Administrators Gail Posted May 17, 2011 Administrators Posted May 17, 2011 Does Jesus have access to the real you? He knows your heart and soul... but have you exposed yourself right down to the heart for total healing? I don't think this is as easy as it looks on paper. But I have a feeling that it is part of the judgment we all must go through... Quote Isaiah 32:17 And the work of righteousness shall be peace; and the effect of righteousness quietness and assurance for ever.
Members phkrause Posted May 17, 2011 Members Posted May 17, 2011 Interesting question and thoughts. Quote phkrause When the righteous are in authority, the people rejoice; But when a wicked man rules, the people groan. Proverbs 29;2
Parade Orange Posted May 17, 2011 Posted May 17, 2011 GAIL when i was a young christian on fire for JESUS i was a SABBATH SCHOOL TEACHER AND L.E. and a deacon for my cute small rural old fashioned church i fell in love with JESUS thru the book DESIRE of AGES and brought many into the church and baptisms i shared JESUS whereever i went and was a vegitariun and lost alot of weight. i was a good boy and JESUS was LORD N SAVIOUR i was in my early 20's yet at night when alone i was so filled with shame and guilt i didnt dare speak of it to GOD in a real way I BELIEVED GOD LOVED ME WHEN I WAS REALLY REALLY GOOD only to take off the CHRISTIAN MASK meant i would be HELL bound and no hope for me so it was inconceivable to be real with GOD i was taught GOD hates the real me since i could remember Quote All progress in the Spiritual Life is knowing and Loving GOD"there is non upon earth that I desire besides YOU" PS 73:25That perspective changes EVERYTHING-suffering and adversity are the means that makes us hungry for GOD. Disapointments will wean us away wordly occupations. Even sin(when repented of) becomes a mechanism to push us closer to HIM as we experience His Love and Forgiveness.
Administrators Gail Posted May 17, 2011 Author Administrators Posted May 17, 2011 Quote: to take off the CHRISTIAN MASK meant i would be HELL bound and no hope for me It is a scary prospect for any of us, I think. Yet, who else can we trust with our real soul? Our viewpoint of God can really affect how intimate we can be with Him. For honesty and closeness, even unity with Him, how else can we do it unless we trust Him with who we really are? And- Why is it so scary when He knows us, our true self, anyway? I am thinking of the potential for the future if we should do this... Quote Isaiah 32:17 And the work of righteousness shall be peace; and the effect of righteousness quietness and assurance for ever.
Parade Orange Posted May 17, 2011 Posted May 17, 2011 i agree GAIL Quote All progress in the Spiritual Life is knowing and Loving GOD"there is non upon earth that I desire besides YOU" PS 73:25That perspective changes EVERYTHING-suffering and adversity are the means that makes us hungry for GOD. Disapointments will wean us away wordly occupations. Even sin(when repented of) becomes a mechanism to push us closer to HIM as we experience His Love and Forgiveness.
Gary K Posted May 17, 2011 Posted May 17, 2011 Quote: to take off the CHRISTIAN MASK meant i would be HELL bound and no hope for me It is a scary prospect for any of us, I think. Yet, who else can we trust with our real soul? Our viewpoint of God can really affect how intimate we can be with Him. For honesty and closeness, even unity with Him, how else can we do it unless we trust Him with who we really are? And- Why is it so scary when He knows us, our true self, anyway? I am thinking of the potential for the future if we should do this... I agree Gail. God knows who we are on an intimate basis. Not telling Him about ourselves doesn't stop God from knowing us. Opening ourselves up to Him isn't for His benefit. It's for our benefit. Quote
Parade Orange Posted May 17, 2011 Posted May 17, 2011 and GOD cant heal the mask He dont fix the false you He dont clean up and forgive the pretend He does all those wonderful things for the real YOU Heal the real you FORGIVE THE REAL YOU Cleans YOU! thats why i invite all the gays in the closets to come out! He invites us all into the LIGHT Quote All progress in the Spiritual Life is knowing and Loving GOD"there is non upon earth that I desire besides YOU" PS 73:25That perspective changes EVERYTHING-suffering and adversity are the means that makes us hungry for GOD. Disapointments will wean us away wordly occupations. Even sin(when repented of) becomes a mechanism to push us closer to HIM as we experience His Love and Forgiveness.
Gary K Posted May 17, 2011 Posted May 17, 2011 GAILwhen i was a young christian on fire for JESUS i was a SABBATH SCHOOL TEACHER AND L.E. and a deacon for my cute small rural old fashioned church i fell in love with JESUS thru the book DESIRE of AGES and brought many into the church and baptisms i shared JESUS whereever i went and was a vegitariun and lost alot of weight. i was a good boy and JESUS was LORD N SAVIOUR i was in my early 20's yet at night when alone i was so filled with shame and guilt i didnt dare speak of it to GOD in a real way I BELIEVED GOD LOVED ME WHEN I WAS REALLY REALLY GOOD only to take off the CHRISTIAN MASK meant i would be HELL bound and no hope for me so it was inconceivable to be real with GOD i was taught GOD hates the real me since i could remember I can relate. I've been there and done that too. You are most definitely not alone. I too was raised to have very high shame and guilt levels. I was raised to think I was of no value, and that everyone else in the world was of high value. Quote
Parade Orange Posted May 17, 2011 Posted May 17, 2011 GOD BLESS YOU GARY K! Quote All progress in the Spiritual Life is knowing and Loving GOD"there is non upon earth that I desire besides YOU" PS 73:25That perspective changes EVERYTHING-suffering and adversity are the means that makes us hungry for GOD. Disapointments will wean us away wordly occupations. Even sin(when repented of) becomes a mechanism to push us closer to HIM as we experience His Love and Forgiveness.
Administrators Gail Posted May 17, 2011 Author Administrators Posted May 17, 2011 God bless BOTH of you! The REAL both of you!! :) Quote Isaiah 32:17 And the work of righteousness shall be peace; and the effect of righteousness quietness and assurance for ever.
Administrators Gail Posted May 17, 2011 Author Administrators Posted May 17, 2011 Another question: As your Saviour, what does Jesus do with what you expose to Him, of the deep, dark, ugly part of you that you are ashamed to expose to people? PO touched on this when he said, Forgiveness... Quote Isaiah 32:17 And the work of righteousness shall be peace; and the effect of righteousness quietness and assurance for ever.
Gary K Posted May 18, 2011 Posted May 18, 2011 Another question: As your Saviour, what does Jesus do with what you expose to Him, of the deep, dark, ugly part of you that you are ashamed to expose to people? PO touched on this when he said, Forgiveness... What does God do with the dysfunctions we give to Him? He heals them. Jesus said that He came so that we might have life, and have it more abundantly. Without healing that isn't possible. While forgiveness has a healing aspect to it, the God I know would feel He was doing us a disservice if all He did was forgive. That would be the least He could do, and God does nothing by half measures. Quote
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