Woody Posted April 27, 2011 Posted April 27, 2011 He FINALLY releases his Birth Certificate. Why is it that he chose to give US citizens such grief by withholding it so long. We citizens have the right to know if he is a citizen. Why the deceit? Why did it take SO much pressure to get him to do the right thing. This president was suppose to be transparent and yet he has been just the opposite. Shame on you Obama. Quote May we be one so that the world may be won. Christian from the cradle to the grave I believe in Hematology.
Administrators Tom Wetmore Posted April 27, 2011 Administrators Posted April 27, 2011 As he said, "We don't have time for this kind of silliness." View his full statement. It was not for lack of evidence already given. When the carnival barkers (Trump, et al...) and their little sideshows were drowning out the important discussions for our country, it was time... http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/44/p...og.html?hpid=z2 Quote "Absurdity reigns and confusion makes it look good." "Sinless perfection is such a shallow goal." "I love God only as much as the person I love the least." *Forgiveness is always good news. And that is the gospel truth. (And finally, the ideas expressed above are solely my person views and not that of any organization with which I am associated.)
Woody Posted April 27, 2011 Author Posted April 27, 2011 yes dgrimm. FINALLY. Although I haven't reviewed it yet to verify it's authenticity. Quote May we be one so that the world may be won. Christian from the cradle to the grave I believe in Hematology.
Woody Posted April 27, 2011 Author Posted April 27, 2011 “The President believed the distraction over his birth certificate wasn’t good for the country,” GIVE ME A BREAK ... what took him SO long to figure that out? And HE is our president? Quote May we be one so that the world may be won. Christian from the cradle to the grave I believe in Hematology.
Woody Posted April 27, 2011 Author Posted April 27, 2011 Trump says he is going to check it out to see if it is real. He also says he hopes it is. So as dgrimm says - " we will see". Trump is also taking credit for getting Obama to do the right thing for the nation. This should help his presidential hopes and standing in the race. Quote May we be one so that the world may be won. Christian from the cradle to the grave I believe in Hematology.
Members phkrause Posted April 27, 2011 Members Posted April 27, 2011 So in reality it didn't matter if he disclosed it now or before, people are still wasting there time with his birth certificate issue, which he didn't need to show to anybody. As had already been said by Huckabee, when Obama and Hilary were dueling it out for the democratic candidate, she more than likely had this covered already. Quote phkrause When the righteous are in authority, the people rejoice; But when a wicked man rules, the people groan. Proverbs 29;2
Woody Posted April 27, 2011 Author Posted April 27, 2011 Well I have been hearing Trump boasting about it. He claims that he accomplished what no one else could do. And has done a good service for the country. Wow he knows how to put out the PR. Quote May we be one so that the world may be won. Christian from the cradle to the grave I believe in Hematology.
Administrators Tom Wetmore Posted April 27, 2011 Administrators Posted April 27, 2011 Trump boasting... Really?!?! He would take credit for anything that gets him some more attention. Quote "Absurdity reigns and confusion makes it look good." "Sinless perfection is such a shallow goal." "I love God only as much as the person I love the least." *Forgiveness is always good news. And that is the gospel truth. (And finally, the ideas expressed above are solely my person views and not that of any organization with which I am associated.)
bonnie Posted April 27, 2011 Posted April 27, 2011 Well I have been hearing Trump boasting about it. He claims that he accomplished what no one else could do. And has done a good service for the country. Wow he knows how to put out the PR. Reminds me of MN Jessie. No matter the issue,or how minor Trump takes it to Obama,in his face.Obama could no longer avoid doing what he did. To many republicans are afraid of Obama and his race. Call Trump a racist and I don't think he breaks a sweat. To many are afraid to because of that.You dislike Obama and his policies the only reason could be you are a racist. Jessie was brash,outrageous and in your face.He was elected Quote Everything you do is based on the choices you make. It's not your parents, your past relationships, your job, the economy, the weather, an argument, or your age that is to blame. You and only you are responsible for every decision and choice you make, period ... ... Wish more people would realize this. Quotes by Susan Gottesman
Woody Posted April 27, 2011 Author Posted April 27, 2011 Well I think it will be Newt in 2012. The country has gotten over the facination of having a black man in the White House. Quote May we be one so that the world may be won. Christian from the cradle to the grave I believe in Hematology.
Woody Posted April 27, 2011 Author Posted April 27, 2011 Today Obama said he knew he was born in the US because he remembered it. Oh brother Quote May we be one so that the world may be won. Christian from the cradle to the grave I believe in Hematology.
Members phkrause Posted April 27, 2011 Members Posted April 27, 2011 Well I think it will be Newt in 2012. The country has gotten over the facination of having a black man in the White House. Interesting you should mention him. My brother a very devout Republican, thinks Newt is an idiot. His words not mine. I happen to like Newt, but he gets a little self centered, but than most if not all politicians are like that. Quote phkrause When the righteous are in authority, the people rejoice; But when a wicked man rules, the people groan. Proverbs 29;2
Moderators John317 Posted April 27, 2011 Moderators Posted April 27, 2011 Well, if he's an idiot he has to be most educated and have the highest IQ of any other idiot in history. lol Yeah I like Newt, too. He's a university professor in history and political science, and has written a pretty good histocial novel. Not bad for an idiot. Not saying I would vote for him, though. I'd have to examine his positions and compare them with other candidates. I doubt he could win a general election. Quote John 3:16-17 For God so loved the world, that he gave his only Son, that whoever believes in him should not perish but have eternal life. [17] For God did not send his Son into the world to condemn the world, but in order that the world might be saved through him.
Moderators John317 Posted April 27, 2011 Moderators Posted April 27, 2011 My only question is why he put the nation through this so long. He should have done it a long time ago. Even his friend Oprah evidently wondered about that. It took somoone like Trump-- who isn't a politician and therefore isn't intimidated by being called a "birther"--- to get it done. Quote John 3:16-17 For God so loved the world, that he gave his only Son, that whoever believes in him should not perish but have eternal life. [17] For God did not send his Son into the world to condemn the world, but in order that the world might be saved through him.
SivartM Posted April 27, 2011 Posted April 27, 2011 Someone can have a high IQ and still be an idiot. I thought Obama released his birth certificate a long time ago. I guess people won't accept anything but the long form certificate. I should probably get a copy of mine to prove to everyone that I was born here. Have any other presidents ever been demanded that they make their birth certificate public? I don't like it when people play the race card but I really think that people are only suspicious of Obama because he's black and his middle name is Hussein, and that makes him a suspicious foreigner. People are still convinced that he's a Muslim (and convinced that that matters). I think that all personal documents that Obama has to make public (even though he is not required to) should be required of all presidents. Quote "Always forgive your enemies; nothing annoys them so much." - Oscar Wilde�Do to others whatever you would like them to do to you. This is the essence of all that is taught in the law and the prophets." - Jesus
Members phkrause Posted April 28, 2011 Members Posted April 28, 2011 Well, if he's an idiot he has to be most educated and have the highest IQ of any other idiot in history. lol Yeah I like Newt, too. He's a university professor in history and political science, and has written a pretty good histocial novel. Not bad for an idiot. Not saying I would vote for him, though. I'd have to examine his positions and compare them with other candidates. I doubt he could win a general election. If I remember correctly wasn't it Newt and Clinton that got us back on track with the defecit(sp)? I don't think that's what my brother meant, he just never liked him so you know how we throwout words at those we really don't agree with, etc. Quote phkrause When the righteous are in authority, the people rejoice; But when a wicked man rules, the people groan. Proverbs 29;2
bonnie Posted April 28, 2011 Posted April 28, 2011 I thought Obama released his birth certificate a long time ago. I guess people won't accept anything but the long form certificate. I should probably get a copy of mine to prove to everyone that I was born here. Quote Everything you do is based on the choices you make. It's not your parents, your past relationships, your job, the economy, the weather, an argument, or your age that is to blame. You and only you are responsible for every decision and choice you make, period ... ... Wish more people would realize this. Quotes by Susan Gottesman
bonnie Posted April 28, 2011 Posted April 28, 2011 Well, if he's an idiot he has to be most educated and have the highest IQ of any other idiot in history. lol Yeah I like Newt, too. He's a university professor in history and political science, and has written a pretty good histocial novel. Not bad for an idiot. Not saying I would vote for him, though. I'd have to examine his positions and compare them with other candidates. I doubt he could win a general election. I for one would like to see a televised debate between Newt and Obama.Obama without his teleprompter. Newt would mop the floor with this so called "most brillant man to ever occupy the whitehouse" I don't believe Newt is a true conservative but he maybe what we get Quote Everything you do is based on the choices you make. It's not your parents, your past relationships, your job, the economy, the weather, an argument, or your age that is to blame. You and only you are responsible for every decision and choice you make, period ... ... Wish more people would realize this. Quotes by Susan Gottesman
Moderators lazarus Posted April 28, 2011 Moderators Posted April 28, 2011 yes dgrimm. FINALLY. Although I haven't reviewed it yet to verify it's authenticity. Dont bother, its a fake. Quote Great spirits have always found violent opposition from mediocrities. The latter cannot understand it when a man does not thoughtlessly submit to hereditary prejudices but honestly and courageously uses his intelligence. Einstein
Woody Posted April 29, 2011 Author Posted April 29, 2011 Originally Posted By: Woody yes dgrimm. FINALLY. Although I haven't reviewed it yet to verify it's authenticity. Dont bother, its a fake. Wow. That somehow does not surprise me. Do you have a link. I had not heard that yet. Quote May we be one so that the world may be won. Christian from the cradle to the grave I believe in Hematology.
Moderators John317 Posted April 29, 2011 Moderators Posted April 29, 2011 Someone can have a high IQ and still be an idiot. In the way I use the term idiot, it refers to people with low IQs, or an IQ below 30. I know you are using "idiot" differently than I am. You are using it in such a way that anyone can could call anyone else an idiot, no matter how intelligent or educated they might be. It then becomes simply another name to call anyone you don't like. That's all the word has come to mean. It's used in the same way as "retard." I wouldn't use it that way and it can't be used that way on the Forum in regard to other members. If somone wants to used of themselves, though, that's fine. Quote: In 19th and early 20th century medicine and psychology, an "idiot" was a person with a very severe mental retardation. In the early 1900s, Dr. Henry H. Goddard proposed a classification system for mental retardation based on the Binet-Simon concept of mental age. Individuals with the lowest mental age level (less than three years) were identified as idiots; imbeciles had a mental age of three to 7 years, and morons had a mental age of seven to ten years.[7] IQ, or intelligence quotient, is determined by dividing a person's mental age, as determined by standardized tests, by their actual age. The term "idiot" was used to refer to people having an IQ below 30.[8][9] In current medical classification, these people are now said to have profound mental retardation.[1] Quote John 3:16-17 For God so loved the world, that he gave his only Son, that whoever believes in him should not perish but have eternal life. [17] For God did not send his Son into the world to condemn the world, but in order that the world might be saved through him.
Moderators lazarus Posted April 29, 2011 Moderators Posted April 29, 2011 Originally Posted By: Woody yes dgrimm. FINALLY. Although I haven't reviewed it yet to verify it's authenticity. Dont bother, its a fake. What I mean is, even if the certificate was authenticated by somebody it still would be fake. If there was a photo if baby Obama in the hospital it would be fake. If there was 8mm film it would be fake. America's hatred of itself is maturing. Quote Great spirits have always found violent opposition from mediocrities. The latter cannot understand it when a man does not thoughtlessly submit to hereditary prejudices but honestly and courageously uses his intelligence. Einstein
Woody Posted April 29, 2011 Author Posted April 29, 2011 I guess one could add Obama's grandmother to the hate list as she indicated that Obama was born in Kenya. Quote May we be one so that the world may be won. Christian from the cradle to the grave I believe in Hematology.
Moderators lazarus Posted April 29, 2011 Moderators Posted April 29, 2011 I guess one could add Obama's grandmother to the hate list as she indicated that Obama was born in Kenya. oh yes, you're right on that! Quote Great spirits have always found violent opposition from mediocrities. The latter cannot understand it when a man does not thoughtlessly submit to hereditary prejudices but honestly and courageously uses his intelligence. Einstein
bonnie Posted April 29, 2011 Posted April 29, 2011 I guess one could add Obama's grandmother to the hate list as she indicated that Obama was born in Kenya. Obama's grandmother was white,therefore she hates Quote Everything you do is based on the choices you make. It's not your parents, your past relationships, your job, the economy, the weather, an argument, or your age that is to blame. You and only you are responsible for every decision and choice you make, period ... ... Wish more people would realize this. Quotes by Susan Gottesman
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