Moderators John317 Posted May 26, 2012 Moderators Posted May 26, 2012 By Ashley Jennings | ABC News Blogs – 13 hours ago Man Admitted to Hospital for Kidney Stone, Discovers He's a Woman A Colorado man who was admitted to the hospital for a kidney stone received surprising news when the nurse came back with test results revealing he was actually a woman. Denver photographer Steve Crecelius said he's felt a little different all his life. "When I was about 6 years old, I started having these feminine feelings, but that was in the '60s. Wearing my mom's makeup, I thought I looked pretty," Crecelius told ABC News. So when he went to the emergency room five years ago, he wasn't too shocked when the nurse told him she found traits of both genders in his ultrasound results. He was intersex, meaning he had both male genitalia and internal female sex organs. "The nurse is reading the ultrasound and says, 'Huh, this says you're a female,' Crecelius said. "It was very liberating. I had spent so much energy after the age of 13 constantly evaluating how people looked at me and acted towards me." Steve, who now goes by "Stevie," said his wife and their six children accepted his new identity right away. "We told them individually. Some were in person and some weren't," Crecelius said. "Every one of them said, 'We don't care one way or the other. We love you for who you are and you're still my dad.'" Crecelius and his wife, Debbie, have been together for 25 years and she's supported him every step of the way, including taking him to buy his first bra. She told Crecelius, "You know, when I first saw you, I said to myself, 'He runs like a girl.'" "I think we were pretty good when she began to mourn the loss of her husband," Crecelius said. "We worked through what we needed to. The concept of unconditional love is a larger story." Intersex is a term used to describe people who bear both external genitals and internal organs, such as testes and ovaries. A person with the condition may have male genitals along with fallopian tubes and ovaries. "The condition used to be called hermaphroditism, meaning that person can't be identified as male or female," Crecelius said. According to the Intersex Society of North America, more than 1,500 children a year are born intersex. For Crecelius, he hopes he can be an advocate for those born intersex and same-sex couples. "I think of bullying, because I haven't heard anyone talk about this. It's important to talk about," Crecelius said. "People need to be accepting and understand. I was born this way, and loving each other and supporting each other will always be the main factor in our household." Source and video: http://gma.yahoo.com/blogs/abc-blogs/man...ews-health.html Quote John 3:16-17 For God so loved the world, that he gave his only Son, that whoever believes in him should not perish but have eternal life. [17] For God did not send his Son into the world to condemn the world, but in order that the world might be saved through him.
olger Posted May 26, 2012 Posted May 26, 2012 Shades of Ray Davies? G Quote "Please don't feed the drama queens.."
Moderators John317 Posted May 26, 2012 Author Moderators Posted May 26, 2012 I don't recognize or remember that name, olger. Quote John 3:16-17 For God so loved the world, that he gave his only Son, that whoever believes in him should not perish but have eternal life. [17] For God did not send his Son into the world to condemn the world, but in order that the world might be saved through him.
olger Posted May 26, 2012 Posted May 26, 2012 He wrote the song, Lola. Quote "Please don't feed the drama queens.."
Members phkrause Posted May 26, 2012 Members Posted May 26, 2012 I don't recognize or remember that name, olger. From the group "The Kinks" Quote phkrause When the righteous are in authority, the people rejoice; But when a wicked man rules, the people groan. Proverbs 29;2
Administrators Gail Posted May 26, 2012 Administrators Posted May 26, 2012 L-O-L-A Lola, La la la la Lolaaaaaaaaa Quote Isaiah 32:17 And the work of righteousness shall be peace; and the effect of righteousness quietness and assurance for ever.
Moderators John317 Posted May 26, 2012 Author Moderators Posted May 26, 2012 Oh ok, yes, I do remember the music. I never paid much attention in those days to the lyrics. Quote John 3:16-17 For God so loved the world, that he gave his only Son, that whoever believes in him should not perish but have eternal life. [17] For God did not send his Son into the world to condemn the world, but in order that the world might be saved through him.
Moderators Gerr Posted May 26, 2012 Moderators Posted May 26, 2012 L-O-L-A Lola, La la la la Lolaaaaaaaaa Whatever Lola wants, Lola gets..... Quote
GreatLakesGramma Posted May 26, 2012 Posted May 26, 2012 I wonder if the children mentioned in the article were adopted. It doesn't seem likely at first thought that the person could really be female if he/she fathered children with a woman, but I guess that in reality, if he/she has the actual organs, sperm could be produced either way. But if any of the biological children are male, then genetically he can't possible be female. What a mess sin has made in this world! Quote Catherine God is the strength of my heart and my portion forever. Psalm 73:26. "To be a Christian means to forgive the inexcusable, because God has forgiven the inexcusable in you." -- C. S. Lewis
Moderators Gerr Posted May 26, 2012 Moderators Posted May 26, 2012 If he/she has a family and is functionally male, if it were me I would have the female parts removed and get rid of the confusion. Quote
Administrators Naomi Posted May 26, 2012 Administrators Posted May 26, 2012 Interesting ... just sayin interesting Quote If your dreams are not big enough to scare you, they are not big enough for God
GreatLakesGramma Posted May 26, 2012 Posted May 26, 2012 If he/she has a family and is functionally male, if it were me I would have the female parts removed and get rid of the confusion. That's easy enough for you to say, being all male, both physically and mentally. But the individual in question has always been mentally and emotionally female. I have thought about it myself from time to time, and am quite sure that if I, with all of my feminine feelings and preferences, were trapped in a male body, I would be a terribly mixed up and miserable person. I would not want to live with that. I think I would actually rather be dead. Quote Catherine God is the strength of my heart and my portion forever. Psalm 73:26. "To be a Christian means to forgive the inexcusable, because God has forgiven the inexcusable in you." -- C. S. Lewis
olger Posted May 26, 2012 Posted May 26, 2012 Interesting ... just sayin interesting Quote "Please don't feed the drama queens.."
doug yowell Posted May 26, 2012 Posted May 26, 2012 Maybe Stevie can get together with Sweet Lorreta Martin? Quote
doug yowell Posted May 26, 2012 Posted May 26, 2012 So if Stevie has internal female organs can he get pregnant as well as being able to impregnate other women? Hasn't he already fathered 6 kids? Will the Supreme Court rule to allow him to marry himself,uh,herself,uh......selves? Quote
doug yowell Posted May 26, 2012 Posted May 26, 2012 Originally Posted By: Gerry Cabalo If he/she has a family and is functionally male, if it were me I would have the female parts removed and get rid of the confusion. That's easy enough for you to say, being all male, both physically and mentally. But the individual in question has always been mentally and emotionally female. I have thought about it myself from time to time, and am quite sure that if I, with all of my feminine feelings and preferences, were trapped in a male body, I would be a terribly mixed up and miserable person. I would not want to live with that. I think I would actually rather be dead. But wouldn't getting rid of the female part go a long ways towards helping with the mental and emotional, and physical part of it? Or wouldn't vice-versa be somewhat helpful in other ways? Quote
GreatLakesGramma Posted May 26, 2012 Posted May 26, 2012 But wouldn't getting rid of the female part go a long ways towards helping with the mental and emotional, and physical part of it? Or wouldn't vice-versa be somewhat helpful in other ways? It might help somewhat, but probably not a lot. And why would someone who's always felt more female than male want to get rid of that part of themselves that they most identify with? It's easy enough to pass judgment on those who have issues in their lives we've never had to deal with, and to give our opinion of what they should do about it, but ultimately, it is their life, and their decision to make. Quote Catherine God is the strength of my heart and my portion forever. Psalm 73:26. "To be a Christian means to forgive the inexcusable, because God has forgiven the inexcusable in you." -- C. S. Lewis
doug yowell Posted May 26, 2012 Posted May 26, 2012 It might help somewhat, but probably not a lot. And why would someone who's always felt more female than male want to get rid of that part of themselves that they most identify with? Quote
GreatLakesGramma Posted May 26, 2012 Posted May 26, 2012 Sure, Doug. But a male solution isn't going to help a female mind much. Have you ever tried to solve a woman's problems for her before? If so, how well did that go? Probably not very well. Quote Catherine God is the strength of my heart and my portion forever. Psalm 73:26. "To be a Christian means to forgive the inexcusable, because God has forgiven the inexcusable in you." -- C. S. Lewis
doug yowell Posted May 26, 2012 Posted May 26, 2012 Sure, Doug. But a male solution isn't going to help a female mind much. Have you ever tried to solve a woman's problems for her before? If so, how well did that go? Probably not very well.Have you been talkin to my wife?? Quote
GreatLakesGramma Posted May 27, 2012 Posted May 27, 2012 LOL! No. I take it you've heard plenty on her opinion of your problem-solving skills? <-- Is this Doug giving advice to his wife? Quote Catherine God is the strength of my heart and my portion forever. Psalm 73:26. "To be a Christian means to forgive the inexcusable, because God has forgiven the inexcusable in you." -- C. S. Lewis
Administrators Naomi Posted May 27, 2012 Administrators Posted May 27, 2012 Originally Posted By: Naomi Interesting ... just sayin interesting LOL Okay fess up ... how did you get my picture? Quote If your dreams are not big enough to scare you, they are not big enough for God
olger Posted May 27, 2012 Posted May 27, 2012 I used my decoder ring... Quote "Please don't feed the drama queens.."
doug yowell Posted May 27, 2012 Posted May 27, 2012 LOL! No. I take it you've heard plenty on her opinion of your problem-solving skills? <-- Is this Doug giving advice to his wife? Yes. I'm being trained to just listen now.Can't figure out how that's supposed to help but it's a lot less painful for me. Quote
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