Stan Posted March 27, 2005 Posted March 27, 2005 Have you ever come across those, and I am not talking about people on here, who feel, and express it, that if you are not condemning or hitting non-Adventist you are not preaching the gospel. Preaching it plain to any who differ? Unsolicited? Why are they like that? Quote If you receive benefit to being here please help out with expenses. https://www.paypal.me/clubadventist Administrator of a few websites like https://adventistdating.com
Moderators LynnDel Posted March 27, 2005 Moderators Posted March 27, 2005 I come across that more with Adventists dealing with almost-Adventists, particularly some of the older folks who want to set the younger ones on the straight path, and unfortunately send them on a straight path right out of the church. I previously posted about the upcoming Lake Tahoe Campmeeting topics, one of which was something like "Loving Your Kids Enough to Keep Them From Leaving the Church." There was a bit of negative response to that topic, with some people thinking that the presenter was going to put parents on a guilt trip. I don't think it's the parents who are the main problem, and I don't believe the series will be addressing parents so much as she will be addressing the church. How does the church love our kids enough to keep them from leaving? How can we help our kids learn to face the inevitable do-gooders who don't have the grace of God in their approach? How can we help new church members face the same thing? I don't believe most denominations have this problem as much as we do. I'm pretty sure I know the reason for the presence of more condemnation in our denomination than others, but I am interested to see what others might think. Sorry for being slightly off topic. LD Quote LD
Administrators Naomi Posted March 27, 2005 Administrators Posted March 27, 2005 </font><blockquote><font class="small">Quote:</font><hr /> Have you ever come across those, and I am not talking about people on here, who feel, and express it, that if you are not condemning or hitting non-Adventist you are not preaching the gospel. Preaching it plain to any who differ? Unsolicited? Why are they like that? <hr /></blockquote><font class="post"> Actually I know of one other rather large Church that is even worse than we ... and, they feel it an obligation because they are positive that they are going to be the only people who go to Heaven. Quote If your dreams are not big enough to scare you, they are not big enough for God
Administrators Naomi Posted March 27, 2005 Administrators Posted March 27, 2005 </font><blockquote><font class="small">Quote:</font><hr /> ......... particularly some of the older folks who want to set the younger ones on the straight path, and unfortunately send them on a straight path right out of the church. .......... I'm pretty sure I know the reason for the presence of more condemnation in our denomination than others, but I am interested to see what others might think. Sorry for being slightly off topic. LD <hr /></blockquote><font class="post"> Without sounding judgemental, I must agree about "setting the younger ones on the straight path" This is not a new issue, ask most people who grew up Adventist. For some it works ... for far too many others it simply drives them away! This is definitely <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/129933-offtopic2.gif" alt="" /> but, I knew a lady who returned to the Church and on the day she was accepted back into the Church by Affirmation of Faith. Her devoted, Godly, loving mother was there, along with other family members. After the service concluded the mother publicly said "Now you are again a part of our family!" Cold! The daughter's account of her feelings are, "I took it on the chin, one more time to be an Adventist. (: To this day the daughters feelings concerning "The Church" are that of believing in it's teachings and wanting to be a real part of it, but having difficulity trusting members or feeling real love and respect for the denomination. Others ... feeling misjudged and deeply hurt emotionally.. go away and never rturn. And, they are those raised Adventist. I often wonder how others feel about being force-feed our gospel. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/1_prayer001.gif" alt="" /> IMO, a little more: <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/sparkleheart.gif" alt="" />, and a little less condemnation could go a long way towards the hastening the return of our Lord. Quote If your dreams are not big enough to scare you, they are not big enough for God
Guest Posted March 27, 2005 Posted March 27, 2005 A little more love????? A pastor once mentioned in a sermon that love is often more caught than taught... Well the criteria FOR IF SOMEONE LOVES HIM according to Jesus speaking to Peter after the resurrection was....feed my sheep... Since the flock is not getting fed...the unconscious message that is caught is that the pastor doesn't love Jesus....thus since they are the example....the people don't love.... trickle down immorality... THIS IS NOT ROCKET SCIENCE.. Why do you think I rant about NFDMTTS???? It is so detrimentally influential... Oh...but let's don't deal with that...let's just brainstorm up youth programs..and let them have MTV in church ...ya know..it is a culture thing... I need to start a NONSENSE Anonymous organization with a 12 step program... Quote
Administrators Naomi Posted March 27, 2005 Administrators Posted March 27, 2005 </font><blockquote><font class="small">Quote:</font><hr /> I need to start a NONSENSE Anonymous organization with a 12 step program... <hr /></blockquote><font class="post"> Great idea JimBob7 ... I do believe you are the person to make it happen. Go for it! Quote If your dreams are not big enough to scare you, they are not big enough for God
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