Large embarrassment to the Adventist church.......

[olger]

RUSH: Sheila Jackson Lee, apparently, is the "congressional boss from hell." There's a story today at The Daily Caller website. This is the website of Chatsworth Osborne, Jr. It's by Jonathan Strong. "A lot of politicians give nicknames to their aides. George W. Bush famously referred to his attorney general, Alberto Gonzalez, as 'Fredo.' Mitch Daniels, then head of the Office of Management and Budget, was known as 'The Blade.' Barack Obama reportedly called Larry Summers, his chief economic advisor, 'Dr. Kevorkian.' Rep. Sheila Jackson Lee of Texas also hands out nicknames to the people who work for her. The Houston Democrat addressed one of her employees as 'you stupid...'"

I don't even know how to... I don't know how to say this word in code without actually saying the word and offending everybody. Let's see. "You stupid mother..." is as close as I can get. "The Houston Democrat addressed one of her employees," who's quoted in the story, "as 'you stupid mother[...].' And not just once, but 'constantly,' recalls the staffer, 'like, all the time.' Another Jackson Lee aide recounts the time her parents came to Washington to visit: 'They were really excited to come to the congressional office. They're small town people, so for them it was a huge deal. They were actually sitting in the main lobby waiting area.... (Jackson Lee) came out screaming at me over a scheduling change. Called me a "stupid idiot. Don't be a moron, you foolish girl" and actually did this in front of my parents, of all things.'

"Yet another staffer remembers requesting a meeting early on in her tenure to ask how best to serve the congresswoman. Jackson Lee's response: 'What? What did you say to me? Who are you, the Congresswoman? You haven't been elected. You don't set up meetings with me! I tell you! You know what? You are the most unprofessional person I have ever met in my life.' With that, Jackson Lee hung up the phone." I've always thought this woman was, you know, an order of fries short of a Happy Meal, but it's worse than that. She's got some staffer on the phone asking: Okay, how best can I serve you?

"'What? What did you say to me? Who are you, the Congresswoman? You haven't been elected. You don't set up meetings with me! I tell you!' ... According to the same staffer, Jackson Lee 'would always say, "What am I a prostitute? Am I your prostitute? You can't prostitute me.""' Capitol Hill is famous for its demanding, insensitive bosses," it says here. "Yet even by the harsh standards of Congress, Sheila Jackson Lee stands out. She may be the worst boss in Washington. 'It's like being an Iraq War veteran,' says someone who worked for her. Strangers may say, "oh I know what you've been through." No, you really don't. Because until you've experienced it.... People don't tell the worst of the stories, because they're really unbelievable.'

"For some, a job in Jackson Lee's office proved not just emotionally but physically perilous. One staffer recalls a frank conversation with his doctor, who told him he needed to quit. 'It's your life or your job,' the doctor told him, warning that the stress and long hours were wreaking havoc on his body. Only a few on staff fought back. One of Jackson Lee's drivers became so frustrated with her abuse the person pulled the car over and demand she stop: 'She's screaming and swearing. "M.F." everything. Finally I slammed on the brakes and told her to get the hell out of my car. I'm like "I can't drive with you like this. Either get out, or you can calm down." And she's like "you need to go or get fired." I'm like, "that's fine. But I'm either leaving without you or you can calm down,"' the staffer said.

"Jackson Lee then threatened to call the police and claim she was being held hostage in the car. But she finally did calm down when the staffer called her bluff, offering to flag down a Capitol Police officer to explain the situation. Former aide Michael McQueery said his experience with other 'difficult' bosses on the Hill prepared him for how to handle Jackson Lee. 'I've worked for two other members. They did the same thing,' he said. 'It was at first, I'm not going to lie to you, it was a rough patch with her and me. But I took her to the side and I let her know that, you know, "Congresswoman, I'm a man before anything else." And after that, we had no problems. We had no problems,' McQueery said.

"Of the scores of Jackson Lee staffers contacted by The Daily Caller, only McQueery offered an affirmative defense of the congresswoman's management techniques. 'A lot of people just did not know how to go, and say, "hey, that's inappropriate," McQueery said. In 2007, on a quiet afternoon on the fourth floor of the Rayburn House Office building, Caroline Stephens, then a low-level staffer for California Republican Rep. Gary Miller, walked down the hall to her office, taking note of an open door that was normally closed. Congress was in recess, and the 435 lawmakers who drive the frenetic pace on Capitol Hill were home in their districts glad-handing constituents.

"For that reason, the door to Jackson Lee's office was open and the sounds emanating from inside were pleasant laughter and conversation. 'You could tell when she wasn't there,' Stephens said. That was because on a day in which Congress was in session, a different set of sounds often came through closed doors to Jackson Lee's office: screaming and, many times, crying. Later that day, a skinny young black man with his hair pulled back in a ponytail walked into Miller's office and asked Stephens for a favor. Could he borrow a knife to cut a birthday cake? Stephens, who'd seen the man working in Jackson Lee's office, was happy to help, with only the request to 'make sure you bring it back, that's our only one.'

"He laughed. 'We would never leave a knife around when the congresswoman was here,' he said. As Stephens put it, 'that's when it all clicked that they are really afraid of her.' 'I am a queen, and I demand to be treated like a queen,' Jackson Lee once said, and apparently she wasn't kidding. Her employees describe waiting for their boss for hours on end, sometimes late into the night, while she attends events or even sits in her office watching TV." Hmm. I wonder... You know, I've read two pages. The full piece is seven pages.

So I basically read a little over a fourth of this piece to you, and congressional staffers do not get overtime. They are not unionized (chuckles), by the way. (interruption) Well, I guess it... (interruption) It takes a strong man to calm her down, but that wasn't my observation. My observation is I wonder what the race of most of her employees is, the way she treating these people? Can you imagine...? Are you surprised by this? I'm not. This kind of thing doesn't surprise me at all. Then they have to listen to her sit there and ask if the Mars rover is on the moon, and you can imagine how tough it can be for them."

Cheeks red, yet?

I'm just glad Limbaugh didn't mention her "church." What an embarrassment.

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[Woody]

I agree.

[Woody]

I wonder if she gets disfellowshipped?

[Dr. Shane]

She is probably not the only Adventist that slips into doing things the way the world does. Being such a powerful politician, it may be hard to keep the ego under control. I think she really needs our prayers.

[Stan]

why is this US politics in townhall?

[Woody]

She is probably not the only Adventist that slips into doing things the way the world does. Being such a powerful politician, it may be hard to keep the ego under control. I think she really needs our prayers.

Not many politicians are that far gone.

[LifeHiscost]

Cheeks red, yet?

I'm just glad Limbaugh didn't mention her "church." What an embarrassment.

g

Personally I see no reason to be embarrassed. Each person is responsible for their own behavior.

"No, a true Jew is one whose heart is right with God. And true circumcision is not merely obeying the letter of the law; rather, it is a change of heart produced by God’s Spirit. And a person with a changed heart seeks praise from God, not from people. "Romans 2:29 NLT

God blesses!

[CoAspen]

why is this US politics in townhall?

For the same reasons other none TH subjects are posted....because they can!!

[Woody]

Originally Posted By: Stan Jensen

why is this US politics in townhall?

For the same reasons other none TH subjects are posted....because they can!!

Religious topics are frequently posted on Townhall. I don't know of any reason for that to stop. And besides ... WHO CARES?

[Woody]

In my mind ... since this is half politics and half religion .. IT CAN STAY. lol so there

[Woody]

unless you want to cut it in half and post half in politics and half in Townhall.

[Bravus]

I care. I am personally offended and annoyed by having to read Rush Limbaugh's nonsense in what is meant to be a safe and appropriate forum for people from all over the world.

I vote the whole thread is moved to 'Politics' ASAP.

Rush Limbaugh digs up scuttlebutt on a Democrat Congresswoman and rants about it. That's purest US politics.

The article doesn't even mention that she's SDA, only olger does.

Away with it, says I.

[Woody]

in all me days ... I never pictured me sticking up for Olger

what has become of me?

[Woody]

I care. I am personally offended and annoyed by having to read Rush Limbaugh's nonsense in what is meant to be a safe and appropriate forum for people from all over the world.

I vote the whole thread is moved to 'Politics' ASAP.

Rush Limbaugh digs up scuttlebutt on a Democrat Congresswoman and rants about it. That's purest US politics.

The article doesn't even mention that she's SDA, only olger does.

Away with it, says I.

Hey Mate ... you love US politics and you know it

you even love to hate Rush

[Dr. Shane]

I will agree that Rush Limbaugh is a poor source of information for the story. With a little assistance from Google, I am sure another source of the same story could be found.

The issue really isn't political as it doesn't focus on any political issues such as war, welfare, taxes, abortion, etc. The focus is on Shelia Jackson Lee's behavior.

Shelia Jackson Lee and Roscoe Bartlett are both Adventist members of Congress. They both are often invited to speak to groups of Adventists from Sabbath morning service to camp meetings. Roscoe Bartlett made the news in early 2009 when he visited the White House and expressed his doubts to Obama that the stimulus plan would be able to prevent the unemployment rate from going above 8%.

Here is a link to the story that Rush was reading from.

Congressional Boss Hell

[Dr. Shane]

When I just Google her name and nothing else, this is the first listing that comes up.

Morning Dose of Mean: Shelia Jackson Lee Uncensored

I think it is a good thing they didn't mention she is a Seventh-day Adventist.

Here is something good she does.

Gospel Music Heritage

[Woody]

On a more religious note: May I point out that in the Church Manual under "Reasons for Which Members Shall be Disciplined":

#2 States profanity as a reason.

And also it is mentioned that members may be "disfellowshipped" "to protect it's fair name and its Christian Standards".

If ever there was a public offense ... this is it.

[Dr. Shane]

But is she really any more guilty of living a double life than many other members of the church? So many act one way on Sabbath morning and another way the rest of the week. What she needs is our prayers. Hopefully God can use all this bad press as an eye-opener for her and it will lead to repentance.

[Woody]

The Church Manual states:

"The church may deem it necessary, even though a sincere confession has been made, to disfellowship the member to protect its fair name."

[Woody]

Hey Shane ... if this religious discussion continues ... I may have to request that it be moved to TownHall.

[John317]

I think all Americcans have a right and a duty to know what their representatives are like. I hope the article is a big lie, but I doubt very much that it is.

It shouldn't matter what political persuasion or party she belongs to. If she behaves that way, it is a disgrace and voters ought to be aware of it.

Evidently she certainly doesn't represent Christ or our church in any positive way with the people who work for her.

It seems to me more reasonable & appropriate to be outraged at the Congresswoman than at the messengers.

[Dr. Shane]

Well, given Shelia has high visibility and with Rush bringing this to the attention of all his listeners, there will probably be a lot of Google searches. I don't think we want this in a public forum where the search engines could pick up on it. Then the rest of the world would attach the name Adventist to her. It is probably best to have this topic in a private forum.

I think we have to be careful not to "gossip" about her either and try to give her the benefit of the doubt. It is a sad story to be sure. We would much rather here that Adventists in public life are known by their kindness and compassion than by what we are reading about her.

[Woody]

Well ... I suppose there are a number of forums where this could be moved to then. Natter Matters would be one. SDAs believe could be one. Townhall could be one. Politics would be one. Although I think the topic is not about politics. The title of the thread says it is an embarrassment to the Adventist Church. That is the topic. Not politics.

[doug yowell]

I think all Americcans have a right and a duty to know what their representatives are like. I hope the article is a big lie, but I doubt very much that it is.

It shouldn't matter what political persuasion or party she belongs to. If she behaves that way, it is a disgrace and voters ought to be aware of it.

Evidently she certainly doesn't represent Christ or our church in any positive way with the people who work for her.

It seems to me more reasonable & appropriate to be outraged at the Congresswoman than at the messengers.

And if the church doesn't follow thru with an investigation of the charges, who then will God hold responsible for the consequences to His and the church's reputation,especially if the report is true? "Everyday my name is blasphemed among the Gentiles." This gal needs an intervention and pronto!!

[Woody]

Quote:

And if the church doesn't follow thru with an investigation of the charges, who then will God hold responsible for the consequences to His and the church's reputation,especially if the report is true? "Everyday my name is blasphemed among the Gentiles." This gal needs an intervention and pronto!!

This is a political forum. Please don't mention the church. It's not good to mix church and State. grin grin