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<p><span style="color:#0000FF;"><span style="font-weight:bold;"><span style="font-style:italic;">"Do not use harmful words, but only helpful words, the kind that build up and provide what is needed, so that what you say will do good to those who hear you."</span></span> Eph 4:29</span><br><br><img src="http://banners.wunderground.com/weathersticker/gizmotimetemp_both/US/OR/Fairview.gif" alt="Fairview.gif"> Fairview Or</p>

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That first link, promoting, well I'm not sure WHAT it was promoting, but certainly not a male/female relationship. It was, AT BEST, "disturbing". I could hardly read her "take" on the subject without wanting to throw up. Whew,,, I'm still repulsed by it.

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Well, I felt I should include it as the second commentery is refuting it.

<p><span style="color:#0000FF;"><span style="font-weight:bold;"><span style="font-style:italic;">"Do not use harmful words, but only helpful words, the kind that build up and provide what is needed, so that what you say will do good to those who hear you."</span></span> Eph 4:29</span><br><br><img src="http://banners.wunderground.com/weathersticker/gizmotimetemp_both/US/OR/Fairview.gif" alt="Fairview.gif"> Fairview Or</p>

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Certainly, you need the two view points,,, but,,, well,,, yuck! :)

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from the first link:

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Genesis includes two versions of the story of God’s creation of the human person. First, God creates humanity male and female and then God forms the human person again, this time in the Garden of Eden. The second human person is given the name Adam and the female is formed from his rib.

What is this business of God creating humanity, then creating humans again, this time in the Garden of Eden? What Bible is *that* in???

I couldn't read the rest of it...there's enough goofiness to mimic Walt Disney's creations..

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Meddle Not In the Affairs of Dragons; for You Are Crunchy and Taste Good with Ketchup.

If we all sang the same note in the choir, there'd never be any harmony.

Funny, isn't it, how we accept Grace for ourselves and demand justice for others?

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The first article by Jennifer Knust, is an example of contemporary (liberal) Scriptural redefinition. While such conjecture is a regular contender for the informal title "Most Liberal Ideas of The Month Club" it is has the end result of making the Word of God of none effect.

Berit Kjos, in her excellent book "A Twist of Faith" documents the hundreds of women she has ministered to in an effort to pull some of them back from the edge of pantheism, enviromentalism, goddess worship et al... You would be amazed how these three are converging but that's another story..

Mrs. Knust's efforts to define David as a homosexual are just plain wrong. That is not the context of the friendship between those two, nor was it between Paul & Silas.

Everybody has their own opinion about women pastors, but we see this kind of theological deviancy more commonly among women in 'pastoral' leadership positions. I believe that gender confusion often begets more gender confusion, and I could cite a whole series of examples.

Gagnon's response is much more univocal and Scripturally faithful.

Knust appears to base her suppositions in a blend of eisogetics and Plato's symposium.

Thanks for the post!

"Please don't feed the drama queens.."

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I always thought of that part about his love for Jonathan surpassing the love of women was just him saying, "better than sex". It's not often that a guy will say that, but it speaks to me of the scale of his regard for that relationship to his mate.

Isaiah 32:17 And the work of righteousness shall be peace; and the effect of righteousness quietness and assurance for ever.

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I'd say so too,

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"Better than sex"? I don't see it that way, but I suppose one could draw that conclusion.

That saying is one I used to hear around the race track from time to time. :)

But no, I see Johnathan and David as a true, deep friendship, such as few of us have ever known, or ever will know. Something that might develop from shared great adversity, like two guys in a fox hole, under fire. Or in hand to hand combat with the enemy. Our when your lives at stake, being hunted, living under extreme duress. Such an environment creates a condition where your NOT fighting for "God and country", your fighting for the life of your friend(s). A connection that is not easy to understand unless you've gone through a similiar experience. A willingness to sacrafice their lives and more, their standings in the community, riches, wealth, glory, family, everything for each other. Such moments create a deeper and more binding love than even a woman, a womans love cannot even compare! It is almost beyond comprehension.

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"Better than sex"? I don't see it that way, but I suppose one could draw that conclusion.

That saying is one I used to hear around the race track from time to time. :)

But no, I see Johnathan and David as a true, deep friendship, such as few of us have ever known, or ever will know. Something that might develop from shared great adversity, like two guys in a fox hole, under fire. Or in hand to hand combat with the enemy. Our when your lives at stake, being hunted, living under extreme duress. Such an environment creates a condition where your NOT fighting for "God and country", your fighting for the life of your friend(s). A connection that is not easy to understand unless you've gone through a similiar experience. A willingness to sacrafice their lives and more, their standings in the community, riches, wealth, glory, family, everything for each other. Such moments create a deeper and more binding love than even a woman, a womans love cannot even compare! It is almost beyond comprehension.

I wasn't that far off, was I? :)

Isaiah 32:17 And the work of righteousness shall be peace; and the effect of righteousness quietness and assurance for ever.

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HA HA,,, you know, in racing, 2nd place is the first looser, when it comes to being "not that far off".

Oh dear, that sounds cold! My apologies. Indeed, you weren't that far off. Some analogies just work different on some folks than they do on others. I like the "fox hole" concept over the "love of a woman" concept, myself.

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