Moderators lazarus Posted May 8, 2012 Moderators Posted May 8, 2012 So; are you equating "privileges" or lack thereof, to "equality?" That has nothing to do with equality. So please give me an example of equality or the lack thereof. Quote Great spirits have always found violent opposition from mediocrities. The latter cannot understand it when a man does not thoughtlessly submit to hereditary prejudices but honestly and courageously uses his intelligence. Einstein
Stan Posted May 8, 2012 Posted May 8, 2012 this reminds me a bit of the human body. Being different or having different talents does not make them unequal. Quote If you receive benefit to being here please help out with expenses. https://www.paypal.me/clubadventist Administrator of a few websites like https://adventistdating.com
Administrators Naomi Posted May 8, 2012 Administrators Posted May 8, 2012 this reminds me a bit of the human body. Being different or having different talents does not make them unequal. Quote If your dreams are not big enough to scare you, they are not big enough for God
Overaged Posted May 8, 2012 Author Posted May 8, 2012 Originally Posted By: doug yowell Kobe Bryant makes millions of dollars playing basketball Yep. That's why I said this..... Some inequities are a natural part of life and are accepted. Why is this an "inequity?" Quote "People [rarely] see...the bright light which is in the clouds..." (Job 37:21)"I cannot know why suddenly the stormshould rage so fiercely round me in it's wrathBut this I know: God watches all my pathAnd I can trust""God helps us to draw strength from the storm" - OveragedFaith makes things possible; it does not make them easy, Steps To Christ
Overaged Posted May 8, 2012 Author Posted May 8, 2012 Originally Posted By: Overaged So; are you equating "privileges" or lack thereof, to "equality?" That has nothing to do with equality. So please give me an example of equality or the lack thereof. Is that a yes? Quote "People [rarely] see...the bright light which is in the clouds..." (Job 37:21)"I cannot know why suddenly the stormshould rage so fiercely round me in it's wrathBut this I know: God watches all my pathAnd I can trust""God helps us to draw strength from the storm" - OveragedFaith makes things possible; it does not make them easy, Steps To Christ
doug yowell Posted May 8, 2012 Posted May 8, 2012 Originally Posted By: doug yowell Everybody who benefits from the perception that they are not equal feels threatened by any perceived attempt to put them back on an equal footing with the rest of society. I really haven't noticed that myself. Can you give an example? Of course "everybody" is a little hyperbolous but a recent example comes to mind. The Democratic candidate running for Senate in Mass. recently made a point to proclaim her Native American status (1/32).Recently I heard the story of a college applicant who was told by the university to claim Native American status on her admission form as it might be beneficial to her acceptance (she too was 1/32).Identifying one's self as a minority often has legal,educational and political perks (black, hispanic, woman, GBLT,ect...)I see President Obama as the perfect example of one who receives the benefits of a perceived inequality,don't you? Quote
Overaged Posted May 8, 2012 Author Posted May 8, 2012 The Equality Hub Bub: Well - some will see prejudice under each and every rock. Quote "People [rarely] see...the bright light which is in the clouds..." (Job 37:21)"I cannot know why suddenly the stormshould rage so fiercely round me in it's wrathBut this I know: God watches all my pathAnd I can trust""God helps us to draw strength from the storm" - OveragedFaith makes things possible; it does not make them easy, Steps To Christ
Overaged Posted May 8, 2012 Author Posted May 8, 2012 this reminds me a bit of the human body. Being different or having different talents does not make them unequal. lol; I think you are on to me... Quote "People [rarely] see...the bright light which is in the clouds..." (Job 37:21)"I cannot know why suddenly the stormshould rage so fiercely round me in it's wrathBut this I know: God watches all my pathAnd I can trust""God helps us to draw strength from the storm" - OveragedFaith makes things possible; it does not make them easy, Steps To Christ
Overaged Posted May 8, 2012 Author Posted May 8, 2012 Anybody care for a challenge? Can you give us a Bible text that would better define equality? Quote "People [rarely] see...the bright light which is in the clouds..." (Job 37:21)"I cannot know why suddenly the stormshould rage so fiercely round me in it's wrathBut this I know: God watches all my pathAnd I can trust""God helps us to draw strength from the storm" - OveragedFaith makes things possible; it does not make them easy, Steps To Christ
doug yowell Posted May 8, 2012 Posted May 8, 2012 Anybody care for a challenge? Can you give us a Bible text that would better define equality? Romans 3:23 Quote
Overaged Posted May 8, 2012 Author Posted May 8, 2012 Oh boy!!! I'm a gonna have fun with you Doug! lol But I cant do it now. Gotta run to work! Quote "People [rarely] see...the bright light which is in the clouds..." (Job 37:21)"I cannot know why suddenly the stormshould rage so fiercely round me in it's wrathBut this I know: God watches all my pathAnd I can trust""God helps us to draw strength from the storm" - OveragedFaith makes things possible; it does not make them easy, Steps To Christ
doug yowell Posted May 8, 2012 Posted May 8, 2012 Oh boy!!! I'm a gonna have fun with you Doug! lol But I cant do it now. Gotta run to work! Me too. See ya. Quote
CoAspen Posted May 8, 2012 Posted May 8, 2012 Still much stumbling around........ [quote...support for challenging racism, sexism, and social injustice may be facilitative of critical consciousness, and in particular the capacity for critical reflection. Quote
Members phkrause Posted May 8, 2012 Members Posted May 8, 2012 Can you give us a Bible text that would better define equality? Romans 3:23 Romans 3:23 since all have sinned and come short of earning God's praise. Yes we are all equal in our Lords eyes. But unfortunately we see each other through our eyes and not his! Sad isn't it? Quote phkrause When the righteous are in authority, the people rejoice; But when a wicked man rules, the people groan. Proverbs 29;2
Moderators lazarus Posted May 8, 2012 Moderators Posted May 8, 2012 Quote: Identifying one's self as a minority often has legal,educational and political perks (black, hispanic, woman, GBLT,ect...) And of course being white male has led to legal, educational and political perks too! Don't ya think? Folks will use anything that might give them a perceived advantage with a particular group or elevate their status. GOP candidates have used military service and a CEO was accused of padding his resume recently. If your are saying that folks will cheat. I agree. ...but your point was that they.... "feel threatened by a perceived attempt to put them back on equal footing with the rest of society". Your examples don't demonstrate that. Quote: I see President Obama as the perfect example of one who receives the benefits of a perceived inequality,don't you? Perfect example? Really? How so? Quote Great spirits have always found violent opposition from mediocrities. The latter cannot understand it when a man does not thoughtlessly submit to hereditary prejudices but honestly and courageously uses his intelligence. Einstein
Administrators Naomi Posted May 8, 2012 Administrators Posted May 8, 2012 Quote: Identifying one's self as a minority often has legal,educational and political perks (black, hispanic, woman, GBLT,ect...) And of course being white male has led to legal, educational and political perks too! Don't ya think? NOPE!!! Quote If your dreams are not big enough to scare you, they are not big enough for God
Moderators lazarus Posted May 8, 2012 Moderators Posted May 8, 2012 So; are you equating "privileges" or lack thereof, to "equality?" That has nothing to do with equality. A man is refused membership to a golf club becasue he puts he puts "factory worker" as his occupation on the application form. The management has a policy that only allows professionals to join. The club is treating applicants unequally. Inequality produces advantages/privileges for some and disadvantages for others. Quote Great spirits have always found violent opposition from mediocrities. The latter cannot understand it when a man does not thoughtlessly submit to hereditary prejudices but honestly and courageously uses his intelligence. Einstein
Woody Posted May 9, 2012 Posted May 9, 2012 Quote: A man is refused membership to a golf club becasue he puts he puts "factory worker" as his occupation on the application form. The management has a policy that only allows professionals to join. The club is treating applicants unequally. Inequality produces advantages/privileges for some and disadvantages for others. I know of a religious 'club' that only accepts those who accept all 28 fundamentals and demonstrate a walk with Christ. That promotes disadvantages for others. Quote May we be one so that the world may be won. Christian from the cradle to the grave I believe in Hematology.
Moderators lazarus Posted May 9, 2012 Moderators Posted May 9, 2012 I know of a religious 'club' that only accepts those who accept all 28 fundamentals and demonstrate a walk with Christ. That promotes disadvantages for others. So you agree with the whole notion of church membership now? I thought you didn't like the church membership idea. Is your post a round about way of saying that the golf club is correct in treating potential customers in such a inequitable manner? Quote Great spirits have always found violent opposition from mediocrities. The latter cannot understand it when a man does not thoughtlessly submit to hereditary prejudices but honestly and courageously uses his intelligence. Einstein
Woody Posted May 9, 2012 Posted May 9, 2012 I plan to prepare a good meal of scones and smoothies tomorrow. And while I know this is a very popular menu item - I reserve the right to invite whom I choose to MY meal. Quote May we be one so that the world may be won. Christian from the cradle to the grave I believe in Hematology.
Overaged Posted May 9, 2012 Author Posted May 9, 2012 I plan to prepare a good meal of scones and smoothies tomorrow. And while I know this is a very popular menu item - I reserve the right to invite whom I choose to MY meal. Well; that's good! But is that "equality?" Quote "People [rarely] see...the bright light which is in the clouds..." (Job 37:21)"I cannot know why suddenly the stormshould rage so fiercely round me in it's wrathBut this I know: God watches all my pathAnd I can trust""God helps us to draw strength from the storm" - OveragedFaith makes things possible; it does not make them easy, Steps To Christ
Overaged Posted May 9, 2012 Author Posted May 9, 2012 Originally Posted By: Overaged Oh boy!!! I'm a gonna have fun with you Doug! lol But I cant do it now. Gotta run to work! Me too. See ya. lol; you have to wait more Doug! I am out of internet time for tonight...I won't forget. ILL BE BACK... Quote "People [rarely] see...the bright light which is in the clouds..." (Job 37:21)"I cannot know why suddenly the stormshould rage so fiercely round me in it's wrathBut this I know: God watches all my pathAnd I can trust""God helps us to draw strength from the storm" - OveragedFaith makes things possible; it does not make them easy, Steps To Christ
doug yowell Posted May 9, 2012 Posted May 9, 2012 Originally Posted By: lazarus And of course being white male has led to legal, educational and political perks too! Don't ya think? NOPE!!! In 1912, yes. In 1962, no doubt. In 2012,I'm going,nope 2.Probably the same answer for the past 25+ years. Quote
doug yowell Posted May 9, 2012 Posted May 9, 2012 Originally Posted By: Overaged So; are you equating "privileges" or lack thereof, to "equality?" That has nothing to do with equality. A man is refused membership to a golf club becasue he puts he puts "factory worker" as his occupation on the application form. The management has a policy that only allows professionals to join. The club is treating applicants unequally. Inequality produces advantages/privileges for some and disadvantages for others. Other than not being able to join that particular golf club,how is the non-member disadvantaged? Even golf club membership comes with certain responsibilities that the non-member is free from. Quote
doug yowell Posted May 9, 2012 Posted May 9, 2012 A group of trick-or-treaters comes to my door and I invite them all in to pick whatever candy they want for their bags. The next group of kids is refused entrance and given only a single piece each for their bag. Equally treated? Was I doing something "wrong" by not inviting every group of kids into my home? Quote
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