Woody Posted September 8, 2012 Posted September 8, 2012 Pacific Union Conference Approves Fourteen Women for Ordination 7 September 2012 | Jared Wright The Pacific Union Conference Executive Committee approved fourteen women and two men for ordination in conferences within the union on Wednesday. During a teleconference meeting, the union officers and several constituent presidents met at the union office while the remainder of the 48 members connected through the conference call. Committee members considered an agenda item titled simply "Ordinations." According to a Facebook post by union communications director Gerry Chudleigh, PUC president Ricardo Graham introduced the agenda item saying, "Our next item is the approval of requests for ordination. This will be a historic vote. Is there a motion that we approve these requests?" There was a motion. "Is there a second?" Graham asked. There was a second. "Is there any discussion?" According to Chudleigh, there was no discussion, only silence. "Well, if there is no discussion, we will go to the vote," Graham said. "All in favor say yes." [Loud affirmations] "Any opposed..." [silence] "Well, this was a historic vote. Thank you," Graham said. "Our next item of business..." Of the fourteen women candidates approved for ordination, ten came from Southeastern California Conference and four from Northern California Conference. From Northern California Conference: Marit Case, associate pastor at the Carmichael Seventh-day Adventist Church; Mary Maxson, associate pastor at the Paradise Seventh-day Adventist Church; Norma Osborn, associate pastor at the Pacific Union College Church; and Jessica Richmond, lead pastor at the Tracy Seventh-day Adventist Church.. From Southeastern California Conference: Marlene Ferreras, associate pastor at the Azure Hills Church; Raewyn Hankins, lead pastor at the Victorville Seventh-day Adventist Church; Genevieve Koh Isidro, associate pastor at the Loma Linda University Church; Andrea Trusty King, senior pastor at Imani Praise Fellowship; Jacqueline Lynch, associate pastor at the Chula Vista Seventh-day Adventist Church; Chris Oberg, senior pastor at the La Sierra University Church; Halcyon Westphal Wilson, pastor for Diverse Ministries at the La Sierra University Church; Maria Carmen Ibáñez, director of operations at Pine Springs Ranch; Audray Johnson, director of Children's Ministries for Southeastern California Conference; and Sandra Roberts, executive secretary for Southeastern California Conference. In addition, two men were approved: Cristian Iordan, associate pastor at the Campus Hills Church in Southeastern California Conference; and Alvin Maragh, associate pastor at the Central Filipino Adventist Church in Southern California Conference. Chudleigh reported that while the vote itself was straightforward and matter-of-fact, "tears and praise did come before the meeting was over," in reaction to the first official vote approving specific women candidates for ordination. Among the first ordination services will be one on October 6 at the Loma Linda University Church, during which Marlene Ferreras, Cristian Iordan, and Genevieve Koh Isidro will be ordained. Quote May we be one so that the world may be won. Christian from the cradle to the grave I believe in Hematology.
CoAspen Posted September 8, 2012 Posted September 8, 2012 Awesome!!! We know one of the women to be ordained, already a 'commissioned' pastor. Quote
Daryl Posted September 10, 2012 Posted September 10, 2012 Awesome??? How about rebellion!!! Quote In His Love, Mercy & Grace Daryl http://www.maritime-sda-online.com https://www.pugwashsdachurch.org/media?page=1&sort_by=Date&is_ascending=0&search=&tags=&presenter=
olger Posted September 10, 2012 Posted September 10, 2012 Forsooth! Quote "Please don't feed the drama queens.."
CoAspen Posted September 11, 2012 Posted September 11, 2012 We will have to disagree! I never see following God as 'rebellion'? Nor would I suggest that a person, in this case one that I know personally, is not being called of God! Quote
JoeMo Posted September 11, 2012 Posted September 11, 2012 CoAspen, <<LIKE>> You've seen my posts on "Why Is It?" Quote
Alchemy Posted September 16, 2012 Posted September 16, 2012 But, the PUC voted not to change their by-laws! How can they violate their own by-laws and vote this way? Grossly irrational. A terrible sin. Quote Luke 12:32 NKJV
olger Posted September 16, 2012 Posted September 16, 2012 A lawyer's response to the PUC kerfluffle: "At the time, to be honest with you, I thought that the session would end and wouldn't get to the second vote. I still can't figure out how they got to the second vote." `G Quote "Please don't feed the drama queens.."
Alchemy Posted September 17, 2012 Posted September 17, 2012 A lawyer's response to the PUC kerfluffle: "At the time, to be honest with you, I thought that the session would end and wouldn't get to the second vote. I still can't figure out how they got to the second vote." `G My point exactly! I can't figure out how they got to the second vote either. Quote Luke 12:32 NKJV
Daryl Posted September 20, 2012 Posted September 20, 2012 Even their Union President said the 2nd vote wasn't necessarily a win, but then they are still going ahead and approving the ordination of women contrary to both their own bylaws and the session policies of the GC. If that isn't rebellion, then what does constitute rebellion? Quote In His Love, Mercy & Grace Daryl http://www.maritime-sda-online.com https://www.pugwashsdachurch.org/media?page=1&sort_by=Date&is_ascending=0&search=&tags=&presenter=
Alchemy Posted September 20, 2012 Posted September 20, 2012 Even their Union President said the 2nd vote wasn't necessarily a win, but then they are still going ahead and approving the ordination of women contrary to both their own bylaws and the session policies of the GC. If that isn't rebellion, then what does constitute rebellion? Agreed. I have heard for a while that WOPE supporters were going to split from the church, but I am surprised at how they went about it. Open rebellion. Quote Luke 12:32 NKJV
olger Posted September 20, 2012 Posted September 20, 2012 I `gree !! Quote "Please don't feed the drama queens.."
Administrators Naomi Posted September 20, 2012 Administrators Posted September 20, 2012 It should prove interesing to see how the next hand is played...... Quote If your dreams are not big enough to scare you, they are not big enough for God
Alchemy Posted September 20, 2012 Posted September 20, 2012 It should prove interesing to see how the next hand is played...... I disagree. We shouldn't have this. This "issue" is a non-issue. An issue without a cause. This is ridiculous. The church splits and the shaking begins to heighten over this issue. I never would have thunk it. Quote Luke 12:32 NKJV
Administrators Naomi Posted September 20, 2012 Administrators Posted September 20, 2012 Agree or disagree: Issue or non-issue: Pro or Con ... anytime an action is put into play there will be a reaction. Quote If your dreams are not big enough to scare you, they are not big enough for God
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