Kathleen Willey Infuriated By Media Firestorm Over Cain's Alleged Sexu

[John317]

How would they be behaving if it were Obama who was being accused? The would not be talking about evidence or false accusations.

I believe President Obama has much more serious things to worry about than the kind of accusations Cain is dealing with.

But if Obama was accused of the same things and in the same way as Cain is being accused, I am sure they would be behaving the same as Democrats are behaving about the situation. The Democrats are trying to use it for political advantage, of course. It's the nature of the beast.

I don't believe this can justly be interpreted to mean a person isn't interested in the future of the country. When it comes to Obama, there are many Americans who voted for the president but who now wish they hadn't, and they believe that anything they can do to push Obama out of office will be for the good of the country. I agree that Obama has to go, but I wouldn't participate in any dishonesty to get it done. So if the same accusations were made against the president, I would want to see much more evidence before deciding he had done wrong. This is my view of Cain. I like Cain and agree with most of what he says, and if he turns out to be the Republican candidate, I would vote for him in a heart-beat. I also like Gingrich and Romney.

[lazarus]

But if Obama was accused of the same things and in the same way as Cain is being accused, I am sure they would be behaving the same as Democrats are behaving about the situation. The Democrats are trying to use it for political advantage, of course. It's the nature of the beast.

So because they are behaving like Democrats it's OK. The Democrats are wrong too! Bottom feeders are bottom feeders, it doesn't matter what party they come from. Btw, who are the major Democratic commentators that are tearing into Cain?

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I like Cain and agree with most of what he says, and if he turns out to be the Republican candidate, I would vote for him in a heart-beat. I also like Gingrich and Romney.

Cain never had a chance to win the nomination. He's an interesting character and I actually think Dems would love to run against him in the general. Five women accusing him a harassment is a red flag. So is that fact that he was not aware that China has nukes!

[lazarus]

One can be intellectually honest and yet disagree with Ron Paul. I think it's a mistake to think that if people really are concerned with the future of America, their intellectual honesty will result in ideas like those of Ron Paul. I like many of the things he says, but I don't agree with his thinking on foreign policy.

You can think someone is intellectually honest without agreeing with their ideas. RP has core principles and sticks to them. Most politicians don't have those core principles.

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But speaking of exploiting the division in American society, are you saying Obama is not doing this?

Most definitely.

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I don't think anybody can honestly say this about Rush or Hannity.

Exploitation is their raison detre.

[Guest]

But you don't think Obama exploits anything? LOL

I see there is no shortage of horse blinders in Maryland USA.

(Here, put these blinders on and drink this koolaid. Everything is going to be just fine) LOL

Or was it more subtle than that?

[lazarus]

So give me some examples....

[Guest]

So give me some examples....

Did Obama exploit SEAL team 6?

Does Obama plan to exploit SEAL team 6? Apparently. There are reports that his administration has given information to filmmakers who have agreed to release a movie about the Bin Laden raid a month prior to the next presidential election.

http://mainfo.blogspot.com/2011/08/did-obama-exploit-seal-team-6.html

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NBC's David Gregory Worries Obama Didn't Exploit Economic Crisis Enough to Push Big Govt

http://newsbusters.org/blogs/kyle-drenne...is-enough-push-

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Obama Moves to Exploit "Occupy" Movement's Fury

President Obama and his team have decided to turn public anger at Wall Street into a central tenet of their reelection strategy.

http://townhall.com/tipsheet/guybenson/2011/10/17/great_obama_moves_to_exploit_occupy_movements_fury

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Obama's seductive 'exploitation' theory

One of the painfully revealing episodes in Barack Obama's book "Dreams From My Father" describes his early experience listening to a sermon by the Rev. Jeremiah Wright. Among the things said in that sermon was that "white folks' greed runs a world in need." Obama was literally moved to tears by that sermon....

http://www.wnd.com/?pageId=305229

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Obama's Exploitation of His Own Flock

Will liberals ever realize that their leaders often take them for complete fools? Barack Obama, more than any political figure, depends on the undying devotion of his flock to be successful in spite of his inability to...

http://www.blog.therslpost.com/2011/07/obamas-exploitation-of-his-own-flock.html

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Obama’s “Operation Vote” – Plans For Racial Exploitation Across America

Put em’ all into nice shiny little lemming boxes based on eugenic similarities, emphasize and appeal only to their unique racial/cultural attribute, and keep everyone divided into such hyphenated small minded categories…… Brilliant !

http://theconservativetreehouse.com/2011...across-america/

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Obama Regime's Cynical Exploitation and Callous Indifference

Steve McCann

It has become more difficult as each day dawns to listen to the ramblings coming out of Washington D.C. It is either a case of abject ignorance or a deliberate attempt to find out how naive and ignorant the American people are...

http://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2011/02/obama_regimes_cynical_exploita.html

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Ok here's a few.

But this is nothing new, and there's plenty more. It's all around you, and right in front of you. But you can't see it. He exploits everything he possibly can.

He also exploits the free pass he gets from the media. He can basically say anything he wants, and they never call him or question him on any of it. I could go on. But you can't see that because you have the blinders on.

I invite you to take them off friend.

[phkrause]

Originally Posted By: lazarus

How would they be behaving if it were Obama who was being accused? The would not be talking about evidence or false accusations... They make their living on exploiting the divisions in American Society as regards to race, economics and social issues.

[lazarus]

Originally Posted By: lazarus

So give me some examples....

Did Obama exploit SEAL team 6?

Does Obama plan to exploit SEAL team 6? Apparently. There are reports that his administration has given information to filmmakers who have agreed to release a movie about the Bin Laden raid a month prior to the next presidential election.

http://mainfo.blogspot.com/2011/08/did-obama-exploit-seal-team-6.html

Did you read the links in the article?

The Pentagon confirmed Wednesday that it is cooperating with the project.

"This film project is only in the script development phase, and DoD is providing assistance with script research, which is something we commonly do for established filmmakers," Pentagon spokesman Col. Dave Lapan said. "Until there is a script to review, and a request for equipment or other DoD support, there is no formal agreement for DoD support."

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NBC's David Gregory Worries Obama Didn't Exploit Economic Crisis Enough to Push Big Govt

http://newsbusters.org/blogs/kyle-drenne...is-enough-push-

So this article is making my point not yours, right???????

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Obama Moves to Exploit "Occupy" Movement's Fury

President Obama and his team have decided to turn public anger at Wall Street into a central tenet of their reelection strategy.

http://townhall.com/tipsheet/guybenson/2011/10/17/great_obama_moves_to_exploit_occupy_movements_fury

So Obama has decided to align himself with the occupy movement. That's good political strategy but it's like GOPer's who know they can't get nominated unless they get tea party support. They are falling over themselves to agree with the tea party. Is that exploitation?

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Obama's seductive 'exploitation' theory

One of the painfully revealing episodes in Barack Obama's book "Dreams From My Father" describes his early experience listening to a sermon by the Rev. Jeremiah Wright. Among the things said in that sermon was that "white folks' greed runs a world in need." Obama was literally moved to tears by that sermon....

http://www.wnd.com/?pageId=305229

Again did you read this? This is an article in Obama's belief in white people's exploitation of the world.

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Obama’s “Operation Vote” – Plans For Racial Exploitation Across America

Put em’ all into nice shiny little lemming boxes based on eugenic similarities, emphasize and appeal only to their unique racial/cultural attribute, and keep everyone divided into such hyphenated small minded categories…… Brilliant !

http://theconservativetreehouse.com/2011...across-america/

So is a project to get the votes of racial minorities exploitation?

I didn't bother to read all of them because it seems like you didn't either. I could be wrong. Did you just google "Obama exploitation"? Come one dude!!

[Guest]

So you're saying none of these people are saying anything legitimate? You just dismiss it all out of hand. Why am I not surprised?

If you want me to take some time and come up with my own list of obama exploitations, complete with examples, I can. But I don't think it would make any difference.

[John317]

But speaking of exploiting the division in American society, are you saying Obama is not doing this?

Originally Posted By: lazarus

Most definitely.

Obama never exploits class divisions-- those between the wealthy and the non-wealthy?

Obama never exploits political divisons-- those between conservatives and liberals, or between the Left and the Right?

[John317]

One can be intellectually honest and yet disagree with Ron Paul. I think it's a mistake to think that if people really are concerned with the future of America, their intellectual honesty will result in ideas like those of Ron Paul. I like many of the things he says, but I don't agree with his thinking on foreign policy.

Originally Posted By: lazarus

You can think someone is intellectually honest without agreeing with their ideas. RP has core principles and sticks to them.

I have a cousin who agrees with you. As I said, I like many thinngs Ron Paul says, but I don't agree with him to the extent that my cousin does. I also don't think he'd have a chance of getting elected.

Originally Posted By: Lazarus

Most politicians don't have those core principles.

Do you consider Obama one of the rare intellectually honest politicians who have core principles and stick to them?

What would you say are Obama's core principles?

I see Obama more of an ideologue than President Clinton was. Clinton was more of practical politician who was willing to made radical changes if he needed to in order to stay in power or in order to do what he thought was right for the country.

An ideologue is not necessarily more honest. Marx, Lenin, Stalin, and Mao, for instance, were ideologues but none of them had much personal integrity.

[bonnie]

Do you consider Obama one of the rare intellectually honest politicians who have core principles and stick to them?

In a odd way Obama may be. The above statement does not mean that

a rare intellectually honest politician has the best interest of the country at heart.You look at his life from childhood on and the ideology he grew up with,the same he continued in his adult life.He was and is surrounded by marxist/communist/socialist czars,supporters,friends. You seek your own level in life,not unlike water does.

Up until a republican congress took over as such,Obama did pretty much as he pleased and none of it was good for the country.Now all the handwringing about not working together.You don't or should not work/compromise with those that are so completely opposed to what you believe. Compromise is not a word to be worshiped as it seems to be now.

Obama will continue dividing and rewarding till he has as many as necessary in the wagon and the government pushing it.

He is all about dependents and victims,and making as many as possible.

I think Cain disturbs those that follow that mindset. Maybe that is what some of the liberal media meant when they said "Cain was not the right kind of black"

No one here seems to be able to answer that question which I have asked more than once.

What is the right kind of black?

[lazarus]

So you're saying none of these people are saying anything legitimate? You just dismiss it all out of hand. Why am I not surprised?

I didn't dismiss them, I read the articles you sited. I posted quotesfrom the articles themselves and asked questions in response. Dismissing them out of hand would been to not respond or even read the articles. Yes I am saying they are not legitimate. The first article answered its own question. Did you notice that?

[John317]

....liberal media... said "Cain was not the right kind of black"

No one here seems to be able to answer that question which I have asked more than once.

What is the right kind of black?

I understand where that comes from historically, but I still find it very objectionable.

Isn't that degrading to black people? I'm not black but it's degrading to me just to hear people say such a thing. I would think they'd resent it. I would if people said it about white people. I wonder how MLK's niece-- who is a Republican-- feels about it. I know MLK would totally reject it.

I'd hate to hear anyone saying it about Mexican-Americans.

[lazarus]

Originally Posted By: bonnie

....liberal media... said "Cain was not the right kind of black"

No one here seems to be able to answer that question which I have asked more than once.

What is the right kind of black?

Amazing! Isn't that degrading to black people? I'm not black but it's degrading to me just to hear people say such a thing. I wonder how MLK's niece-- who is a Republican-- feels about it. I know MLK would totally reject it.

I'd hate to hear anyone saying it about Mexican-Americans.

That's a right wing invention. Who is the democrat who said that?

[lazarus]

Do you consider Obama one of the rare intellectually honest politicians who have core principles and stick to them?

Obama has been way too timid. Too Vanilla. That's been the core of his problems. I don't think he's an ideologue. He would have fared better if he was.

[John317]

That's a right wing invention. Who is the democrat who said that?

I don't know about the statement, but there's the common idea among African-Americans that a black person who runs for office as a Republican or who votes Republican isn't being true to his heritage or isn't watching out for black people.

[lazarus]

I don't know about the statement, but there's the common idea among African-Americans that a black person who runs for office as a Republican or who votes Republican isn't being true to his heritage or isn't watching out for black people.

Yes that's true and I'd agree with that. That's not the same as saying "he's the wrong kind of black". That's an unsophisticated pejorative.

[bonnie]

Yes that's true and I'd agree with that. That's not the same as saying "he's the wrong kind of black". That's an unsophisticated pejorative.

Is this by a liberal media?

MSNBC Contributor to Bashir: Cain‘s ’Predatory Black Sexuality‘ is ’Very Frightening in This Country’

Posted on November 7, 2011 at 8:23pm by Tiffany Gabbay The ever-controversial left-wing author and MSNBC contributor Touré had some choice words about Republican frontrunner Herman Cain on Martin Bashir’s program Monday. Discussing the topic of Cain’s newest accuser, Touré wondered how the GOP would react now that Cain’s is “harassing” blonde, as opposed to black women — which he asserted could only be a result of Cain’s inherent “predatory black sexuality.”

“We’re going to see how open the GOP is to this black — their ‘new black friend’ when they find out he is harassing blonde women as opposed to black women. That sort of thing of black sexuality — predatory black sexuality. Very frightening in this country, still. Very threatening. So we’ll see how that plays out.”

[Guest]

Is this by a liberal media?

MSNBC Contributor to Bashir: Cain‘s ’Predatory Black Sexuality‘ is ’Very Frightening in This Country’

Posted on November 7, 2011 at 8:23pm by Tiffany Gabbay The ever-controversial left-wing author and MSNBC contributor Touré had some choice words about Republican frontrunner Herman Cain on Martin Bashir’s program Monday. Discussing the topic of Cain’s newest accuser, Touré wondered how the GOP would react now that Cain’s is “harassing” blonde, as opposed to black women — which he asserted could only be a result of Cain’s inherent “predatory black sexuality.”

“We’re going to see how open the GOP is to this black — their ‘new black friend’ when they find out he is harassing blonde women as opposed to black women. That sort of thing of black sexuality — predatory black sexuality. Very frightening in this country, still. Very threatening. So we’ll see how that plays out.”

Uh...yes I believe it is.

[bonnie]

but there's the common idea among African-Americans that a black person who runs for office as a Republican or who votes Republican isn't being true to his heritage or isn't watching out for black people.

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Yes that's true and I'd agree with that. That's not the same as saying "he's the wrong kind of black". That's an unsophisticated pejorative.

So Cain is not true to his heritage.All blacks must think and vote the same or they are not watching out for black people.

Cain is not the right kind of black man according to what you agree is correct.

Maybe a president or presidential candidate should be watching out for all americans and not just a special skin color

[bonnie]

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Uh...yes I believe it is. [/quote']

That is about the most disgusting article to date.If Cain is guilty and that is a big if at this point,who cares about the skin color of those claiming to be "victims" white or black?

The liberal unbiased,non-racist crowd. sort of thing of black sexuality — predatory black sexuality

[olger]

I'm surprised that Anita Hill hasn't accused Herm as well.

[Guest]

It's not over yet.