Activity in Jerusalem ABOVE Dome of the Rock

[BobRyan]

Three different videos synced

[BobRyan]

The area where this was supposedly happening is officially restricted air space.

in Christ,

Bob

[phkrause]

Who knows Bob. I guess a false alarm.

[ClubV12]

Wait, I think I know this one!!

That "star" the Magi saw that led them to Christ? A distant company of good angels!

THIS UFO at the Dome? A closer company of angels perhaps (not likely good ones).

[fccool]

Most likely a hoax from the videos that I've seen. People seem to be fairly calm when they are reacting to the sight. The bright object seems to cast no light. I think it's a collaborated effort to get some media attention.

[ClubV12]

I don't know about the hoax part. From a video stand point there seems to be a number of different angels and positions, to many to coordinate for a video hoax me thinks.

Could be some kind of "light show" by mechanical methodology I guess, I got nothing on that possibility.

Is it out of the question that the evil one would/could do a thing such as this?

[fccool]

ClubV12. I work in visual effects industry, and we do that every day :)

[BobRyan]

More "special" effects then. (This next video is not a repeat of the opening vid for this thread. But it starts with a few quotes from the opening video)

Not saying they are all fake or all real.

(It ends with a paranoid phone caller for example).

But here is an interesting news comment on one of the items listed in the compendium video above (the pics from the Mexican airforce gun cameras).

[BobRyan]

Greer's project has resulted in disclosure briefings with top military and government officials not only for the US government but also for other nations.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7vyVe-6YdUk

The first two minute intro is not that amazing but there is a philosphical point that it makes, that should be looked at from a Christian POV.

The next 10 minutes are pretty interesting.

Quite a feat for special effects.

in Christ,

Bob

[BobRyan]

Is it out of the question that the evil one would/could do a thing such as this?

That is a good question.

A couple of key Vatican officials have urged that we not consider this subject to be something related to evil angels.

They have a reliability record when it comes to those things that cannot be ignored.

in Christs,

Bob

[Amelia]

Quote:

A couple of key Vatican officials have urged that we not consider this subject to be something related to evil angels.

They have a reliability record when it comes to those things that cannot be ignored.

Can you expound on this please. I am not familiar with this topic and the Vatican.

[BobRyan]

Here are some quick notes I took - from -

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=0iRsxRUPQAY#at=18

Summary – survey of Vatican strategy with UFO – urging that they are not connected to demons

2:40 New Pope Pushing Alien and UFO issue.

2:56 monsignor Balducci – Vatican Exorcist -- turns UFologist

3:27 Vatican’s support of Balducci’s ideas.

3:38-4:20 - claims aliens are not connected to demons because angels do not need machines

4:22 1960-1970 Vatican Ufologist – Domenico Grasso

4:55 Jesuit from Argentina – Fr Funes is current head of Vatican astronomy and Ufologist

7:55 Alien topic related to salvation/sin/Christ -- Vatican is working on it.

Main observatory for Vatican is in Arizona Tucson 5:30-5:55

============== other links

Quote:

Pope's astronomer says he would baptise an alien if it asked him

http://www.guardian.co.uk/science/2010/sep/17/pope-astronomer-baptise-aliens

An alien – 'no matter how many tentacles it has' – could have a soul, says pope's astronomer

Guy Consolmagno, one of the pope's astronomers, said he would be 'delighted' if intelligent life was found among the stars. Photograph: David Sillitoe/Guardian

“Aliens might have souls and could choose to be baptised if humans ever met them, a Vatican scientist said today.”

in Christ,

Bob

[BobRyan]

Here is the CNA (Catholic News Agency?) article

Quote:

From: http://www.catholicnewsagency.com/news/b...stronomer_says/

Vatican City, May 13, 2008 / 01:59 pm (CNA).- The Director of the Vatican's Observatory, Fr. José Gabriel Funes, said in an interview with the Vatican daily, L'Osservatore Romano, that believing in the possible existence of extraterrestrial life is not opposed to Catholic doctrine.

The 45-year-old Argentinean priest heads the Vatican Observatory, founded by Pope Leo XIII with offices at Castelgandolfo, near the Apostolic summer palace, and another in Tucson, Arizona. Fr. Funes has been in charge of the Observatory since August 2006.

The astronomer began the interview titled, "The Alien is my Brother," by saying that, "Astronomy has a profound human value. It is a science that opens the heart and the mind. It helps us to put our lives, our hopes, our problems in the right perspective. In this regard, and here I speak as a priest and a Jesuit, it is an apostolic instrument that can bring us closer to God", said Fr. Funes in the interview.

Regarding the beginning of the universe, Fr. Funes says that he personally believes that the "big bang" theory seems to him the most plausible, and that it does not contradict the Bible. "We cannot ask the Bible for a scientific answer here. At the same time, we don't know if in a near future the 'Big Bang' theory will be superseded by a more complete and precise explanation of the origin of the universe."

When he was asked about the possibility of extraterrestrial life, the Director of the Vatican Observatory responded that "it is possible, even if until now, we have no proof. But certainly in such a big universe this hypothesis cannot be excluded."

Asked is he sees a contradiction between the Catholic faith and believing in aliens, he said, "I think there isn't (a contradiction). Just as there is a multiplicity of creatures over the earth, so there could be other beings, even intelligent (beings), created by God. This is not in contradiction with our faith, because we cannot establish limits to God's creative freedom. To say it with St. Francis, if we can consider some earthly creatures as 'brothers' or 'sisters', why could we not speak of a 'brother alien'? He would also belong to the creation."

Fr. Funes says that taking the image of the lost sheep in the Gospel, "we could think that in this universe there can be 100 sheep, equivalent to different kinds of creatures. We, belonging to human kind could be precisely the lost sheep, the sinners that need the shepherd. God became man in Jesus to save us. In that way, assuming that there would be other intelligent beings, we could not say that they need redemption . They could have remained in full friendship with the Creator."

"But if they were sinners?" L'Osservatore's journalist asks.

"Jesus became man once and for all. The Incarnation is a single and unique event. So I am sure that also they, in some way, would have the chance to enjoy God's mercy, just as it has happened with us human beings."

[BobRyan]

My point is not that I agree with the Vatican statements - but some portions are true. The part where they speak to the 99 vs 1 lost sheep.

But in that case - none of the 99 are "Showing up" here.

in Christ,

Bob

[BobRyan]

There is a quote predicting that near the end of time there will be "gods many and lords many" and that the heathen deities will "display" themselves "before the cities of the world".

in Christ,

Bob

[BobRyan]

We are also told that any communication with demons is witchcraft - whether you think you are talking to Mary, or your dead uncle or an alien from a nearby planet.