Stan Posted May 19, 2011 Posted May 19, 2011 There is a religious townhall. Quote If you receive benefit to being here please help out with expenses. https://www.paypal.me/clubadventist Administrator of a few websites like https://adventistdating.com
Woody Posted May 19, 2011 Posted May 19, 2011 I think some of us don't know the definition of religious. I've asked this frequently and have received some wild answers. I tend to follow best by example. But in this situation - that has not helped either. Quote May we be one so that the world may be won. Christian from the cradle to the grave I believe in Hematology.
Woody Posted May 19, 2011 Posted May 19, 2011 For instance ... the topic of "Adventist DNA" - Is that a religious topic? Or what would it be considered? I don't mean to point fingers. I am just honestly confused. And as I said - I learn best by example and from what I have seen - example only confuses me more. So until a definition comes - I will remain confused. When I read this: Quote: "It seems like when we become adventist our DNA makes us want to correct all error. That is not a good trait.... ask any child who was always corrected by his parents, or an employee who is constantly corrected, it tends to work back words on this. Finally, brothers, whatever is true, whatever is noble, whatever is right, whatever is pure, whatever is lovely, whatever is admirable--if anything is excellent or praiseworthy--think (and post ) about such things. Philippians 4:8 As EGW said, point out what is right, not what is wrong.. Stan" It appears religious. But then I honestly don't know. Quote May we be one so that the world may be won. Christian from the cradle to the grave I believe in Hematology.
Dr. Rich Posted May 19, 2011 Posted May 19, 2011 Stan, can you please define "religious"? Isn't this whole blog about and for Adventists? Is not that in itself religious? I don't know the answer. Quote
Woody Posted May 19, 2011 Posted May 19, 2011 Stan, can you please define "religious"? Isn't this whole blog about and for Adventists? Is not that in itself religious? I don't know the answer. Dr. Rich. Good luck getting a definition. I've been trying for years. As for me ... I will post and follow by example. I will continue to do my best. And then the moderators can do their job and move the threads to their hearts content. And occasionally we will get Stan's worthless reminders about this "issue". But they will be without example and without definition. This is a pet peeve of mine. Sorry. I don't mean to offend. But this issue drives people away from the forum. It makes our forum unfriendly. And I have devoted a lot of energy to making people feel welcome. But if they have to fear getting rebuked over where they post - they will not feel welcome. Provide a definition or examples - yes. But do not frighten people away from posting. I have to wonder the importance of this. Is it a turf battle with the mods? PLEASE Quote May we be one so that the world may be won. Christian from the cradle to the grave I believe in Hematology.
Stan Posted May 19, 2011 Author Posted May 19, 2011 what drives people away is the constant bickering and arguing. NO definition for religious would be exhaustive enough, the same goes for politics. Let common sense prevail. If unable to understand, just post elsewhere then townhall. The issue about the DNA was about behaviour, not about doctrine to teachings. Quote If you receive benefit to being here please help out with expenses. https://www.paypal.me/clubadventist Administrator of a few websites like https://adventistdating.com
Woody Posted May 19, 2011 Posted May 19, 2011 Now I know that I have no common sense then. Quote May we be one so that the world may be won. Christian from the cradle to the grave I believe in Hematology.
Flyboy Posted May 20, 2011 Posted May 20, 2011 Woody and Dr. Rich, no matter how endlessly people debate the idea of what is "religious" there will never be a consensus. Respect the mods and do your best to follow the requests. It's not unreasonable to separate forums based on topic general topic. As for the forum being for SDA thus all threads inherently being religious in nature, well, what about the sports forum? The tech support and secular music/movies forums? The point is, try (to the best of your understanding) to separate religious, or perhaps, theological, threads from those that are not. Quote
Stan Posted May 20, 2011 Author Posted May 20, 2011 Thank you flyboy! The list of examples would never be complete. The concept is there. Quote If you receive benefit to being here please help out with expenses. https://www.paypal.me/clubadventist Administrator of a few websites like https://adventistdating.com
Members rudywoofs (Pam) Posted May 20, 2011 Members Posted May 20, 2011 There is a religious townhall. Would that be just "Adventist religious topics," or topics concerning any and all postings that mention ANY religious orientation? ie., Buddism, Hinduism, LDS, Baptist, Amish, etc. What about atheism? Not trying to harp on this, but it *is* confusing. It seems to me that the more "rules" the forum incorporates into the workings of the forum, the worse things seem to get.... and the "You're not following the RULES!" gets to be a mantra with some. Where's Booban and my good friend Half-Step when we need them... Quote Pam Meddle Not In the Affairs of Dragons; for You Are Crunchy and Taste Good with Ketchup. If we all sang the same note in the choir, there'd never be any harmony. Funny, isn't it, how we accept Grace for ourselves and demand justice for others?
Flyboy Posted May 20, 2011 Posted May 20, 2011 I'm certainly no mod, and Stan correct me if I am wrong, but my interpretation of the "Religious Town Hall" vs. the "Town Hall", based on what I've seen discussed in both, seems to be that religious topics on which the primary discussion thrust is intended to be one which considers a primary SDA belief or doctrine. These are, it seems more appropriate to the religious town hall. I myself started a thread or two, it appears, in the wrong forum. I don't mind if they are moved, if they move I will follow, as long as I know where they moved to. Of course there are gray areas. Which forum should meat-eating be in? Which should the age of mankind be in? Who knows? But I don't think Stan is getting worked up over this, I took it as a gentle reminder to posters to consider which forum one is posting in. Perhaps there should be a "Gray Area Town Hall", for areas that are not clear cut. But then..... which areas are not clear cut? And of course anything posted in there would immediately be subject to the abuse of "this should be moved! this is not a gray area!" So, in the end, what do do? Honestly, what do do? Quote
LifeHiscost Posted May 20, 2011 Posted May 20, 2011 The point is, try (to the best of your understanding) to separate religious, or perhaps, theological, threads from those that are not. Religious: relating to or manifesting faithful devotion to an acknowledged ultimate reality or deity. Webster's Ninth New Collegiate Dictionary Shortly it will be determined by the powers that be, that only false theology will be accepted in primary avenues of discourse, on pain of severe penalties and ultimately death, to those who refuse to bend the knee to the majority public opinion. It will be at that time, all will choose which direction they wish to go. "For the authorities do not strike fear in people who are doing right, but in those who are doing wrong. Would you like to live without fear of the authorities? Do what is right, and they will honor you. The authorities are God’s servants, sent for your good. But if you are doing wrong, of course you should be afraid, for they have the power to punish you. They are God’s servants, sent for the very purpose of punishing those who do what is wrong. So you must submit to them, not only to avoid punishment, but also to keep a clear conscience."Romans 13:3-5 NLT "“We ought to obey God rather than men." Acts 5:29 NKJV "Jesus replied, “My light will shine for you just a little longer. Walk in the light while you can, so the darkness will not overtake you. Those who walk in the darkness cannot see where they are going. Put your trust in the light while there is still time; then you will become children of the light.” After saying these things, Jesus went away and was hidden from them."John 12:35,36 NKJV God blesses! Quote Lift Jesus up!!
CoAspen Posted May 20, 2011 Posted May 20, 2011 Some people would argue with a signpost, Stan!! People are protesting waaaaaaaaaaaaaaay to much, don't know what 'religious' topics might be........... ........gasping for breath!!! ....just can't stop laughing...they're killing me!!! Quote
Dr. Rich Posted May 20, 2011 Posted May 20, 2011 Woody, I think I understand, it is the 'arguing' that some don't like. They probably want everyone to be a sheep. Personally, I enjoy the many different opinions and if everyone agreed I would be gone in a flash. After all, wasn't it EGW herself who said we must agitate and if we don't we are not worth our salt? By the way Woody, I have enjoyed your welcome threads, just thought you might like to know that. Keep up the good work. Quote
Members rudywoofs (Pam) Posted May 20, 2011 Members Posted May 20, 2011 Some people would argue with a signpost, Stan!! People are protesting waaaaaaaaaaaaaaay to much, don't know what 'religious' topics might be........... ........gasping for breath!!! ....just can't stop laughing...they're killing me!!! Sorry. I didn't know there was a "Religious TownHall"... just ignore me.. Quote Pam Meddle Not In the Affairs of Dragons; for You Are Crunchy and Taste Good with Ketchup. If we all sang the same note in the choir, there'd never be any harmony. Funny, isn't it, how we accept Grace for ourselves and demand justice for others?
Stan Posted May 20, 2011 Author Posted May 20, 2011 Religious comments tend to turn into male dominated argument, the many females do not come back. We need some places that people can come for community. Quote If you receive benefit to being here please help out with expenses. https://www.paypal.me/clubadventist Administrator of a few websites like https://adventistdating.com
BobRyan Posted May 20, 2011 Posted May 20, 2011 A common missing-man complaint in churches is that it is primarily the women that show up - not the men. in Christ, Bob Quote John 8:32 - The Truth will make you free“The righteousness of Christ will not cover one cherished sin." COL 316.
Administrators Gail Posted May 20, 2011 Administrators Posted May 20, 2011 Stan, I think your experiment is working. People seem to be posting those topics here religiously since you've started it. Quote Isaiah 32:17 And the work of righteousness shall be peace; and the effect of righteousness quietness and assurance for ever.
Stan Posted May 28, 2011 Author Posted May 28, 2011 Quote If you receive benefit to being here please help out with expenses. https://www.paypal.me/clubadventist Administrator of a few websites like https://adventistdating.com
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