Woody Posted May 18, 2012 Posted May 18, 2012 I just have to shake my head and wonder how people can actually believe this kinda stuff: http://www.bibleanswer.com/sabbath.htm Quote May we be one so that the world may be won. Christian from the cradle to the grave I believe in Hematology.
Gibs Posted May 18, 2012 Posted May 18, 2012 I wonder if they can tell that to The Almighty One and get away with it. Well they are getting away with it for just a very little while yet but Yah's cup of indignation is more than at the brim, beginning to stand above it I'm afraid. That is a great example of the well oiled oratations of deceit that man has gotten into and he puffs up himself and thinks he is great. Yes great alright as their father the devil at deceiving the poor gulible people. 1Jo 4:4 ¶ Ye are of God, little children, and have overcome them: because greater is he that is in you, than he that is in the world. Quote A Freeman In Jesus Christ
Woody Posted May 18, 2012 Author Posted May 18, 2012 IF they are deceived and yet they love Jesus - then they are saved. Praise God we are not saved based upon the correct theology we might understand or not understand. God knows our hearts and that's what matters. Quote May we be one so that the world may be won. Christian from the cradle to the grave I believe in Hematology.
Moderators Gerr Posted May 18, 2012 Moderators Posted May 18, 2012 Eve was deceived. Was she not booted out of the Garden? Quote
Woody Posted May 18, 2012 Author Posted May 18, 2012 Eve was deceived. Was she not booted out of the Garden? It was not because of being deceived - it was because of her choice after being deceived. We can't know if people have gone from being deceived - to making a decision against God. We just can't know when someone has done that. Praise God that HE is our judge. Quote May we be one so that the world may be won. Christian from the cradle to the grave I believe in Hematology.
Moderators Gerr Posted May 18, 2012 Moderators Posted May 18, 2012 ‎ESV ‎‎Ga 6:7 Do not be deceived: God is not mocked, for whatever one sows, that will he also reap. Quote
Administrators Naomi Posted May 18, 2012 Administrators Posted May 18, 2012 Eve was deceived. Was she not booted out of the Garden? I submit that Eve was deceived, Adam made a choice. The end result was the same. Quote If your dreams are not big enough to scare you, they are not big enough for God
Gibs Posted May 18, 2012 Posted May 18, 2012 Eve did one more thing too, showing the result of having succumbing to sin. She got Adam to eat of it too. She might have said to Adam, I goofed don't you eat of it too. Well it all happened and we now must be the overcomers here and now, Jeus requires it. Blessings to all who see that and that all may see it too. 1Jo 4:4 ¶ Ye are of God, little children, and have overcome them: because greater is he that is in you, than he that is in the world. Quote A Freeman In Jesus Christ
Woody Posted May 18, 2012 Author Posted May 18, 2012 The Law demands obedience. Praise God - HE fulfilled the Law FOR US. Those in Him can now be saved. By HIS Righteousness we are Freed. Quote May we be one so that the world may be won. Christian from the cradle to the grave I believe in Hematology.
Lysimachus Posted May 18, 2012 Posted May 18, 2012 I just have to shake my head and wonder how people can actually believe this kinda stuff: http://www.bibleanswer.com/sabbath.htm So do I have to be the one to respond to each point made in this link? Why do we just make passing comments that we "disagree" with it, but but not PROVE that we have good reason to disagree with it? Yikes, if I had more time, I would, but why even bring this up if we're not going to exegetically dismantle and refute this garbage? Quote ~Lysimachus (Marcos S.) Author of article, Vindicating the Year-Day Principle of Prophetic Interpretation (see attachment for article) Currently writing a book, Vindicating the Historical School of Prophetic Interpretation Founder of the largest and fastest SDA Apologetics Group on Facebook, Seventh-Day Adventism - Defending the Pillars of the Faith Writer and apologetics contributor at Adventist Defense League Vindicating the Year-Day Principle of Prophetic Interpretation.pdf
Administrators Naomi Posted May 18, 2012 Administrators Posted May 18, 2012 .........but why even bring this up if we're not going to exegetically dismantle and refute this garbage? It's a red herring .... the more time we spend on this stuff the less time we have to spend on salvation issues. At least IMHO Quote If your dreams are not big enough to scare you, they are not big enough for God
Woody Posted May 19, 2012 Author Posted May 19, 2012 Originally Posted By: Woody I just have to shake my head and wonder how people can actually believe this kinda stuff: http://www.bibleanswer.com/sabbath.htm So do I have to be the one to respond to each point made in this link? Why do we just make passing comments that we "disagree" with it, but but not PROVE that we have good reason to disagree with it? Yikes, if I had more time, I would, but why even bring this up if we're not going to exegetically dismantle and refute this garbage? It's so ridiculous all one can do is shake their head. It's like - if one knows the Bible - then the answers to this are very clear. Kinda like - learning your ABCs. So, no I don't care to go through it either. I just posted it as a head shaker - not one to be taken seriously. Quote May we be one so that the world may be won. Christian from the cradle to the grave I believe in Hematology.
Kountzer Posted May 19, 2012 Posted May 19, 2012 The catholic explanation of how Sunday became the main worship day is much more honest and plausible. It is wrong, but it is honest. Most of the time they will tell you that the sabbath is on the seventh day, and that they were the ones who changed it to Sunday, or at least attempted to do so. I seen several versions of the bible argument linked to. Those studies are so convoluted. Quote I prayed for twenty years but received no answer until I prayed with my legs. Frederick Douglass
Lysimachus Posted May 19, 2012 Posted May 19, 2012 The catholic explanation of how Sunday became the main worship day is much more honest and plausible. It is wrong, but it is honest. Most of the time they will tell you that the sabbath is on the seventh day, and that they were the ones who changed it to Sunday, or at least attempted to do so. I seen several versions of the bible argument linked to. Those studies are so convoluted. You are very right Kountzer. And this is why the Catholic Church laughs and makes fun of Protestants who keep Sunday, because they know that the only reason they are keeping Sunday is because of the Catholic Church, and that in so doing, they are paying homage to them, in spite of themselves. So, in order to get around this, many Protestant evangelicals began to dance between the raindrops and come up with all kinds of justifications, such as given in the link by Woody. Truly, their reasons are an epic fail at an attempt to justify their reasons for keeping Sunday. For those of you who are interested in hearing sound arguments that refute every single one of the arguments given in that sheet of paper, listen to the 5-part, "85 Stupid Questions Presented to Sabbatarians" radio show, by Mike Warren and D.S. Farris. They completely dismantle everything that sheet of paper states: http://hearingthetruth.org/programs/library.htm (scroll down to "85 STUPID QUESTIONS PRESENTED TO SABBATARIANS SERIES") You can read these 85 questions here, on this Sabbath/Adventist attacking website: http://www.bible.ca/7-sabbath-questions.htm D.S. Farris and Mike Warren are refuting this webpage. They should load in M3U streaming audio files--in your default player, such as Windows Media Player. If they don't load, let me know. Quote ~Lysimachus (Marcos S.) Author of article, Vindicating the Year-Day Principle of Prophetic Interpretation (see attachment for article) Currently writing a book, Vindicating the Historical School of Prophetic Interpretation Founder of the largest and fastest SDA Apologetics Group on Facebook, Seventh-Day Adventism - Defending the Pillars of the Faith Writer and apologetics contributor at Adventist Defense League Vindicating the Year-Day Principle of Prophetic Interpretation.pdf
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