Adventist Church affirms Biblical Creation in Atlanta...

[doug yowell]

Originally Posted By: Mark Aurelius

But the impetus for evolution has always been to write God out of our history, whatever contradictory discoveries are made.

As a scientific theory, I doubt that evolution itself has any feelings for or against God at all. Maybe you mean "atheists".

Seems like theistic evolutionists,despite their feelings about God, have no trouble writing Him out of the creation history, not just athiests.

[phkrause]

Seems like theistic evolutionists,despite their feelings about God, have no trouble writing Him out of the creation history, not just athiests.

Good point Doug. Unlike our own Bravus, who I have a great deal of respect for, most would love to or have written God out.

[SivartM]

Seems like theistic evolutionists,despite their feelings about God, have no trouble writing Him out of the creation history, not just athiests.

How do you get that? They only believe in a different method of creation.

[Neil D]

Originally Posted By: Neil D

,,,,[looking this way and that]

....Well, you get two atoms with an attraction between them......

Atoms or Adams?

[speaking slowly] ev-vooo-looo-shun...evolution, Doug...NOT biology....

[doug yowell]

Originally Posted By: doug yowell

Seems like theistic evolutionists,despite their feelings about God, have no trouble writing Him out of the creation history, not just athiests.

How do you get that? They only believe in a different method of creation.

Right. They believe that God starts the whole thing and then checks out and lets it create itself (and then tries to trick us into believing that He did it in only 6 24hour periods).

[Bravus]

Nope. That would be deists. Theistic evolutionists believe God was intimately involved in guiding evolution at every step.

[doug yowell]

Atoms or Adams?

[Bravus]

And the statement that the purpose of evolution is to get rid of God is a prime example of the kind of ignorance SivartM was talking about. It has been driven, from the very first, by the drive to make sense of the evidence we see in the world around us.

[doug yowell]

And the statement that the purpose of evolution is to get rid of God is a prime example of the kind of ignorance SivartM was talking about. It has been driven, from the very first, by the drive to make sense of the evidence we see in the world around us.

In other words, the account that there was a God, Who,in 6 literal days, created this world around us, doesn't make sense.So we're not getting rid of God, just the God as described in the biblical creation account.

[John317]

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Bravus: Theistic evolutionists believe God was intimately involved in guiding evolution at every step.

Do you believe that God planned for humans to spring from evolutionary processes?

On this view, when and how did the Fall occur?

It seems to me that if evolution was the means by which God created the world, sin was necessary as part of that very process.

As I read the observations of Charles Darwin and other evolutionists as to the way they describe the workings of evolution, I have a hard time seeing the hand of a loving, merciful, holy, righteous God.