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MARCH 4, 2012 by GARY DEMAR

Dear Rush:

I know you apologized for calling 30-year-old Sandra Fluke a “[censored]” and a “prostitute.” The language was certainly over the top. I know what you were thinking. Sometimes people need to be hit over the head with a 2×4 before something sinks in.

Before the watching world Ms. Fluke told us that she was sleeping around. Promiscuity and sex before marriage were once considered social taboos. No one denied that people engaged in these types of sexual encounters, but such women were generally looked down upon. I can remember people saying, “It’s OK to have sex with these types of girls, but they’re not the ones you bring home to your parents and eventually marry.”

Like you, I have reminded people that the larger issue is not about contraception. I just read a Christian Science Monitor article that continues to perpetuate the lie that conservatives want to deny women contraceptives. We don’t. We just don’t want to have our money taken from us to pay for them. If Ms. Fluke wants to engage in promiscuous sex, then she should pay for it. I don’t want to be an unwilling accomplice to her immorality and stupidity.

I’ve gotten to the point in my life that I would be willing to pay for contraceptive devices for women like Ms. Fluke if they promise never to have children. The thought of them breeding is disturbing.

I’ve read that a number of companies have withdrawn their advertising from the show. The online backup service Carbonite is one of them. Here’s what CEO David Friend said in a written statement:

“No one with daughters the age of Sandra Fluke, and I have two, could possibly abide the insult and abuse heaped upon this courageous and well-intentioned young lady.”

Can you believe this? He calls Ms. Fluke’s testimony about her self-professed promiscuity “courageous.” Am I to assume that Mr. Friend would not rebuke his own daughters for sleeping around and broadcasting it to the world? What a shame.

I found that two mattress companies – Sleep Train and Sleep Number – pulled their ads from the show.

My wife and I had just purchased a Sleep Number bed. When I heard about the company’s cancellation of its advertising, we cancelled our order and went with a competitor. I was very nice to the person taking my call. No yelling or expletives. He told me that they were keeping track of the responses. He then asked if I would like to leave a comment. I did.

My message was simple. Sleep Number had every right to complain and pull its advertising, and I had every right to cancel my order. That’s what makes America great. The issue, I said, was not about contraception but freedom. I did not appreciate the government forcing me to pay for someone else’s immoral behavior.

I liked the way you brought in liberal hypocrisy. We know it’s pandemic, but liberals never acknowledge it, and if they did, would never do anything about it. This was my favorite: “Will President Obama now give back the $1 million that Bill Maher just gave his super PAC? You want to get some of the tapes that Bill Maher has called Sarah Palin? The ‘c’ word over and over again?”

Just like Bill Clinton made oral sex acceptable to middle school students, now other young girls will argue that it’s OK to be promiscuous. Even President Obama supports Sandra Fluke. I shudder to think what our nation will be like in 20 years – if it’s still here.

http://godfatherpolitics.com/4016/dear-rush-why-i-canceled-y-sleep-number-bed/

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Have you actually *read* the transcript of the young lady's testimony?

Truth is important

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Have you actually *read* the transcript of the young lady's testimony?

I have.Far more interesting is the background of this woman and how the attempt was made to have her testify.

One of the reasons for her attending this University was because of the insurance policy of a religious institution and to challenge it.She is or was a democratic activist.This was a hearing on another matter entirely.

Most women do not take birth control pills for medical reasons.Nor do single women.They take them so they can play and not pay.Let them,I don't care if a woman has a different partner every night.Her business,she plays,let her pay.Birth control is very inexpensive even without insurance.Can't afford the 9.00 a month without insurance from Wal-Mart,or the cost of a condom doesn't give anyone the right to mandate any religious institution or business to provide it free or otherwise.

Congressional testimony on contraception mandates

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Testifying to House Democrats

On February 16, 2012, Representative Darrell Issa (R-CA), chairman of the House Committee on Oversight and Government Reform, held a hearing on infringement of religious liberty and contraceptive mandates, entitled "Lines Crossed: Separation of Church and State. Has the Obama Administration Trampled on Freedom of Religion and Freedom of Conscience?

Everything you do is based on the choices you make. It's not your parents, your past relationships, your job, the economy, the weather, an argument, or your age that is to blame. You and only you are responsible for every decision and choice you make, period ... ... Wish more people would realize this.

Quotes by Susan Gottesman

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Yes, I understand your policy and beliefs.

My point was a simpler one: the OP does not tell the truth about her testimony.

Truth is important

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Someone should clue poor clueless Sandra Fluke she doesn't need to spend 3000.00 to play or to claim to be all about a medical condition of her friend

Walmart Launches Phase Two Of Prescription Program With New $4 Medications And Increased Savings

Company removes more than $610 million from healthcare system in first year of $4 program

BENTONVILLE, Ark. – Sept. 27, 2007 – Walmart Stores, Inc. (NYSE: WMT) today announced phase two of its $4 prescription program with changes that will help even more Americans deal with the high-cost of healthcare. The program – which has already saved Americans more than $610 million in its first year – has been expanded in two key ways:

* More medicines covering more categories – Important prescription medicines have been added to the $4 program covering glaucoma, attention deficit disorder/attention deficit hyperactivity disorder (ADD/ADHD), fungal infections and acne. Fertility and prescription birth control will also be included at $9, compared to national average prices ranging from $24 to $30 per month and saving women an estimated $15 to $21 per month – $180 to $250 annually.

* Faster savings on new-to-market generics – One month ago, the antifungal Lamisil® had an average price of $337.26. The generic equivalent, terbinafine, is now available through Walmart, Sam’s Club and Neighborhood Market pharmacies for just $4 for a commonly dispensed quantity up to a 30-day supply, saving customers $333.26 per prescription. Carvedilol, the generic for Coreg®, which a month ago cost $119, will now cost $4 for a commonly dispensed quantity up to a 30-day supply, saving customers $115 per month – or approximately $1,300 per year.

With the changes announced today Walmart now covers most commonly treated medical conditions and continues to drive down healthcare costs for families. Through the program, the company has provided Walmart, Sam’s Club and Neighborhood Market customers in 16 states alone with savings of more than $396 million combined, or more than $15 million per state. A state-by-state breakdown is available at http://www.livebetterindex.com.

“Today’s announcement reinforces our commitment to driving costs out of the health system and saving money for our customers so they can live better, healthier lives,” said Dr. John Agwunobi, Walmart senior vice president and president for the professional services division. “The savings were a big deal 12 months ago and an even bigger deal today for customers struggling with spiraling healthcare costs. Everyday, they turn to our pharmacy for prescriptions to manage conditions such as diabetes, cardiovascular disease, asthma, or even simple colds.”

Additional announcement highlights include:

* During the past year, Walmart estimates that it has saved customers a total of $613,581,398.70.

* Since September 2006, customers have filled millions of $4 prescriptions, representing nearly 40 percent of prescriptions filled in Walmart, Sam’s Club and Neighborhood Market pharmacies.

* States with high levels of savings include: Texas ($79,471,091); Florida ($43,969,981); North Carolina ($28,470,880); Georgia ($24,924,421); Missouri ($24,589,118); Ohio ($23,048,247); Illinois ($22,614,573); Indiana ($20,524,690); Arkansas ($20,052,541); Oklahoma ($18,804,293); Tennessee, ($18,318,774); Louisiana ($18,137,638); Pennsylvania ($18,025,112); Kentucky ($17,198,579); Virginia ($16,148,952); and California ($15,355,893).

* After phase two of the program, a total of 361 products made up of 157 medication compounds are now available at Walmart pharmacies nationwide. With the changes announced today, $4 prescriptions are available for most commonly treated medical conditions. In fact, the program now offers a quality prescription product for up to 95 percent of the prescriptions written in the majority of therapeutic categories.

* Walmart has added 24 new $4 prescriptions – including timolol maleate (glaucoma), terbinafine (antifungal), carvedilol (cardiac), and three $9 women’s medications – including generic birth control product for Ortho Cyclen® and Ortho Tri-Cyclen®, and a fertility product, Clomiphene. The full list is available at http://www.walmart.com/pharmacy.

“This program has exceeded all of our expectations,” said Bill Simon, executive vice president, chief operating officer, Walmart Stores Division. “So many Americans rely on our $4 prescription program to get the medicines they need. Phase two of the program is a welcome move that brings additional value and choice to our pharmacy customers, and we’ll continue to look for new ways to drive costs out of the healthcare system.”

The $4 prescription program was initially launched in Tampa, Florida on September 21, 2006 and expanded to 49 states by November 28, 2006 (Walmart does not operate in-store pharmacies in its North Dakota stores). Walmart has also introduced a similar discount program in Puerto Rico, Mexico and Brazil, bringing significant savings to customers in those markets. Today, the program is available at 4005 Walmart, Sam’s Club and Neighborhood Market pharmacies throughout the United States.

“Walmart’s $4 prescription drug program has had a major impact at a time when rising healthcare costs are on everyone’s mind,” said Paul A. London, former Deputy Under Secretary of Commerce for Economics and Statistics in the Clinton Administration and author of The Competition Solution: The Bipartisan Secret behind American Prosperity, who has been engaged by Walmart to analyze the program’s economic impact. “This program has the potential to lower what the country pays for prescription drugs by tens of billions of dollars annually as customers learn of the program and competitors match it. Walmart is applying its basic business model to lower prices and make affordable healthcare available to more Americans.”

For further information on the program, customers can call 1-800-WALMART or visit their area Walmart, Neighborhood Market or Sam’s Club to discuss the program with their pharmacist. Certain drugs are priced higher than $4 in some states – including California, Colorado, Hawaii, Minnesota, Montana, Pennsylvania, Tennessee, Wisconsin and Wyoming. Due to state laws, the newly added women’s medications are not available at $9 in those states.

Generic medications contain the same active ingredients as their “brand-name” counterparts and are equally effective, but cost significantly less. Consumers interested in saving money on prescriptions through the program should ask their doctor if a generic is available for their prescription and is right for them.

About Walmart

Walmart Stores, Inc. operates Walmart discount stores, Supercenters, Neighborhood Markets and Sam’s Club locations in the United States. The Company operates in Argentina, Brazil, Canada, China, Costa Rica, El Salvador, Guatemala, Honduras, Japan, Mexico, Nicaragua, Puerto Rico and the United Kingdom. The Company’s securities are listed on the New York Stock Exchange under the symbol WMT. More information about Walmart can be found by visiting www.walmartfacts.com. Online merchandise sales are available at www.walmart.com.

Everything you do is based on the choices you make. It's not your parents, your past relationships, your job, the economy, the weather, an argument, or your age that is to blame. You and only you are responsible for every decision and choice you make, period ... ... Wish more people would realize this.

Quotes by Susan Gottesman

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Advertisers line up to be on Rush's show. He actually picks the ones he "allows" to run on his show. Paul Harvey use to be in a position to do the same thing when he was alive. This whole controversy just drives Rush's ratings up so he can charge the next batch of advertisers even more.

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Limbaugh calling anyone a [censored] is really a projection if you think about it.

Great spirits have always found violent opposition from mediocrities. The latter cannot understand it when a man does not thoughtlessly submit to hereditary prejudices but honestly and courageously uses his intelligence.

Einstein

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Limbaugh calling anyone a [censored] is really a projection if you think about it.

The word "[censored]"is in the dictionary. Pretty clear meaning as is the W word.It depicts a certain lifestyle and behavior on the part of a woman. Those words reflect her values concerning sexual relations among other issues.

Her duplicity in this,one of her deliberate reasons for choosing this institution was doing exactly what she did speaks volumes about her as a person.Trying to force her particular sexual lifestyle on a religious institution.

Obama's role in this is as misleading and a lie by omission.

Who is he to try to force a religion/business/party to provide

anything by force to another?

If Sandra Flukes big concern is birth control,go where they provide it,or GROW UP and purchase your own.

Everything you do is based on the choices you make. It's not your parents, your past relationships, your job, the economy, the weather, an argument, or your age that is to blame. You and only you are responsible for every decision and choice you make, period ... ... Wish more people would realize this.

Quotes by Susan Gottesman

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Where is the outrage when the left attacks women. There is none. No apologies either, and nobody calling for one.

Bill Mar, on his show, called Sarah Palin a dumb tw*t, and a c*nt. He used the C word on her over and over..and over. He referred to her and Michelle Bachman as two stupid bimbos.

Now maybe it's just me, but I think that is far worse than anything Rush said. And where was the outrage when the entire mainstream (left wing) media, attacked Sarah Palin brutally, and her whole family. Even her children. They called them names, (that were untrue btw) and made up all kinds of lies about them. They literally tried to destroy the Palins.

Did any of them apologize? No! So as it stands, Rush is a cut above all of them, by doing the right thing and apologizing. A TALL cut above.

When I see them and/or Bill Mar start apologizing, or if I see Rush's rhetoric rise to anywhere near their level. Then I'll listen to some of the dumb stuff I see posted on this thread. But until then, all this fake outrage by the left is just comical at best.

I liked what you said bonnie.

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And now Obummer has taken a million dollars from Bill Mar. How can he take money from somebody who treats women like that, if he's such the defender of women? He should give that money back, and lead by example. Like he said he was going to do today. Lead by example. LOL

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Will Obama Super PAC Return Misogynist Bill Maher's Million-Dollar Donation?

5:39 PM, Mar 5, 2012 • By JOHN MCCORMACK

In response to the media firestorm surrounding Rush Limbaugh's insulting comments about Democratic activist Sandra Fluke (comments for which Limbaugh apologized), Kirsten Powers writes about the liberal men who have used misogynistic rhetoric without facing the same outrage. Powers notes that "the grand pooh-bah of media misogyny is without a doubt Bill Maher—who also happens to be a favorite of liberals—who has given $1 million to President Obama’s super PAC." She continues:

Click here to find out more!

More by John McCormack

Maher has called Palin a “dumb t..t” and dropped the C-word in describing the former Alaska governor. He called Palin and Congresswoman Bachmann “boobs” and “two bimbos.” He said of the former vice-presidential candidate, “She is not a mean girl. She is a crazy girl with mean ideas.” He recently made a joke about Rick Santorum’s wife using a vibrator. Imagine now the same joke during the 2008 primary with Michelle Obama’s name in it, and tell me that he would still have a job. Maher said of a woman who was harassed while breast-feeding at an Applebee’s, “Don't show me your tits!” as though a woman feeding her child is trying to flash Maher. (Here’s a way to solve his problem: don’t stare at a strangers’ breasts). Then, his coup de grâce: “And by the way, there is a place where breasts and food do go together. It’s called Hooters!”

Former White House deputy press secretary Bill Burton, the man who runs Obama's super PAC, did not reply when asked if he will be returning Maher's $1 million donation.

Update: Read Powers's full article here. For more on Obamacare's abortifacient and contraception mandate, see: "The High Price of 'Free' Health Care."

Everything you do is based on the choices you make. It's not your parents, your past relationships, your job, the economy, the weather, an argument, or your age that is to blame. You and only you are responsible for every decision and choice you make, period ... ... Wish more people would realize this.

Quotes by Susan Gottesman

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One of the biggest contrasts to the behavior and the name calling is glaring.The conservative women were called vulgar names simply because they were conservative and probably a little because they are generally extremely attractive.

There was nothing in their conduct or behavior.

Sandra Fluke wants women to play and have others pay.Maybe she should have chosen another institution.

What a pathetic bunch of people that feel they can demand others pay because they want them to.

My husband was turned down for a insurance policy in Dec.One I really wanted to get him on. Maybe Obama should force them to change their policy to accommodate my demands

Everything you do is based on the choices you make. It's not your parents, your past relationships, your job, the economy, the weather, an argument, or your age that is to blame. You and only you are responsible for every decision and choice you make, period ... ... Wish more people would realize this.

Quotes by Susan Gottesman

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'The other side does wrong things too, so it's OK for our side to do wrong things'.

Not quite how I read the Bible...

Truth is important

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This is the political forum. If you want to discuss theology, there is a forum for that.

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'The other side does wrong things too, so it's OK for our side to do wrong things'.

Not quite how I read the Bible...

No,Rush should never have sunk to the same level.Period. However,where does the moral outrage come from.If conservative women are fair game for vulgar name calling for simply being conservative women it is more than a little hypocritical for any liberal to take offense at Rush Limbaugh.

Should never have put himself in the position to have to apologize but he did. Quite without restraint or the usual "It's been taken out of context"

One very noticeable difference between a conservative woman and this liberal woman is the reaction to the apology

Ed Shultz called Laura Ingrams a s..t just because she was a conservative woman.He was forced to apologize and Laura accepted

Sandra Fluke did not.

Everything you do is based on the choices you make. It's not your parents, your past relationships, your job, the economy, the weather, an argument, or your age that is to blame. You and only you are responsible for every decision and choice you make, period ... ... Wish more people would realize this.

Quotes by Susan Gottesman

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... Rush is a cut above all of them, by doing the right thing and apologizing. A TALL cut above.

Rush is a monster....He lives to stir up strife and discontention.

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Gal 5:19 Now the works of the flesh are evident, which are: adultery,fornication, uncleanness, lewdness, 20 idolatry, sorcery, hatred, contentions, jealousies, outbursts of wrath, selfish ambitions, dissensions, heresies, 21 envy, murders,drunkenness, revelries, and the like; of which I tell you beforehand, just as I also told you in time past, that those who practice such things will not inherit the kingdom of God.

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Originally Posted By: RLH
... Rush is a cut above all of them, by doing the right thing and apologizing. A TALL cut above.

Rush is a monster....He lives to stir up strife and discontention.

Exactly what Obama and Sandra Fluke wanted t do with this issue

Everything you do is based on the choices you make. It's not your parents, your past relationships, your job, the economy, the weather, an argument, or your age that is to blame. You and only you are responsible for every decision and choice you make, period ... ... Wish more people would realize this.

Quotes by Susan Gottesman

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Gal 5:19 Now the works of the flesh are evident, which are: adultery,fornication, uncleanness, lewdness, 20 idolatry, sorcery, hatred, contentions, jealousies, outbursts of wrath, selfish ambitions, dissensions, heresies, 21 envy, murders,drunkenness, revelries, and the like; of which I tell you beforehand, just as I also told you in time past, that those who practice such things will not inherit the kingdom of God.

Everything you do is based on the choices you make. It's not your parents, your past relationships, your job, the economy, the weather, an argument, or your age that is to blame. You and only you are responsible for every decision and choice you make, period ... ... Wish more people would realize this.

Quotes by Susan Gottesman

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Limbaugh should have apologized, but let us avoid offering Fluke too much sympathy. She paid for the bed; now she gets to — er — lay on it.

"Please don't feed the drama queens.."

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Originally Posted By: Robert
Rush is a monster....He lives to stir up strife and discontention.

Exactly what Obama and Sandra Fluke wanted t do with this issue

Exactly, thank you!

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