Administrators Tom Wetmore Posted August 29, 2011 Administrators Posted August 29, 2011 Is it the fault of the bull that charges into crowd and gores the first one in his way? Or is it the fault of the one that provoked him by poking him repeatedly in the backside with his sharp little barbs? Quote "Absurdity reigns and confusion makes it look good." "Sinless perfection is such a shallow goal." "I love God only as much as the person I love the least." *Forgiveness is always good news. And that is the gospel truth. (And finally, the ideas expressed above are solely my person views and not that of any organization with which I am associated.)
Outta Here Posted August 29, 2011 Posted August 29, 2011 I've never seen a bull do anything that wasn't expected for a bull. Quote
Administrators Tom Wetmore Posted August 29, 2011 Author Administrators Posted August 29, 2011 I've never seen a bull do anything that wasn't expected for a bull. Actually bulls might surprise you. As a boy on the farm, we had a huge bull that was as gentle as a kitten. And the old sayings (reflecting the expected bull behavior) "bull in a china shop" and "like a red rag to a bull" are simply untrue. Mythbusters busted both of those. Bulls are actually quite agile and sure-footed around delicate obstacles and do not even see the color red. But bulls can be easily provoked if you know the little things that get their attention by deceptively and skillfully getting them to think they need to defend themselves. And those of a truly perverse nature think it refined and genteel sport to so tease bulls into a rage and then gain great accolades for killing the bull that they so successfully provoked into a raging beast. Quote "Absurdity reigns and confusion makes it look good." "Sinless perfection is such a shallow goal." "I love God only as much as the person I love the least." *Forgiveness is always good news. And that is the gospel truth. (And finally, the ideas expressed above are solely my person views and not that of any organization with which I am associated.)
Outta Here Posted August 29, 2011 Posted August 29, 2011 AUBREY I think TOM was trying to get people to think about what cause the problem dgrimm60 Yes, I know. I was simply adding my two bits to the question--something more to think on, yes? Quote
Outta Here Posted August 29, 2011 Posted August 29, 2011 Originally Posted By: Aubrey I've never seen a bull do anything that wasn't expected for a bull. Actually bulls might surprise you. As a boy on the farm, we had a huge bull that was as gentle as a kitten. And the old sayings (reflecting the expected bull behavior) "bull in a china shop" and "like a red rag to a bull" are simply untrue. Mythbusters busted both of those. Bulls are actually quite agile and sure-footed around delicate obstacles and do not even see the color red. But bulls can be easily provoked if you know the little things that get their attention by deceptively and skillfully getting them to think they need to defend themselves. And those of a truly perverse nature think it refined and genteel sport to so tease bulls into a rage and then gain great accolades for killing the bull that they so successfully provoked into a raging beast. The only bull I've been close to in a natural setting acted just as you've described. And yet, I've still never seen a bull do anything that wasn't expected for a bull. When provoked, a bull will defend itself. When left alone, it will likely be "as gentle as a kitten." Here's another few questions: Is it the fault of the man that figuratively charges into crowd and gores the first one in his way? Or is it the fault of the one that provoked him by figuratively poking him repeatedly in the backside with his sharp little barbs? Have you ever seen a man do something unexpected for a man? Quote
Moderators Bravus Posted August 30, 2011 Moderators Posted August 30, 2011 A man (or woman) however, has the advantages over a bull of reason and self-awareness and the ability to *choose* how to react. Quote Truth is important
Neil D Posted August 30, 2011 Posted August 30, 2011 Hmmmmmmm......Not to say that you have any buttons, but if I was to argue a position with you, and know what psychological/emotional buttons to push...would you not act as your bull the proverbial china shop? Quote Democracy is a device that ensures we shall be governed no better than we deserve. George Bernard Shaw
Moderators Bravus Posted August 30, 2011 Moderators Posted August 30, 2011 I'd like to hope not. There are things that make me angry, but I try to react in a way that is productive rather than destructive. Don't always manage it, but perhaps more often than a bull. Quote Truth is important
Outta Here Posted August 30, 2011 Posted August 30, 2011 A man (or woman) however, has the advantages over a bull of reason and self-awareness and the ability to *choose* how to react. And...isn't that exactly how you would expect a man to act? Using reason and self-awareness to evaluate the situation and act appropriately for a man. Quote
Neil D Posted August 30, 2011 Posted August 30, 2011 Quote Democracy is a device that ensures we shall be governed no better than we deserve. George Bernard Shaw
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