Tribulation Temple on the Mount?

[Truth Files]

A temple of the Lord’s on the temple mount on the earth during the coming tribulation period of His wrath and judgment is not supported by the prophetic scriptures

He said that not one stone of the ancient temple would be left standing on the top of the temple mount when asked about the time of the end of this present age; there still is no temple standing today and there will not be at the time of the end

Some of Orthodox Judaism desire to build a temple because they think that this must be done to bring the Messiah’s first advent; but He has already come to the nation and He was rejected by the same

Neither do these of Israel believe in the N.T. portion of the scriptures and so they are off course with their current beliefs; their Messiah and King is coming for the second part of His visitation and His objective for Israel will be to pressure a remnant to turn to Him in faith for their salvation

Israel is going to experience a time of trouble that will cause a remnant part to do this, but they will not build a temple of His on the mount for Him either before or during the coming 70th week decreed for “Jacob’s trouble” [Jeremiah 30; Daniel 9:24-27; Matthew 24: 15-16; Luke 21:20-24]

Some of the N.T. professing church contend that a temple will be built because they read that Satan’s beast in the little horn of Daniel’s visions will sit in the temple during the coming tribulation period, but this one will sit in a temple of his god which is already on the mount today [either the Dome of the Rock, or the Al Aqsa Mosque] [2Thessalonians 2:2-12]

Paul understood the relationship between a pagan god and an associated temple and this is what he speaks of, not a temple of the Lord’s

Revelation 11:2 verifies this truth by telling of the court on the earth “without” the Lord’s temple which will be overrun by Satan’s beast and his followers

Revelation 11:1 compares the Lord’s temple in heaven with the court on the earth that has no temple of His

In addition there are no instructions in scripture for building a tribulation temple of the Lord’s on the temple mount, but there are for building His millennial temple after those days of the tribulation period [Ezekiel 40-48]

If one is looking for a rebuild either before or during the tribulation period, you will not see it

[Lysimachus]

A temple of the Lord’s on the temple mount on the earth during the coming tribulation period of His wrath and judgment is not supported by the prophetic scriptures

He said that not one stone of the ancient temple would be left standing on the top of the temple mount when asked about the time of the end of this present age; there still is no temple standing today and there will not be at the time of the end

Some of Orthodox Judaism desire to build a temple because they think that this must be done to bring the Messiah’s first advent; but He has already come to the nation and He was rejected by the same

Neither do these of Israel believe in the N.T. portion of the scriptures and so they are off course with their current beliefs; their Messiah and King is coming for the second part of His visitation and His objective for Israel will be to pressure a remnant to turn to Him in faith for their salvation

Israel is going to experience a time of trouble that will cause a remnant part to do this, but they will not build a temple of His on the mount for Him either before or during the coming 70th week decreed for “Jacob’s trouble” [Jeremiah 30; Daniel 9:24-27; Matthew 24: 15-16; Luke 21:20-24]

Some of the N.T. professing church contend that a temple will be built because they read that Satan’s beast in the little horn of Daniel’s visions will sit in the temple during the coming tribulation period, but this one will sit in a temple of his god which is already on the mount today [either the Dome of the Rock, or the Al Aqsa Mosque] [2Thessalonians 2:2-12]

Paul understood the relationship between a pagan god and an associated temple and this is what he speaks of, not a temple of the Lord’s

Revelation 11:2 verifies this truth by telling of the court on the earth “without” the Lord’s temple which will be overrun by Satan’s beast and his followers

Revelation 11:1 compares the Lord’s temple in heaven with the court on the earth that has no temple of His

In addition there are no instructions in scripture for building a tribulation temple of the Lord’s on the temple mount, but there are for building His millennial temple after those days of the tribulation period [Ezekiel 40-48]

If one is looking for a rebuild either before or during the tribulation period, you will not see it

Adventists agree 100% that there will be no 3rd rebuilt Temple. The Temple in Revelation 11 is referring to Heaven's Temple. Are you thinking that Adventists believe this?

If not, what is the point of this post? You appear to be not in good and regular standing with your Dispensational colleagues who will all tell you there is a future rebuilt-3rd Temple coming, with a single-antichrist man who will cause the sacrifices to cease in the temple in the "midst of the week".

You better be more clear as to what your position is on this. No need to quote dozens of scriptures. Just state what you believe without putting a scripture after every word. It's always good to state your beliefs in clear-cut-stone first before you resort to scripture. Then that way it will be possible to compare the scriptures with your statements, and see what you're getting at.

[Truth Files]

When I add more posting to this forum there will be no question about my positon and view of the rendering of Bible prophecy

..... you seem to be intimidated by the use of scripture for responding to your views

This is strange indeed .... and I do know why you reject it by the way

There is nothing more defining and powerful than the Lord's own words for expressing truth .... do you think?

[Lysimachus]

When I add more posting to this forum there will be no question about my positon and view of the rendering of Bible prophecy

..... you seem to be intimidated by the use of scripture for responding to your views

This is strange indeed .... and I do know why you reject it by the way

There is nothing more defining and powerful than the Lord's own words for expressing truth .... do you think?

All I'm asking is that you define your beliefs concerning the texts you are presenting rather than ramming a hundred texts down a scatter shot gun, and shooting them at us hoping that they will land on us and we will automatically see the light. I'm well familiar with all these passages, and I interpret them differently from you. So if you are going to get anything accomplished, add sufficient commentary to your Bible texts instead of one-line sentences ever other 5-10 texts.

[Truth Files]

Jesus refers to the holy "place" and says that there must be correct understanding of what He is saying. He does not say the "temple", but refers to the holy "place" [Matthew 24:15]

Pronunciation Guide

topos {top'-os}

TDNT Reference Root Word

TDNT - 8:187,1184

Outline of Biblical Usage

1) place, any portion or space marked off, as it were from surrounding space

a) an inhabited place, as a city, village, district

a place (passage) in a book

Pronunciation Guide

anaginosko {an-ag-in-oce'-ko}

TDNT Reference Root Word

TDNT - 1:343,55

from 303 and 1097

Outline of Biblical Usage

1) to distinguish between, to recognise, to know accurately, to acknowledge

2) to read

Pronunciation Guide

noeo {no-eh'-o}

TDNT Reference Root Word

TDNT - 4:948,636

from 3563

Outline of Biblical Usage

1) to perceive with the mind, to understand, to have understanding

2) to think upon, heed, ponder, consider

The Place of the Lord's Sanctuary

Daniel's visions reference the same place at the time of the end. [Daniel 8:11, 8:13]

Pronunciation Guide

makown {maw-kone'}

TWOT Reference Root Word

TWOT - 964c

from 03559

Outline of Biblical Usage

1) fixed or established place, foundation

a) fixed place

foundation

Pronunciation Guide

miqdash {mik-dawsh'}

TWOT Reference Root Word

TWOT - 1990f

from 06942

Outline of Biblical Usage

1) sacred place, sanctuary, holy place

2) of the temple

3) of the tabernacle

4) of Ezekiel's temple

5) of Jehovah

The temple of the man of lawlessness

Paul's reference to the man of lawlessness and the temple he will sit in [2Thessolonians 2:4]

Pronunciation Guide

naos {nah-os'}

TDNT Reference Root Word

TDNT - 4:880,625

from a primary naio (to dwell)

Outline of Biblical Usage

1) used of the temple at Jerusalem, but only of the sacred edifice (or sanctuary) itself, consisting of the Holy place and the Holy of Holies (in classical Greek it is used of the sanctuary or cell of the temple, where the image of gold was placed which is distinguished from the whole enclosure)

2) any heathen temple or shrine

3) metaph. the spiritual temple consisting of the saints of all ages joined together by and in Christ

The "holy place" referred to in the setting of the coming 70th week decreed for Israel is the temple mount area and not a rebuilt edifice [a temple of the Lord's on the earth]

The actual temple was destroyed in the first century and is no longer there [Roman invasion 70 A.D.]

The Lord has said that not one stone would be left standing of His first century temple and this fact is still true today .... and will be during His coming hour [time] of trial and judgment. It was destroyed during the Roman invasions of 70 A.D. [Matthew 24:1-2] .... Revelation 11:2 concurs "the court [top of the temple mount] which is without the Lord's temple

Satan's "man of lawlessness" will sit in the temple of "his" god, showing that he is god [either the Muslim Dome of the Rock or the Al Aqsa Mosque]

Paul understood the relationship between a pagan god and the related heathen temple [2Thessalonians 2:4]

There are no instructions contained in scripture to rebuild a temple for the Lord before He establishes His millennial Kingdom on the earth

There are instructions for rebuilding in this future time frame just after the 70th week decreed for Israel [Ezekiel 40-48]

The Lord's temple is seen in Revelation several times during the coming tribulation period of His wrath upon earth, but it is His temple in heaven and not one on the earth [Revelation 11:1]

In fact, the outer court of the temple mount on the earth is "without" His temple and the mount [court] will be trampled [controlled] by satan's little horn/beast and his human followers [the adherents of Islam] during his 42 month [1,260 day] rule [Matthew 24:15-16; 2Thessalonians 2:3-12; Revelation 11:1-19; 13:1-8; 14:15-17; 15:5-8; 16:17]

The first 1,260 days of the 70th week decreed for Israel will include satan's bid for control over the earth through his angelic agents and human followers.

This period will be an extreme time of devastation and destruction including the fall of the "great city" [civilization] of the Gentiles [nations] [Revelation 8:6-12 [burning mountain, kingdom]; 14:8; 17:16-18; 18:1-21] and the release of millions of satan's angelic hosts up[on the earth [Revelation 9]

The Lord will continue to harbor [protect] national Israel from invasion and occupation and this has been the case since 1948. His protection will prevail until the middle of the coming 70th week [Jeremiah 30; Ezekiel 38:8-16; Daniel 9:26-27; 11:41; Zechariah 14]

Satan's beast will then invade, occupy, and add the holy land, Jerusalem, and the temple mount area to the dominion of his man of lawlessness [the little horn], a king of the northern Middle East [Daniel 11:36-45; 12:7; Micah 5:5-6; Revelation 11:2; 13:1-5]

[Stan]

yeah..... well no,