Anti-Trinitarians: Vegan, Yes or No

[Gordon1]

Yes.

[Pastor_Chick]

Yes.

Hello Gordon,

It seems we stand on the same side of the line dividing the Trinitarians from the non-Trinitarians. Correct me if I am wrong.

As for the "vegan" question, is this a survey? I am not sure how non-Trinity doctrine fits into the scheme of "vegan" diet (unless I have missed something over the years).

Since you ARE vegan, I am interested in your statistics such as:

1) How old are you?

2) How long have you been vegan?

3) What is your daily diet consisting of?

4) Have you experienced any deficiencies since becoming vegan?

5) What advantages have you discovered as the result of becoming vegan?

I may think of more questions with time.

As for me, I am a medical missionary, having been involved in the natural healing arts for over 20 years. I have, since 1974, been inclined to try many different approaches to diet.

For a time, I went on an all raw-food program. That was interesting, but not so enjoyable. When I had leukemia, I ate no cooked food for over 8 months. That period was pleasant because I developed a regime that was very palatable.

Here in Africa, I have enjoyed better health than living in America. When in the USA, it seemed that I usually needed nutritional supplements daily. Since I have moved to this more rural environment, I have not taken supplements, and even the ringing in my ears has subsided. (Oh, I am 65 years old.)

If your question must be answered with "Yes" or "No," my answer is a categorical "No." I eat local eggs, but take no milk. The fruits and vegetables are potent and usually plentiful. I never consume anything having sucrose in it (unless I do not know of its presence). Fish abounds where I live, but I do not relish it. Interestingly, however, those with HIV/AIDS issues profit from consuming fish often. I try to avoid all cooking with oils, and prefer to eat at least 50% of my food in the raw state.

If I have misunderstood your OP, please clue me in. Thank you.

[Gordon1]

Hi P. Chick,

Yes one could call it a survey. Poll formats exist on some forums but couldn't find that option here. I'm also interested in user names; polls are anonymous and subject to manipulation.

The Godhead issue is contentious here and it's puzzling that so many can overlook the plain words of Scripture.

God gave His Son. Therefore, he had a Son to give, the Son of God, brought forth in the days of eternity. (Proverbs 8, Micah 5:2). Some claim that Christ can't be divine if He is really God's only begotten Son. I wouldn't want to rest on that reasoning come judgment day. We all inherit our parents' propensities. Christ inherited perfectly from His Father. Then at Bethlehem Christ also became Son of Man.

Romans 1:20 makes it clear that the Godhead can be understood by the things of earth - begat, begat, beat.

But here's the thrust - the SOP, along with Daniel & others, show us the connection between abstemiousness and spiritual understanding. I've been vegetarian since becoming SDA over two decades ago. No meat, fish, cheese. Some yogurt, but cut that and free oils two years ago. Many thanks to the outstanding research by Caldwell Esselstyn Jr., M.D., and his peers John McDougall and T. Colin Campbell. Esselstyn reverses heart disease in his patients using a very low fat vegan diet and plenty of encouragement. (Who would have guessed?) See his website at heartattackproof.com Spin-offs show that brain function is inhibited by cardiovascular disease through multiple

mini-strokes (brain attacks) which eventually shut down cognitive function, possibly a cause of Alzheimers and dementia, and likely MS too.

For 3 months I practised a strictly raw regime @ 2 meals/day while working at hard manual fieldwork, keeping pace with a younger crowd. Felt great except for half hour lunchbreaks - too short. I'm sixteen years your junior and take no supplementation. I think raw is where we should be headed, (lots of greens) but more importantly two meals/day (never late) and a proper rhythm of eating and sleeping. John Wesley retired at 9 and awoke at 4 AM. EGW states that the remnant will be eating just enough to survive. I believe it. It's all set out for us quite nicely. We'll get more light if we walk in it. Otherwise it will turn to darkness and we'll stumble to perdition.

So there may be a link between health reform and personal views about the Godhead. (Non-Trinity and vegan fare are connected.) Send me a PM if I can add more. Myself is a least favourite topic.

[Gordon1]

We must acknowledge the Drs. Agatha & Calvin Thrash. Their many books & pamphlets have been of great service to SDA health reformers, conscientiously avoiding drug treatments in favour of natural remedies. Their witness has been a strong encouragement to walk by faith.

[Stan]

please keep the trinity discussions to one thread.

[ClubV12]

Is there some kind of mysterious connection between your interpretation of the trinity and being vegan? I know folks who are vegan and aren't even christians.

By the way, is Agatha Thrash anti-trinitarian?

[John317]

I agree with Stan.

Also, let's keep the Trinity discussions from becoming about other issues or from becoming personal and about diet, etc. Keep it concentrated on the evidence.