our country.The Pilate syndrome.

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Of course I respect the founding fathers and those in the military. I don't have a resentment of the military, I just don't think people should kill each other. Killing people usually causes them to die.

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SM, What do you do with those who don't care about killing people? Not killing those types usually causes other people to die. What would be your Final Solution? How do you respect those who are paid to kill other people??

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