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John’s spirit is taken to heaven by the Lord and into the future to be shown the time of the end:

Revelation

4:1 After this I looked, and, behold, a door was opened in heaven, and the first voice which I heard was as it were of a trumpet talking with me; which said, Come up hither, and I will shew thee things which must be hereafter.

Ready believers of His church:

Revelation

3:8 I know thy works: behold, I have set before thee an open door, and no man can shut it: for thou hast a little strength, and hast kept my word, and hast not denied my name.

3:10 Because thou hast kept the word of my patience, I also will keep thee from the hour of temptation, which shall come upon all the world, to try them that dwell upon the earth.

3:11 Behold, I come quickly: hold that fast which thou hast, that no man take thy crown.

Those who profess only:

Revelation

3:15 I know thy works, that thou art neither cold nor hot: I would thou wert cold or hot.

3:16 So then because thou art lukewarm, and neither cold nor hot, I will spue thee out of my mouth.

3:17 Because thou sayest, I am rich, and increased with goods, and have need of nothing; and knowest not that thou art wretched, and miserable, and poor, and blind, and naked [Revelation 16:15]

3:18 I counsel thee to buy of me gold tried in the fire, that thou mayest be rich; and white raiment, that thou mayest be clothed, and that the shame of thy nakedness do not appear; and anoint thine eyes with eyesalve, that thou mayest see.

3:19 As many as I love, I rebuke and chasten: be zealous therefore, and repent.

3:20 Behold, I stand at the door, and knock: if any man hear my voice, and open the door, I will come in to him, and will sup with him, and he with me.

3:21 To him that overcometh will I grant to sit with me in my throne, even as I also overcame, and am set down with my Father in his throne.

The separating just before the beginning of the Lord's coming hour of trial and judgment:

Matthew

25:6 And at midnight there was a cry made, Behold, the bridegroom cometh; go ye out to meet him.

25:7 Then all those virgins arose, and trimmed their lamps.

25:8 And the foolish said unto the wise, Give us of your oil; for our lamps are gone out.

25:9 But the wise answered, saying, Not so; lest there be not enough for us and you: but go ye rather to them that sell, and buy for yourselves.

25:10 And while they went to buy, the bridegroom came; and they that were ready went in with him to the marriage: and the door was shut.

25:11 Afterward came also the other virgins, saying, Lord, Lord, open to us.

25:12 But he answered and said, Verily I say unto you, I know you not.

25:13 Watch therefore, for ye know neither the day nor the hour wherein the Son of man cometh.

The Lord advancing at Armageddon with His immortal church:

Revelation

19:11 And I saw heaven opened, and behold a white horse; and he that sat upon him was called Faithful and True, and in righteousness he doth judge and make war.

19:12 His eyes were as a flame of fire, and on his head were many crowns; and he had a name written, that no man knew, but he himself.

19:13 And he was clothed with a vesture dipped in blood: and his name is called The Word of God.

19:14 And the armies which were in heaven followed him upon white horses, clothed in fine linen, white and clean.

Stephen - Author - Truth Files

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It's good to quote scripture and all, but I'm not sure what your message is.

You are assuming that the "armies" in heaven "clothed with fine linen, white and clean" are His Church saints. Your problem is that in Revelation 15:6, angels are pictured as being clothed in "pure and fine linen". It is the righteousness of these angelic armies that is clothed on the Church Saints. This event where Christ comes on a White Horse is the very same event in 1 Thess 4:13-17, where Christ comes to gather His Church. The White Horse is a symbol of purity. In Revelation 19:15 he goes to "smite the nations", which is the very same event in 1 Thess 4:15-5:3, where the wicked receive "sudden destruction" and shall "not escape" in the "rapture" event.

~Lysimachus (Marcos S.)

Author of article, Vindicating the Year-Day Principle of Prophetic Interpretation (see attachment for article)
Currently writing a book, Vindicating the Historical School of Prophetic Interpretation
Founder of the largest and fastest SDA Apologetics Group on Facebook, Seventh-Day Adventism - Defending the Pillars of the Faith
Writer and apologetics contributor at Adventist Defense League

Vindicating the Year-Day Principle of Prophetic Interpretation.pdf

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"You are assuming that the "armies" in heaven "clothed with fine linen, white and clean" are His Church saints."

>No assumption here .... they are

>The Lord's angels are never referred to as kings and priests, or saints .... neither do they need redemption

>And you already know of the scriptures that define "saints" .... or you should

>There is not one scripture in the Bible that defines an angel as a "saint"

Stephen - Author - Truth Files

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Rev. 5:9-10 show us that the blood of Jesus purchased a Kingdom and Priests, not angels from heaven! The 'priests' represent the 144k and the Kingdom represent the 5 wise virgins. Together, during the time of trouble, their acts (deeds and works) are what causes the bride (Rev. 7:9-15) to become righteous with fine white robes. Interestingly, it is NOT what Jesus did, righteousness by faith or grace that saves them, but the acts of the HUMAN witnesses who are also found in Rev. 12:17.

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Lysimachus, I thank God for your ministry, I will also pray that you remain humble and give the glory to Him. Just trying to walk that fine line between being thankful and not upholding man in the process. God bless... :)

Posted

"You are assuming that the "armies" in heaven "clothed with fine linen, white and clean" are His Church saints."

>No assumption here .... they are

~Lysimachus (Marcos S.)

Author of article, Vindicating the Year-Day Principle of Prophetic Interpretation (see attachment for article)
Currently writing a book, Vindicating the Historical School of Prophetic Interpretation
Founder of the largest and fastest SDA Apologetics Group on Facebook, Seventh-Day Adventism - Defending the Pillars of the Faith
Writer and apologetics contributor at Adventist Defense League

Vindicating the Year-Day Principle of Prophetic Interpretation.pdf

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