Woody Posted July 13, 2012 Posted July 13, 2012 http://www.washingtonpost.com/local/sund...vGeW_story.html Quote May we be one so that the world may be won. Christian from the cradle to the grave I believe in Hematology.
Gibs Posted July 13, 2012 Posted July 13, 2012 There is only one Leader safe to follow and that is Jesus Christ only. It is heartening to see these you brought up seeing this and I hope His Spirit leads them further that they will be saved in His kingdom freed from the bondage of sin. Maybe the Lord will send the right teacher to them and His Spirit convicts them. 1Jo 4:4 ¶ Ye are of God, little children, and have overcome them: because greater is he that is in you, than he that is in the world. Quote A Freeman In Jesus Christ
M. T. Cross Posted July 13, 2012 Posted July 13, 2012 I don't think we should submit to the will of anyone at all. Quote
doug yowell Posted July 13, 2012 Posted July 13, 2012 I don't think we should submit to the will of anyone at all.Would that principle apply for first graders too? Quote
Woody Posted July 13, 2012 Author Posted July 13, 2012 Originally Posted By: EmptyCross I don't think we should submit to the will of anyone at all. Would that principle apply for first graders too? I have to agree with EC. I don't think we should submit to first graders. Quote May we be one so that the world may be won. Christian from the cradle to the grave I believe in Hematology.
M. T. Cross Posted July 13, 2012 Posted July 13, 2012 Originally Posted By: EmptyCross I don't think we should submit to the will of anyone at all. Would that principle apply for first graders too? There is a difference between following rules and submitting your will. A difference between opening up your mind to learning and subitting your will. With that in mind - yes that applies to first graders. I would be horrified if my 7 year old submitted his will. In the end all that we have is our will. It makes us what we are. Quote
Administrators Naomi Posted July 13, 2012 Administrators Posted July 13, 2012 Quote: There is a difference between following rules and submitting your will. A difference between opening up your mind to learning and subitting your will. Right On! Quote If your dreams are not big enough to scare you, they are not big enough for God
Moderators Gerr Posted July 13, 2012 Moderators Posted July 13, 2012 ‎NIV84 ‎‎Ro 13:1 Everyone must submit himself to the governing authorities, for there is no authority except that which God has established. The authorities that exist have been established by God. ESV Acts 5:29 We must obey God rather than men. Quote
doug yowell Posted July 13, 2012 Posted July 13, 2012 There is a difference between following rules and submitting your will. A difference between opening up your mind to learning and subitting your will. With that in mind - yes that applies to first graders. I would be horrified if my 7 year old submitted his will. In the end all that we have is our will. It makes us what we are. Yes, but the question asked was about submitting to another's will not our submitting our will to another's will.And I'm guessing that it also excluded the submission of our will to God's will? Quote
Gibs Posted July 13, 2012 Posted July 13, 2012 Gerry, I would differ in the fact that, "if" the the powers that be are established of God. Then Yes. But Satan is the god of this world and he has established most of the ruling powers in this world today. If you hold tight to Romans 13:1 you will be keeping the Sunday before long. Notice now verse 3 of the same chapter, Ro 13:3 For rulers are not a terror to good works, but to the evil. Wilt thou then not be afraid of the power? do that which is good, and thou shalt have praise of the same: "do that which is good", well could you obey an evil ruler and keep Sunday at his command over God Almighty? For me the answer is NO! 1Jo 4:4 ¶ Ye are of God, little children, and have overcome them: because greater is he that is in you, than he that is in the world. Quote A Freeman In Jesus Christ
Gibs Posted July 13, 2012 Posted July 13, 2012 Gerry, I see we agree. And a note here of is there anyone we should submit our will to? Yes, Yes, His name is Jesus Christ. We must fall on Him and be broken of our will and then to be of His Will only. Then dead of the old man and a new one walking with Him. 1Jo 4:4 ¶ Ye are of God, little children, and have overcome them: because greater is he that is in you, than he that is in the world. Quote A Freeman In Jesus Christ
Woody Posted July 13, 2012 Author Posted July 13, 2012 Quote: But Satan is the god of this world and he has established most of the ruling powers in this world today. Excellent Point Gibs. The Earth IS Satan's domain. Quote May we be one so that the world may be won. Christian from the cradle to the grave I believe in Hematology.
Gibs Posted July 13, 2012 Posted July 13, 2012 God is always first and our will must be submitted to Him. That is a very sure must. And, Ac 5:29 Then Peter and the other apostles answered and said, We ought to obey God rather than men. 1Jo 4:4 ¶ Ye are of God, little children, and have overcome them: because greater is he that is in you, than he that is in the world. Quote A Freeman In Jesus Christ
Gibs Posted July 13, 2012 Posted July 13, 2012 For SDA's on the forum, a word from EGW, "Let each individual member of the church feel that he is responsible in a large measure for the strength and prosperity of the church. While you do to the very utmost of your ability, God will as surely do his part, giving you divine enlightenment. God will work, and you must work to the same end to accomplish the same purpose, as faithful soldiers of an army work in harmony with the plans and purposes of their officers. Our will must be surrendered to the will of God. These churches that are small may be living, healthy, strong churches. {RH, September 27, 1887 par. 22} 1Jo 4:4 ¶ Ye are of God, little children, and have overcome them: because greater is he that is in you, than he that is in the world. Quote A Freeman In Jesus Christ
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