Sharp Increases In Rapes and Robberies in Loma Linda

[phkrause]

Is it "race-bating" to mention the fact that the guys who took this Loma Linda woman to the park and raped her all night were black?

You may consider it "race-bating" but I call it the truth and telling the facts. It's a sorry state of affairs when telling the full truth is called "race-bating."

Personally I have no problem with someone saying that someone is Black, Jewish, White, etc. Having said that, it also depends on the person saying that, because if we know the person and how they use those names, than we know how they are using those terms. I have many African American friends and most will call me "whitey," that doesn't bother me at all, because I know that they have no malice towards me when they say that. But now if someone I don't really know says that, I stop and wonder are they being sarcastic or are they just joking. Anyway that's my thoughts on this subject.

[Felix Florimon]

So, when people are raped, it's right to blame the victim and the entire community for "letting" it happen? Do you apply this principle to all other communities?

[John317]

...The guilt lies primarily with the perpetrator; it does not lie with the victim. However, we are not talking about a regular kind of rape in which the victim is sharing the same closed room, a deserted building or a semi-deserted forest. This is a gang rape after picking up a victim in a semi-public place that needs to be shared by many other individuals and taking this individual to park that is also being frequented by other people; ....

You don't know what you're talking about. Some gang members from Rialto kidnapped her late at night in a dark parking lot and took her around midnight to a closed park where a dozen or so gang members repeatedly raped her and beat her, etc. Later she committed suicide.

[Felix Florimon]

You don't know what you're talking about. Some gang members from Rialto kidnapped her late at night in a dark parking lot and took her around midnight to a closed park where a dozen or so gang members repeatedly raped her and beat her, etc. Later she committed suicide.

That's my point. Raping defenseless women and aggravated assaults to any person are crimes that could occur anywhere, any day and at any time. Nonetheless, the biggest deterrent of crime is when the criminal knows that a human person assigned to that job may be observing. Therefore, it is just a matter of common sense to have women and men dorms having parking space assigned to their residents in a well lit area, close to the dorm and with a night supervision of a worker who has been assigned a night shift.

FF

[Guest]

Is it "race-bating" to mention the fact that the guys who took this Loma Linda woman to the park and raped her all night were black?

You may consider it "race-bating" but I call it the truth and telling the facts. It's a sorry state of affairs when telling the full truth is called "race-bating."

Amen brother!

[olger]

Originally Posted By: John317

Is it "race-bating" to mention the fact that the guys who took this Loma Linda woman to the park and raped her all night were black?

You may consider it "race-bating" but I call it the truth and telling the facts. It's a sorry state of affairs when telling the full truth is called "race-bating."

Amen brother!

AMEN 2.0²

[Kountzer]

1. Besides myself and Lazarous no one that is african american hangs out in this dump. So race bait all you want, no one is paying attention. You're the one who will answer for it.

2. Never been to Loma Linda. I hear it's a nice place, better than most. But, LL is not heaven. It is located on this sin cursed planet and is subject to all the problems associated with that. Besides sin, evil etc. started in heaven. If it can start there what makes you think LL is immune?

3. Continuing the 2..evil didn't start in africa, it didn't originate in the inner city. You can buy all the guns known to man and shoot every person of color, and you would still have problems.

4.If 'batman' from a nice family, well educated, 'white', can color his hair flaming red, then sneak into a theatre and try to eliminate as many people as he can...that should tell you something. Get over yourself. You are not all that. You're just as evil as anyone else. Some would say more so.

[Kountzer]

http://ssnet.org/blog/2012/09/confidence-in-the-face-of-evil/

[Kountzer]

And what gets me is a day or two from now you got nerve enough to wonder why we have region conferences. One of the main reasons is staring you in the face when you look in the mirror. smh.

peace.

[bonnie]

1. Besides myself and Lazarous no one that is african american hangs out in this dump. So race bait all you want, no one is paying attention. You're the one who will answer for it.

2. Never been to Loma Linda. I hear it's a nice place, better than most. But, LL is not heaven. It is located on this sin cursed planet and is subject to all the problems associated with that. Besides sin, evil etc. started in heaven. If it can start there what makes you think LL is immune?

3. Continuing the 2..evil didn't start in africa, it didn't originate in the inner city. You can buy all the guns known to man and shoot every person of color, and you would still have problems.

4.If 'batman' from a nice family, well educated, 'white', can color his hair flaming red, then sneak into a theatre and try to eliminate as many people as he can...that should tell you something. Get over yourself. You are not all that. You're just as evil as anyone else. Some would say more so.

So race bait all you want, no one is paying attention.

This is not exactly true is it? Your posts seem to say otherwise.

Did you object when the description of George Zimmerman was always a "white hispanic"?

What is so special about the color of someone's skin that it is racist to state?

evil didn't start in africa, Absolutely nothing was said to indicate anyone thought evil started in Africa or that only black americans commit crimes.

Maybe you should also get over yourself.

[Tom Wetmore]

You must not have read the book, "Adventures in Missing the Point"...

[bonnie]

You must not have read the book, "Adventures in Missing the Point"...

No actually I haven't,but didn't miss the point.

The OP mentioned the race of some lawless thugs and became racist in the mind of some.

There isn't anything special about skin color,no matter what it is.

[lazarus]

4.If 'batman' from a nice family, well educated, 'white', can color his hair flaming red, then sneak into a theatre and try to eliminate as many people as he can...that should tell you something. Get over yourself. You are not all that. You're just as evil as anyone else. Some would say more so.

Don't play with Kountzer, he'll make it plain!

[Kountzer]

2 Thessalonians 3:1–5

Pray for Us

3 Finally, brethren, apray for us, that the word of the Lord may run swiftly and be glorified, just as it is with you, 2 and bthat we may be delivered from unreasonable and wicked men; cfor not all have faith.

3 But dthe Lord is faithful, who will establish you and eguard you from the evil one. 4 And fwe have confidence in the Lord concerning you, both that you do and will do the things we command you.

5 Now may gthe Lord direct your hearts into the love of God and into the patience of Christ.

[Felix Florimon]

And in those days, when the number of the disciples was multiplied, there arose a murmuring of the Grecians against the Hebrews...

[John317]

L.A. County Gang Members Accused of Crime Spree in Loma Linda, Highland

A woman who lives on Columbia Court said she came home, two burglars jumped out her window, and one of them ran past and punched her in the face, according to the Sheriff's Dept.

Three men identified as Los Angeles County gang members were behind bars Friday on suspicion of pulling burglaries in Loma Linda and Highland and prompting a lockdown at a daycare center, sheriff's officials said.

In the first incident, a Loma Linda woman said she came home Tuesday, two burglars jumped out her window and one of them punched her in the face, deputies said in a statement.

She returned to her home in the 11800 block of Columbia Court before 3 p.m. Sept. 4 and found the garage door open, deputies said.

"As she walked toward the front door, she saw glass from a broken window," deputies said. "Almost immediately two Hispanic male suspects jumped out the window from inside her home. One of the suspects ran past her and punched her in the face."

The suspects jumped into a Dodge Magnum station wagon, where a third suspect waited to drive, and they fled north on Columbia, deputies said.

"The victim's home was completely ransacked and many doors and cabinets completely destroyed," deputies said.

The suspects got away with money and electronics, but "many more valuables were staged in a pile that the suspects would have gotten away with had they not been interrupted by the victim," deputies said.

About an hour passed and just before 4 p.m. in Highland, a resident reported seeing two Hispanic males breaking into a neighbor's home in the 7300 block of Marigold Avenue.

Deputies and detectives arrived and found a Dodge Magnum parked nearby. As deputies approached the Magnum, the driver sat up and drove off at a high rate of speed.

The Magnum driver led deputies on a chase through east Highland, "until the driver eventually lost control and crashed through a fence and into a dirt field at Orchard and Terrace," according to the Sheriff's Department.

The driver ran through the field but deputies caught him. He was later identified as George Velis, 21, of the Walnut Street Gang, deputies said. Numerous stolen items were found in the Magnum.

Deputies at the burglarized home on Marigold found stolen items scattered near the residence. They believed two suspects were still at large in the area.

"Neighbors reported seeing the suspects run through properties towards a shopping center at Baseline and Church Street," deputies said.

Deputies, K9 officers, San Bernardino police, and a sheriff's helicopter crew converged on the area and concentrated their search near the Kindercare daycare center where the suspects were last seen, according to the Sheriff's Department.

"During this time the daycare center was locked down for the safety of the children and staff inside," deputies said.

The suspects were seen pacing through a parking lot, and when deputies arrived they found one of them trying to call a taxi, according to the Sheriff's Department.

He was taken into custody and identified as Gabriel Corona, 25, also of the Walnut Street Gang, deputies said.

"An exhaustive search was conducted but the third suspect was not immediately located and the businesses were removed from lockdown," deputies said.

About 45 minutes later an off-duty police officer who knew about the ongoing search called in.

"The officer heard noises in the thick brush on the west side of the now closed Kindercare and spotted a suspect, apparently hiding," deputies said.

The off-duty officer guided responding deputies to the location where they found the third suspect and took him into custody. He was identified as Manuel DeLeon, 22, of the Bratz Gang, deputies said.

Velis and Corona were locked up Friday at Central Detention Center in San Bernardino, according to inmate records. Bail for Velis and Corona was listed at $500,000 each. DeLeon was behind bars at West Valley Detention Center and his bail was listed as $100,000.

The Sheriff's Department pointed out Corona is on AB109 Release from prison.

"With the passage of AB109, law enforcement agencies across the state are experiencing an increase in property crimes due mainly to the influx of recently released state prisoners that have been transferred to county probation departments," sheriff's officials said. "Many of these AB109 releases are unemployed and/or homeless and are looking for quick supplemental income."

Criminals from outside the community are responsible for a percentage of a recent crime increase noted in Loma Linda, sheriff's Capt. Steve Dorsey told the Loma Linda council last week.

Source: http://redlands.patch.com/articles/three...-linda-highland

[John317]

Does anybody consider it "race-bating" to tell the truth about the thieves being "hispanic"? Would it be "race-bating" to say that suspected thieves or rapists or murderers are black?

If a suspect is white, I'd like to know it. Same with a suspect who is American indian, etc.

[John317]

.... The young black men who gang raped a nursing student from Loma Linda, the 'batman' from a nice family, well educated, 'white', that colored his hair flaming red, then sneaked into a theatre and tried to eliminate as many people as he could and the "white Hispanic" man called George Zimmerman, all of them had something in common: They were "Bible illiterates" because it is highly likely that no person showed any interest to teach them to love and learn about Jesus Christ.

All this is just conjecture on your part. You know nothing about those people, particularly the young black men who gang raped the nursing student. You can't assume that no one ever talked to them about Jesus or the Bible.

[John317]

2. Never been to Loma Linda. I hear it's a nice place, better than most. But, LL is not heaven.

You should go some time. Yes it is still a very nice place.

You're right it's not heaven, but for me growning up there, it was like a little taste of heaven.

[BobRyan]

Sharp Increase in Rapes, Robberies, Assaults Noted in City of Loma Linda

...

Rapes increased 100 percent from 2010 to 2011, robberies increased 114 percent, and aggravated assaults increased 78 percent, San Bernardino County sheriff's Capt. Steve Dorsey told the Loma Linda council.

Dorsey presented statistics comparing crime the past two years, as well as numbers for the first six months of 2012. He has served as chief of police in Loma Linda the past year and a half, Loma Linda City Manager Jarb Thaipejr said.

There were no murders or manslaughter cases in Loma Linda in 2010 or 2011. Dorsey cited statistics including:

Crimes 2010 2011 Percent Change

Rape 3 6 100%

Robbery 7 15 114%

Aggravated Assault 18 32 78%

Simple Assault 58 77 33%

Burglary 173 144 -17%

Larceny 298 304 2%

Grand Theft Auto 83 84 1%

Loma Linda has about 23,000 residents. The faith- and health-based community includes Loma Linda University Church of Seventh-day Adventists, Loma Linda University Medical Center and Jerry L. Pettis Memorial Veterans Medical Center.

It has been more than 10 years since I have visited LL - but as I recall it did not appear to be either safe or a faith-based community in large sections of the city outside of the actual LLU campus - even then.

in Christ,

Bob

[BobRyan]

the 'batman' from a nice family, well educated, 'white', that colored his hair flaming red, then sneaked into a theatre and tried to eliminate as many people as he could and the "white Hispanic" man called George Zimmerman, all of them had something in common: They were "Bible illiterates"

Did anyone ever prove that Zimmerman's account of self-defense was not true or is he still being used as a political scape goat?

in Christ,

Bob

[lazarus]

Does anybody consider it "race-bating" to tell the truth about the thieves being "hispanic"? Would it be "race-bating" to say that suspected thieves or rapists or murderers are black?

If a suspect is white, I'd like to know it. Same with a suspect who is American indian, etc.

Race-baters often think they are doing their community a service.

[phkrause]

Race-baters often think they are doing their community a service.

I do agree Lazarus, but I would not put John in that category.

[Felix Florimon]

Does anybody consider it "race-bating" to tell the truth about the thieves being "hispanic"? Would it be "race-bating" to say that suspected thieves or rapists or murderers are black?

If a suspect is white, I'd like to know it. Same with a suspect who is American indian, etc.

The real issue is not the issue of "race-batting." The real issue is the issue of a biblically based spiritual maturity. A person who has developed a good level of "spiritual maturity" (based on biblical teachings) will see that this is not a problem provoked by the racial make up of the perpetrators but by a lack of a good spiritual and moral standard within the minds of the perpetrators generating a horrendously corrupt emotional state of mind that seeks sexual gratification while generating suffering and shame on another person.

FF

[Felix Florimon]

All this is just conjecture on your part. You know nothing about those people, particularly the young black men who gang raped the nursing student.