Moderators Bravus Posted September 26, 2011 Moderators Posted September 26, 2011 Can I just highly recommend this book? http://www.jakecolsen.com/contents.html I don't agree with all its conclusions, and you won't either, but it's *very* thought-provoking. It's by the same guys who wrote 'The Shack', and in a similar style. The style bugged me for the first third of the book, but then I forgot about it in enjoying the content. It will make you *really* think about the way we 'do church'. Hope people are willing to read it, and we can have a discussion here. Quote Truth is important
Pockey Posted September 27, 2011 Posted September 27, 2011 I thought William Young wrote The Shack? Or perhaps a pen name? Quote
Moderators Bravus Posted September 27, 2011 Author Moderators Posted September 27, 2011 Oops, thanks Sid, my mistake, I read that it was *published* by the same people, and confused that with authorship. You're correct that William Young wrote 'The Shack'. 'Jake Colsen' is actually a pseudonym for two authors... but the version I had in Australia had the two authors' names on the cover. Quote Truth is important
Pockey Posted September 27, 2011 Posted September 27, 2011 Ok cool, will check it out. Thanks for the rec. I still want to read The Shack as well. Quote
Moderators Bravus Posted September 27, 2011 Author Moderators Posted September 27, 2011 Yeah, I enjoyed both. Quote Truth is important
Administrators Tom Wetmore Posted September 27, 2011 Administrators Posted September 27, 2011 Downloaded... Must read.... Will post reaction... Quote "Absurdity reigns and confusion makes it look good." "Sinless perfection is such a shallow goal." "I love God only as much as the person I love the least." *Forgiveness is always good news. And that is the gospel truth. (And finally, the ideas expressed above are solely my person views and not that of any organization with which I am associated.)
Amelia Posted September 28, 2011 Posted September 28, 2011 Hey Tom, where did you download and how $$$$$$ ? Quote <p><span style="color:#0000FF;"><span style="font-weight:bold;"><span style="font-style:italic;">"Do not use harmful words, but only helpful words, the kind that build up and provide what is needed, so that what you say will do good to those who hear you."</span></span> Eph 4:29</span><br><br><img src="http://banners.wunderground.com/weathersticker/gizmotimetemp_both/US/OR/Fairview.gif" alt="Fairview.gif"> Fairview Or</p>
Administrators Tom Wetmore Posted September 28, 2011 Administrators Posted September 28, 2011 From the link Bravus posted... Quote "Absurdity reigns and confusion makes it look good." "Sinless perfection is such a shallow goal." "I love God only as much as the person I love the least." *Forgiveness is always good news. And that is the gospel truth. (And finally, the ideas expressed above are solely my person views and not that of any organization with which I am associated.)
Moderators Bravus Posted September 29, 2011 Author Moderators Posted September 29, 2011 The fact that they're making it available free encourages me that they're 'walking the talk'. Quote Truth is important
skyblue888 Posted September 29, 2011 Posted September 29, 2011 I tried to read "The Shack" but lost interest quickly. What is it you like about this book Bravus? sky Quote "The merits of His sacrifice are sufficient to present to the Father in our behalf." S.C.36.
Moderators Bravus Posted September 29, 2011 Author Moderators Posted September 29, 2011 It's very difficult to do justice to the book in a short blurb here, since much of its impact arises from the *way* the ideas are unfolded in the telling. The key point, though, is living authentically in faith in Jesus and an experience of his unconditional love for us. The book also addresses the ways in which, with the best possible intentions, church organizations, structures and rituals can impede rather than support that relationship. Well worth reading, and available free or for a small price. What's stopping you? Quote Truth is important
Members phkrause Posted September 29, 2011 Members Posted September 29, 2011 I tried to read "The Shack" but lost interest quickly. What is it you like about this book Bravus? sky Sky, I will say right up front that I didn't agree with some of there theology. But I did enjoy reading the Shack. They had an interesting perspective. Quote phkrause When the righteous are in authority, the people rejoice; But when a wicked man rules, the people groan. Proverbs 29;2
Moderators Jeannieb43 Posted September 29, 2011 Moderators Posted September 29, 2011 Well worth reading, and available free or for a small price. What's stopping you? Well, Bravus, you've convinced me. I'm now in process of printing out all 192 pages. If I don't fall asleep before reading it, I'll comment about the book here later. Quote Jeannie<br /><br /><br />...Change is inevitable; growth is optional....
Guest Posted September 29, 2011 Posted September 29, 2011 The book also addresses the ways in which, with the best possible intentions, church organizations, structures and rituals can impede rather than support that relationship. I can see how there might be some truth to that. Do what you have to do to stay at the top of your spiritual life. And try not to be a Badventist. Quote
Overaged Posted September 30, 2011 Posted September 30, 2011 Can I just highly recommend this book? http://www.jakecolsen.com/contents.html I don't agree with all its conclusions, and you won't either, but it's *very* thought-provoking. It's by the same guys who wrote 'The Shack', and in a similar style. The style bugged me for the first third of the book, but then I forgot about it in enjoying the content. It will make you *really* think about the way we 'do church'. Hope people are willing to read it, and we can have a discussion here. Quote "People [rarely] see...the bright light which is in the clouds..." (Job 37:21)"I cannot know why suddenly the stormshould rage so fiercely round me in it's wrathBut this I know: God watches all my pathAnd I can trust""God helps us to draw strength from the storm" - OveragedFaith makes things possible; it does not make them easy, Steps To Christ
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