Less Recognaized Salvation Measurements

[Raphael]

Salvation is a process. How do we know our levels or stages in these processes apart from the well noticed, such as the laundry list below.

Some well known measurements:

1. number of rightoues deeds (refuted as against divine grace)

2. compliance of recognized SDA outward(surface) living standards, like:

-faithful church attendance and tithing/offering

-absence of outward disapproved behaviour like smoking/cursing/etc

3. drifting with the (professed Christian) crowd of upholding what ever the majority does (unrepenting wealthy crooks from all over the world are attended instant religious honor (local to executive commitee membership etc), sanctity and first class prioritized service by pastors and SDA organization workers. (this is either well stated unmistakable hypocrisy without arguments or religious politicians in action)

[Gerr]

18 But grow in the grace and knowledge of our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ. Glory be to him now and forever! Amen.

The Everyday Bible : New Century Version. 2005 (2 Pe 3:17–18). Nashville, TN.: Thomas Nelson, Inc.

This work must continue until we are all joined together in the same faith and in the same knowledge of the Son of God. We must become like a mature person, growing until we become like Christ and have his perfection.

The Everyday Bible : New Century Version. 2005 (Eph 4:13). Nashville, TN.: Thomas Nelson, Inc.

[Raphael]

This is something already understood by many but not the majority...

In our modern world, measurement is a crucial necessity to calculate and qualify, from Nobel winning micro heat equations, Fortune enterprise progress reports and modern management quotas & targets.

Laborers rush to fill their production quotas, salesmen pitch to reach their targets, employees overwork to be rewarded overtime and business men endeavor to quench their insatiable thirst for more.

How about the remnant church who are generally living from the remnant crumbs of this decadent world, in this remnant era?

Spread the gospel and do all the commandments was the command but evangelizing was never done by Christ and so, each person has respective duties, perhaps of tilling the ground or carrying the hoes to the field while doing good has no limits and will continue till endless ages. So what among other measurements may we individually use that may indicate better accuracy for our times?

(1)Take my cross (for it is light), (2)ye shall have tribulation and (3)ye shall not bear more than the Master were His veiled hints in acquainting us with the real meter to fill.

The quota of pain and suffering is the answer.

Therefore as diligent workers. laborers and employees of the Master we should hasten and be as Apostle Paul in stating "be happy when tried" and consider trials as opportunities to 'ascertain' salvation.

I do agree with th doctrine of welcoming new believers with infant food but we must be wary of being misled to believe in prosperity gospels of living happily and then later considering suffering & hardship as unwelcome frowned upon guests (in contrast these visitors should be well received and made to feel at home (in a sense)).

[skyblue888]

Ur avatar is distracting! :)

[Raphael]

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[Raphael]

Some readings sound alarming omens upon torment absent blessed lives. I suppose there must be some truth in their dreadful fears due to the horrific tales of bitter feud between the children of the light and the darkness since ages past but it is best to find out and learn firsthand about this 'Matrix' world of illusion... what else if not through "spiritual sight and PROWESS..."

Problem is, most lack the fanatical academical objective inquisitiveness for truth and have been tamed by flock leaders, peers and surroundings to simply follow crowd and resist turning into nails that stand out else gets hammered over, bringing about bowing reeds, escaping spine fractures and awarding sought mortal longevity, fulfillment and finally undying demise.