Woody Posted July 1, 2012 Posted July 1, 2012 "A prophet is simply a man bearing a message from God." Seventh-day Adventist Bible Commentary, Vol. 5, 383. Please note that the church's stand on the issue of a prophet - is that the prophet must be a man. They needed women's lib even back in Ellen White's time. And we still need it today. Quote May we be one so that the world may be won. Christian from the cradle to the grave I believe in Hematology.
Lysimachus Posted July 1, 2012 Posted July 1, 2012 The expression "man" simply can mean human being, in a non-gender format. Paul talks about the "man of God". It just means a person of God. Quote ~Lysimachus (Marcos S.) Author of article, Vindicating the Year-Day Principle of Prophetic Interpretation (see attachment for article) Currently writing a book, Vindicating the Historical School of Prophetic Interpretation Founder of the largest and fastest SDA Apologetics Group on Facebook, Seventh-Day Adventism - Defending the Pillars of the Faith Writer and apologetics contributor at Adventist Defense League Vindicating the Year-Day Principle of Prophetic Interpretation.pdf
Q.E.D. Posted July 1, 2012 Posted July 1, 2012 "27 So God created man in his own image, in the image of God created he him; male and female created he them"(Gen 1:27) Hmmmm. . . Man. . .male and female created he them. Quote Satanic Verses-Salman Rushdie.
Members phkrause Posted July 1, 2012 Members Posted July 1, 2012 The expression "man" simply can mean human being, in a non-gender format. Paul talks about the "man of God". It just means a person of God. That's exactly what I was thinking. Because when God says in Genesis that he created Man, he was calling Adam and Eve, Man. Quote phkrause When the righteous are in authority, the people rejoice; But when a wicked man rules, the people groan. Proverbs 29;2
Members phkrause Posted July 1, 2012 Members Posted July 1, 2012 "27 So God created man in his own image, in the image of God created he him; male and female created he them"(Gen 1:27) Hmmmm. . . Man. . .male and female created he them. Quote phkrause When the righteous are in authority, the people rejoice; But when a wicked man rules, the people groan. Proverbs 29;2
Woody Posted July 1, 2012 Author Posted July 1, 2012 This is not written in OT lingo. This is current English language. I pray that a man is a man and not a woman. Quote May we be one so that the world may be won. Christian from the cradle to the grave I believe in Hematology.
Woody Posted July 1, 2012 Author Posted July 1, 2012 Gen. 2:23 "And Adam said, This [is] now bone of my bones, and flesh of my flesh: she shall be called Woman, because she was taken out of Man." Since the Bible tells us to call a Woman a Woman and Man a Man - I think it best to do as scripture tells us to do. :) Quote May we be one so that the world may be won. Christian from the cradle to the grave I believe in Hematology.
Woody Posted July 2, 2012 Author Posted July 2, 2012 Okay Og You may be right. For if a woman so desires to be in the office of prophet - she thus has the right: "[Women] are to be qualified to take any post that may be offered" Ellen White ("The Influence of Women," The Health Reformer, June 1880, 175) Quote May we be one so that the world may be won. Christian from the cradle to the grave I believe in Hematology.
Woody Posted July 2, 2012 Author Posted July 2, 2012 Yes - "When a great and decisive work is to be done, God chooses men and women to do this work, and it will feel the loss if the talents of both are not combined." —Ellen G. White, Evangelism p. 469 Quote May we be one so that the world may be won. Christian from the cradle to the grave I believe in Hematology.
Woody Posted July 2, 2012 Author Posted July 2, 2012 Which is interesting considering the following: "I do not recommend that women should seek to become a voter or an office holder" Ellen White --Review and Herald, Dec. 19, 1878. ChS 28 Quote May we be one so that the world may be won. Christian from the cradle to the grave I believe in Hematology.
doug yowell Posted July 3, 2012 Posted July 3, 2012 I pray that a man is a man and not a woman.LGBT, it's getting harder to tell nowadays. Quote
doug yowell Posted July 3, 2012 Posted July 3, 2012 For if a woman so desires to be in the office of prophet - she thus has the right: Does Andrews offer that degree? Quote
Gibs Posted July 3, 2012 Posted July 3, 2012 Originally Posted By: Woody For if a woman so desires to be in the office of prophet - she thus has the right: Does Andrews offer that degree? Heh, heh, To be a false prophet anyone can get into the fray. But altogether a different story with a true. You see only God is the Prophet, the person is the messenger whom He alone doth choose! By His Spirit if in you, you will know the True one. 1Jo 4:4 ¶ Ye are of God, little children, and have overcome them: because greater is he that is in you, than he that is in the world. Quote A Freeman In Jesus Christ
Members rudywoofs (Pam) Posted July 3, 2012 Members Posted July 3, 2012 Okay Og You may be right. For if a woman so desires to be in the office of prophet - she thus has the right: "[Women] are to be qualified to take any post that may be offered" Ellen White ("The Influence of Women," The Health Reformer, June 1880, 175) The actual quote: Originally Posted By: Ellen White The Lord designs that the school [Avondale] shall also be a place where a training may be gained in women’s work—cooking, house-work, dressmaking, book-keeping, correct reading and pronunciation. They are to be qualified to take any post that may be offered,—superintendents, Sabbath-school teachers, Bible workers. They must be prepared to teach day schools for children. Quote Pam Meddle Not In the Affairs of Dragons; for You Are Crunchy and Taste Good with Ketchup. If we all sang the same note in the choir, there'd never be any harmony. Funny, isn't it, how we accept Grace for ourselves and demand justice for others?
doug yowell Posted July 3, 2012 Posted July 3, 2012 "[Women] are to be qualified to take any post that may be offered" Ellen White ("The Influence of Women," The Health Reformer, June 1880, 175) Quote
Members phkrause Posted July 4, 2012 Members Posted July 4, 2012 Originally Posted By: Woody Okay Og You may be right. For if a woman so desires to be in the office of prophet - she thus has the right: "[Women] are to be qualified to take any post that may be offered" Ellen White ("The Influence of Women," The Health Reformer, June 1880, 175) The actual quote: Originally Posted By: Ellen White The Lord designs that the school [Avondale] shall also be a place where a training may be gained in women’s work—cooking, house-work, dressmaking, book-keeping, correct reading and pronunciation. They are to be qualified to take any post that may be offered,—superintendents, Sabbath-school teachers, Bible workers. They must be prepared to teach day schools for children. Interesting how easy it is to spin something to say what we want it to say, but fortunately the truth always comes out. Thanks Pam. Quote phkrause When the righteous are in authority, the people rejoice; But when a wicked man rules, the people groan. Proverbs 29;2
Windsor Posted July 4, 2012 Posted July 4, 2012 The motto of Loma Linda University is "To Make Man Whole". No they aren't just in the business of treating male patients. This topic smells like a troll. Quote Remember Adventists Online?
Woody Posted July 4, 2012 Author Posted July 4, 2012 The motto of Loma Linda University is "To Make Man Whole". No they aren't just in the business of treating male patients. The motto is referring to mankind. It does not have an 'a' in front of it. The quote has an 'a' in front and thus could not been read "A Mankind". However the motto you quoted can have mankind inserted without the 'a'. Quote May we be one so that the world may be won. Christian from the cradle to the grave I believe in Hematology.
doug yowell Posted July 4, 2012 Posted July 4, 2012 Interesting how easy it is to spin something to say what we want it to say, but fortunately the truth always comes out. Thanks Pam. Ja!! Quote
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