Members phkrause Posted April 25, 2011 Members Posted April 25, 2011 http://www.newsmax.com/InsideCover/Trump...omo_code=C1F3-1 Quote phkrause When the righteous are in authority, the people rejoice; But when a wicked man rules, the people groan. Proverbs 29;2
Moderators John317 Posted April 25, 2011 Moderators Posted April 25, 2011 I don't know if I would vote for Trump, but I do know I want him to run for the presidency. I think it would be good for the country. He's not a "politician," and that's great. I hope he stays that way. I don't agree with him on everything, but I do agree that there's no reason the President doesn't show the nation his actual birth certificate instead of a certification of live birth that has no signiture on it. Why would someone spend a fortune to keep from having to show his real birth certificate, which will be signed by the attending physician and other officials. I find that really odd. There have been people who claimed they saw it in the Health Dept. of Hawaii. So if it is there, why not produce it? Maybe the president was born here. I hope he was. I think it's crazy that the mass media didn't get to the bottom of this issue. What will they say if it is found eventually that he wasn't qualified to be president? What will I say if it is found eventually that he has a real birth certificate proving beyond all doubt that he was born in America? I will be relieved and happy. I didn't vote for him, but once he was elected, I definitely hoped he would be a good, even a great, president. I don't want him to make mistakes because a bad president is bad for the land I love. Quote John 3:16-17 For God so loved the world, that he gave his only Son, that whoever believes in him should not perish but have eternal life. [17] For God did not send his Son into the world to condemn the world, but in order that the world might be saved through him.
Moderators lazarus Posted April 29, 2011 Moderators Posted April 29, 2011 A certificate of live birth is what Hawaii produces that's why he showed it. I'm surprised that you're seduced by this nonsense. It's just a further revelation of the sick underbelly of American society. Surely this is a product of the same sick mentality that will lead Christians in a America the persecute other Americans for being true to God. They can't see the truth when they see it. Quote Great spirits have always found violent opposition from mediocrities. The latter cannot understand it when a man does not thoughtlessly submit to hereditary prejudices but honestly and courageously uses his intelligence. Einstein
Moderators lazarus Posted April 29, 2011 Moderators Posted April 29, 2011 Trump could probably destroy the Republican party if he runs. He should be taken seriously. The media may paint him as a buffoon but he knows how to win. I've read a couple of his books. He knows what he's doing. Watch out GOPers! Like I said before, he'd make a great dictator. Quote Great spirits have always found violent opposition from mediocrities. The latter cannot understand it when a man does not thoughtlessly submit to hereditary prejudices but honestly and courageously uses his intelligence. Einstein
bonnie Posted April 29, 2011 Posted April 29, 2011 A certificate of live birth is what Hawaii produces that's why he showed it. I'm surprised that you're seduced by this nonsense. It's just a further revelation of the sick underbelly of American society. Surely this is a product of the same sick mentality that will lead Christians in a America the persecute other Americans for being true to God. hey can't see the truth when they see it. So why will the rest of the world do the same? What is more telling is that so many think this "earthly messiah" would lie about this. Quote Everything you do is based on the choices you make. It's not your parents, your past relationships, your job, the economy, the weather, an argument, or your age that is to blame. You and only you are responsible for every decision and choice you make, period ... ... Wish more people would realize this. Quotes by Susan Gottesman
Moderators lazarus Posted April 29, 2011 Moderators Posted April 29, 2011 So why will the rest of the world do the same? Well, as an SDA you will know that the US makes an image to the beast. Quote: What is more telling is that so many think this "earthly messiah" would lie about this. See......, you can't distinguish between a lie and the truth. Quote Great spirits have always found violent opposition from mediocrities. The latter cannot understand it when a man does not thoughtlessly submit to hereditary prejudices but honestly and courageously uses his intelligence. Einstein
bonnie Posted April 29, 2011 Posted April 29, 2011 [quote name="lazarus So why will the rest of the world do the same? Quote Everything you do is based on the choices you make. It's not your parents, your past relationships, your job, the economy, the weather, an argument, or your age that is to blame. You and only you are responsible for every decision and choice you make, period ... ... Wish more people would realize this. Quotes by Susan Gottesman
Moderators lazarus Posted April 29, 2011 Moderators Posted April 29, 2011 Quote: I don't care who makes the image to the beast. Interesting but not unexpected response. Quote: I want to know what excuse the mindless sheep in the other countries will have Revelation 12: 12-16 gives all the answers. The USA takes on the role as deceiver in chief among the nations. Quote: I think it was 39% believed he was not or may not be a US citizen. Donald Trumps numbers went up not down going after him.That is pretty high numbers believing the president was lying to them 39% of republicans I guess. Of course GOPers think the president's lying. That's what they are supposed to think. Quote Great spirits have always found violent opposition from mediocrities. The latter cannot understand it when a man does not thoughtlessly submit to hereditary prejudices but honestly and courageously uses his intelligence. Einstein
Members phkrause Posted April 30, 2011 Author Members Posted April 30, 2011 I'm surprised that you're seduced by this nonsense. It's just a further revelation of the sick underbelly of American society. Sorry Lazarus if this gives that impression, but I'm not seduced at all. Personally, as far as I'm concerned, he doesn't have to prove anything to me or anyone. Not one other president has been asked for there's, at least not in my life time. If he was not born in the USA, it would've been out long ago. And I believe if that were the case he would not have run at all. I posted that to first, show that I'm not bias to one party or the other, and second, to show how far people will go to put others down. Quote phkrause When the righteous are in authority, the people rejoice; But when a wicked man rules, the people groan. Proverbs 29;2
bonnie Posted April 30, 2011 Posted April 30, 2011 Quote: Sorry Lazarus if this gives that impression, but I'm not seduced at all. Personally, as far as I'm concerned, he doesn't have to prove anything to me or anyone. Not one other president has been asked for there's, at least not in my life time. Maybe because we have never had a president that so little is known about and who has attempted to keep it that way. Many attempts were made to make false accusations against Bush and antying in his past.Didn't notice that he had this dogged determination to keep his past secret. Quote: I posted that to first, show that I'm not bias to one party or the other, and second, to show how far people will go to put others down. Everyone has a bias. Race is a useful tool to put others down and a potent accusation to make against any that disagree with our current president. Had any republican "white' president" shown the race card as frequently as our current president he may well have been "dragged from office" Try to imagine Buch attending church infrequently and when he chooses one to make an appearance for Easter Sunday remarks are made equivalent to what this black pastor said. Whether or not it was known beforehand what would be said,this pastor was entirely comfortable making those kind of remarks with our president present. I don't know about you,but my children at a impresionable age would have been yanked from that pew as they would have that of Jeremiah Wright. Never in a million years would I have sat for 20 years in a white congregation doing same.Not unless they were in sync with what I believed. You do not surround yourself with those of the mentality of Obama's mentors and associates as Obama has done all his life without sharing a common belief and purpose Quote Everything you do is based on the choices you make. It's not your parents, your past relationships, your job, the economy, the weather, an argument, or your age that is to blame. You and only you are responsible for every decision and choice you make, period ... ... Wish more people would realize this. Quotes by Susan Gottesman
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