Hot Potatoes

[lazarus]

Every year I do a series of sermons on controversial/difficult topics. I call it Hot Potatoes of course stolen from Martin Weber book.

This year I've preached on the KJV only issue, last Sabbath I preached a sermon entitled "The Most Segregated Hour". You can guess what that is about.

Any topic suggestions?

[abelisle]

"Whites - where did we/church go wrong"?

About the non-existent white membership in our urban regions.

[Stan]

I just spent a few days with Martin Weber.

[lazarus]

Is he working on another Adventist Hot Potatoes? Tell him he should.

[Stan]

He, like about a dozen other leaders have consented to ne interviewed here... I just need time to do that....

[lazarus]

Is John Paulein on that list? He would have some interesting things to say on the common ground issue and the various "mosque" threads we've had.

[Gail]

Every year I do a series of sermons on controversial/difficult topics. I call it Hot Potatoes of course stolen from Martin Weber book.

Nice! I wish I could be there!

[Woody]

Is John Paulein on that list? He would have some interesting things to say on the common ground issue and the various "mosque" threads we've had.

Woody likes your excellent choice.

[Liz]

Why don't you copy your sermons here, for those of us who can't enjoy them "live"? I would love to "hear" these.

[phkrause]

Why don't you copy your sermons here, for those of us who can't enjoy them "live"? I would love to "hear" these.

Great idea Liz.

[aldona]

Quote:

I call it Hot Potatoes of course stolen from Martin Weber book.

...which was, in turn, stolen from Tony Campolo's series of books of the same name.

Here's a "hot potatoes" topic for you:

"Adventist (Insert Name Here); Our Tendency to Plagiarise/Steal Ideas from Other Christians Without Acknowledgement or Attribution, and make an Adventist version thereof."

AJ

[lazarus]

at least I confessed.

Anyway, any topics anyone?

[Bravus]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NBWQCHb95rg

[Woody]

I wonder who 'really' owns Hot Potatoes?

[Tom Wetmore]

I really owned some hot potato soup tonight for supper...

[Bravus]

Did you p\/\/n20r it?

[Kevin H]

Every year I do a series of sermons on controversial/difficult topics. I call it Hot Potatoes of course stolen from Martin Weber book.

Thinking of that book, all I can say is be careful with these topics. Some of the first steps in William Glasser's Choice theory is that we get information from the outside world, which we filter through our knowlege filter and our value's filter.

While I really like Martin Weber as a person; he did not have the knowlege filter to be fair to all the topics he dealt with. Thus there were some very excellent chapters, but other chapters that he was just clueless about and was able to discuss in a fair, respectful and useful way. He was honestly trying to make sense, but did not have the foundation to build on, his mind filtered the information through a wrong model and kept wanting to make square pegs fit round holes. And sadly at least his his work on say Graham Maxwell, had lead to self fulfilling problems. People read what he wrote about what he imagins Maxwell to be teaching, and they end up likeing Maxwell and support Maxwell, but their view of Maxwell is not what Dr. Maxwell teaches, but a mish-mash of what Dr. Maxwell may be teaching but with Weber's misunderstandings, and they are teacwhing others and believing in their hearts that what Weber said about Maxwell is what they are suposed to believe.

I use to consider myself much more Maxillian than I do today. Part is realizing (and much of this I still need a clearer grasp of) some differences between methods used from Graham Maxwell, from what he probably should have done, althought believing that Maxwell himself still reached some correct conclusions, in as far as he went. But another reason for my considering myself as less Maxwellian today than I use to is because too many who claim to be Maxwellian have this mishmash of Maxwells ideas mixed with things that people such as Weber and others say Dr. Maxwell is teaching. While I believe that what Maxwell himself teaches is generaly consistant with the Bible, I find the ideas that Weber said that Dr. Maxwell teaches to be very unbiblical. Too many who have read this and think they have sided with Maxwell have accepted these un-Biblical that comes out of Weber's and other's writings as their own.

Please becareful to be fair and respectful to the views you are criticizing otherwise you may mislead many down the wrong path.

[lazarus]

Please becareful to be fair and respectful to the views you are criticizing otherwise you may mislead many down the wrong path.

It's not really about criticizing anything or anyone. It's about what the Bible says about a particular topic that is/has been controversial or difficult.

[lazarus]

Bravus, So.... Is Kids TV turning our kids minds into mashed potato? weird dancing? The feminisation of the American male. Cheers. That was a rich source of ideas.